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Sudo_Nym Pseudo Newbie
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Why? Given that I need Brawls against most decks, and given that I can't draw a copy of it when I need one with two in my deck, why would I cut one?One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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You don't "need" it against most decks, running 0 brawls was even a thing a thing before patron became a thing (and this was at mech mage's height!) except if the warrior was aiming for zoo. 2xBrawl only became a tournament ladder tech against specifically patron in the last 3 months or so.
Anywho, unless you're only playing against zoo and patron you only need one. I suppose its more annoying now since you would use to keep it against patron but dragon warrior might be even more popular right now so you probably don't zzzz.
Warrior control this late game heavy needs an emperor btw, true heart is good and all, unless you can get that third armor up in it's not really living up to its cost and emperor's effect is more immediate.
But yeah...I've been testing some warrior stuff recently and I think dragon warrior might just be better right now because they have 3 and 4 drops on curve. (Of note is that in aforementioned no brawl decks from half an year or so ago they sometimes ran double frothy double berserker as minions)...I would maybe drop a brawl for a harri or even a chow depending on climate, switch justicar for emperor, and I prefer ysera over alex when only running one big dragon, but this type of warrior is always going to struggle against midrangey minion based decks. (Zoo, paladin, druid, shaman).
I would actually go back to dragon warrior (I don't like alex champion so just run the good dragons + blackwing cards) since you have more minion control and straight face and straight control decks are rare right now as far as I can tell, which is what your deck mainly smashes.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Sudo_Nym Pseudo Newbie
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It's possible; Chillmaw is possibly just a better answer than Brawl anyway.
I would think Alex's champion would be really good in a dragon warrior deck for controlling the board early; 3-3 Charge seems really good. Going Alex's Champion-Blackwing Tech-Twilight Guardian-Blackwing Corrupter seems like a dream.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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Ellibereth Deus ex Machina
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In post 2262, Ellibereth wrote:do you have naxx
only up to 2
In post 2263, Ellibereth wrote:if you don't have two doom guards the arcane golem face zoo is probably better zzz
I've 2, but having 2 of those in your hand just feels really clunky.
In post 2264, Ellibereth wrote:basically all of your one of's are hella weird where you have 1 of a good card and 1 of a shitty one.
Which do you suggest I cut?
In post 2265, chamber wrote:why leper gnomes in that list?
Good point can't really think of a reason why. Think I'll replace with another Abusive and another Squire?
In post 2268, chamber wrote:Abusive Sargent seems way better at the very least.
In post 2269, Ellibereth wrote:well yeah he should run that instead of squire
I find Squire rlly helps against faster decks like Face Hunter who usually run a lot of 2/1s it trades 1 for 2 in these cases. But yeah I added abusives
I've made two more decks, one improving my previous one based on your suggestions, and the other some face warlock deck. Would love input on both.
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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In post 2271, Sudo_Nym wrote:So here's an updated decklist:
The biggest problem I'm having is getting board control early; in theory, I should be able to remove my opponent's threats, but in reality, I often just get flooded. It seems to be impossible to get Execute, War Axe, or Brawl before turn 10 for some weird reason.
This is a pretty standard list imo. You're bound to have bad matchups, certain aggro decks like Pally are said bad matchups, but you already have the good removals so its a matter of playing them right really. I personally don't think Chillmaw is THAT good in this kind of a Control deck since you only have like 1 other dragon, making Chillmaw a trash 7 drop 90% of the time. It ain't going to be consistent. If you go for it then you're probably making a new deck anyways, a Dragon Warrior deck, which i'm sure has potential and proven capability, but -shrug-. I used to run 2 brawls and haven't ever really been punished for doing so, people don't really expect it and its a good card for aggro matchups, which are still pretty common. I would drop an Acolyte of Pain (In a control deck, I have found 2 acolytes to be an overkill) for an Emperor Thaurissan, and a Bash (I don't actually think this card is going enoughf or a slot here, its role is filled by execute/shield slam shield block/etc) for either a Loatheb (If you're facing a lot of Rogues or Mages mainly) or a Harrison Jones (Very good against Rogue, Warrior, Hunter, and even Pally matchups).
If you want to drop a Brawl, replace it with a Baron Geddon if you have him. Baron is easily one of my favourite cards in Control Warrior tbh, and he'll fill a control, board clear sort of a role like that second brawl. I also have no real experience with the Justicar, I imagine it's actually a good card so I would definitely recommend to keep running it and seeing how it goes. Ellibereth also suggested replacing Alexstrasa with Ysera which I personally disagree with as a personal preference. Ysera is a slower card imo that doesn't fit the massive impact caused on play by the other fatties in the deck, and I think Ysera is much better in more midrange(y) decks like Paladin or Priest. Its up to you in the end, but I think Alex adds more kill pressure and an extra way to win. While Ysera can do this if it gives you 2-3 dream cards, it just feels slower for a control deck so -shrug-I swear I'm trying my best
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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In post 2289, chamber wrote:It does nothing proactive in a matchup where I'm most certainly the aggro.
A Blade Flurry makes it good if you were against an aggro pally.
Rogue (especially Oil Rogue) is a class that has these kinds of hands and draws, a deck with more emphasis on combos and huge, single power swing turns rather than stable board building and tempo plays. It's a different playstyle from most other classes that takes getting used to.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 2291, Venmar wrote:A Blade Flurry makes it good if you were against an aggro pally.
It's a great hand against an aggro deck. I was playing vs control warrior so the hand did literally nothing.Taking a break from the site.-
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In post 2294, animorpherv1 wrote:My god Warlock class is pure awful. Trying to get all the classes to level 10 right now.
What deck are you using? Warlock as a class is fairly strong I would say. Its hero power is the best in the game. And versatile too, there's like 4 different archetypes. (Handlock, Dmonlock, Zoo Dreadsteed).-
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Sudo_Nym Pseudo Newbie
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To be fair, Warlock is probably the hardest class for new players. The basic cards aren't very good, and the hero power takes some getting used to.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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popsofctown SheSurvivorShe
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Don't get all classes to level 10 on matchmaking or against bots. Challenge a friend and let them concede to you repeatedly until you get to level 10.
There's a hidden 100 gold quest for beating each bot and hard bot once each, though, I think. That's good. But definitely don't just take some of your starter cards to Play mode and play against an opponent whose MMR is based on the classes you have cards for, and keep going until you get to level 10, that sounds like the most painful thing I can imagine.Last edited by popsofctown on Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:25 am, edited 1 time in total."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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In post 2297, popsofctown wrote:Don't get all classes to level 10 on ladder or against bots. Challenge a friend and let them concede to you repeatedly until you get to level 10.
Isn't that against Terms of Service?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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popsofctown SheSurvivorShe
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No. The resource you're acquiring isn't tradeable, and you're not gaining access to cards that are for sale for $$ in the shop. I really doubt the Terms of Service has some clever line in it that would forbid me from conceding to you 20 times trying to pull off the Lightwarden-Lightwarden-Wild Pyro- Silence-Circle-Circle turn 2 kill while you happened to have less than level 10 experience for the class you were playing."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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