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[RadiantCowbells]

What reasoning? I was under the impression that I hadn't shared most of what I was thinking with the class.

Or were you just saying that because you thought KTK and the noob crew would read it and think it's sounds good?

[Shinobi]

What reasoning? I was under the impression that I hadn't shared most of what I was thinking with the class.

Or were you just saying that because you thought KTK and the noob crew would read it and think it's sounds good?

The reasoning that you would hopefully tell us about?
Or is that too much to ask?

[RadiantCowbells]

But how can my reasoning be not as good as you've seen it in the past if you haven't seen it?

You're jumping through all these hoops trying to justify your scumread on me and you're ignoring the fact that you contradict yourself.

[Shinobi]

The only bits of reasoning I actually remember from you are bits where you misrep'd my ISO.
I think that only happened once or twice.
Not like that's any better than having no reasoning at all but they exist.

Pedit: No I'm not.

[Kyubey The Kid]

I just want to say that I might have actually bought RC's current argument had he said it before he started getting obnoxiously unhelpful and calling arguments shit instead of providing insight of his own, like he's doing now. The strange thing here is that this seems like a lot of effort for proof of innocence coming from someone that had previously expressed his apathy about winning as town. THE GUY WANTED TO LYNCH HIMSELF FFS!!! Am I the only one who finds it weird that all of a sudden, when the pressure is on, he's suddenly being cooperative? From my POV, it would make more sense for him to just keep his previous attitude if he really didn't care about this game.

Either way, even if my prediction of him being scum ends up being false, then not only do we clear Catboi's innocence, but we got rid of the most rude/unhelpful player and we can all be pretty certain of Shinobi being scum depending on who gets killed at night. Lynching RC is a sure fire win/win no matter how you look at it.

[Kyubey The Kid]

But how can my reasoning be not as good as you've seen it in the past if you haven't seen it?

You're jumping through all these hoops trying to justify your scumread on me and you're ignoring the fact that you contradict yourself.

You're twisting Shinobi's words. Your reasoning would obviously not be as good as he says if you never bothered to explain your reasoning beyond the superficial.

[Scorpious]

I'm wondering if there is another scum right now sitting there thinking "Please STFU Kyubey.for the love of god please,just shut up..

What do you think of KTK,Shinobi?

[RadiantCowbells]

I know for a fact that there's another town sitting there thinking that.

[Shinobi]

I just want to say that I might have actually bought RC's current argument had he said it before he started getting obnoxiously unhelpful and calling arguments shit instead of providing insight of his own, like he's doing now. The strange thing here is that this seems like a lot of effort for proof of innocence coming from someone that had previously expressed his apathy about winning as town. THE GUY WANTED TO LYNCH HIMSELF FFS!!! Am I the only one who finds it weird that all of a sudden, when the pressure is on, he's suddenly being cooperative? From my POV, it would make more sense for him to just keep his previous attitude if he really didn't care about this game.

No, I don't really find that weird at all.

Either way, even if my prediction of him being scum ends up being false, then not only do we clear Catboi's innocence, but we got rid of the most rude/unhelpful player and we can all be pretty certain of Shinobi being scum depending on who gets killed at night. Lynching RC is a sure fire win/win no matter how you look at it.

He isn't really being rude/unhelpful anymore.

Pedit: I'm still inclined to think of KTK as town but it's hard for me to put my finger on why. I'll get back to you on that at a later date.

[Shinobi]

Okay, maybe he still is but I don't really think that's over the line either.

[Scorpious]

THE GUY WANTED TO LYNCH HIMSELF FFS!!! Am I the only one who finds it weird that all of a sudden,

No. I don't like it,and I don't think it helps scum hunt,but it's common,and not "weird" I've done it in frustration.When you feel like you're busting open your forehead on a brick wall,trying to convince people you are what you say you are..

[Shinobi]

Scorp, elaborate on why you think Jean is so towny?
I really don't think he is.

[Scorpious]

#94 looks like something total noob town would ask

#179 continues that. Not amazing questions,but they look like they are coming from a genuine spot.

They look like questions coming from someone new to the game. Not someone that is trying to fabricate things.

there isn't much to go on,but that's my reasoning.plus a little gut..

[Kyubey The Kid]

RC, now that you're obviously town and willing to cooperate with us, why don't you give us your side of the story here. Can you explain why you and Catboi are so sure of each other's innocence even though it's not obvious to a noob like me? It would certainly be very helpful to me if you did, and since you claim that I'm just a bad townie (which is in your opinion even more dangerous than a scum) then this should be a great opportunity to unify town side before night happens! I mean, shouldn't the optimal move at this stage be to get the noob to agree with you due to your experience? If you do this one thing then I'll fully retract any accusation I've made about you and will gladly be your bitch for the rest of the game. i.e. I'll vote for whatever you tell me to vote.

[Shinobi]

#94 looks like something total noob town would ask

#179 continues that. Not amazing questions,but they look like they are coming from a genuine spot.

They look like questions coming from someone new to the game. Not someone that is trying to fabricate things.

there isn't much to go on,but that's my reasoning.plus a little gut..

I don't really think that "seeming genuine" is enough.
VOTE: Jean

[Shinobi]

RC, I'm still expecting some sort of reads list from you.
I'm aware my current vote likely won't go through but I don't think Jean is as towny as everyone says he is.

[Scorpious]

Shinobi,I feel as if you were going to make that vote regardless of what I said.

@KTK, who said RC was "obviously town"?

[Kyubey The Kid]

He did.

[Shinobi]

Shinobi,I feel as if you were going to make that vote regardless of what I said.

@KTK, who said RC was "obviously town"?

I was kind of intending to, yes.
/shrug
I don't think he's as town as you're saying he is. I was thinking maybe I was missing something but it doesn't seem like it.

[Kyubey The Kid]

Thanks, so do you believe my reasoning is retarded/irrational or do you can your understand why I would think this way?

Scorpious you never answered me this question, which I think might help get my point across. Am I an idiot for believing the reasoning that I've given? Anyone else care to tell me why I shouldn't believe what I believe? I don't think the way I went about my thought process has any glaring holes. I'm obviously not saying it's perfect, but I'd really like it if someone could give me an explanation as to why it would seem wrong, because so far all I've been told is that I'm a newb for thinking the way I do. It's not very helpful to not try to set me on the right track.

[JeanDarc]

#94 looks like something total noob town would ask

#179 continues that. Not amazing questions,but they look like they are coming from a genuine spot.

They look like questions coming from someone new to the game. Not someone that is trying to fabricate things.

there isn't much to go on,but that's my reasoning.plus a little gut..

I don't really think that "seeming genuine" is enough.
VOTE: Jean

I feel like you are simply wishy-washy voting and fos'ing practically everyone who is voting against you/disagrees with you. I am keeping my vote on you until I get a different read from your future plays. Also, you don't really seem too confident or convicted about your vote on me.

[Shinobi]

#94 looks like something total noob town would ask

#179 continues that. Not amazing questions,but they look like they are coming from a genuine spot.

They look like questions coming from someone new to the game. Not someone that is trying to fabricate things.

there isn't much to go on,but that's my reasoning.plus a little gut..

I don't really think that "seeming genuine" is enough.
VOTE: Jean

I feel like you are simply wishy-washy voting and fos'ing practically everyone who is voting against you/disagrees with you. I am keeping my vote on you until I get a different read from your future plays. Also, you don't really seem too confident or convicted about your vote on me.

You mean I'm sorting the people who are voting me? Shock and surprise.
Your bit on wishy-washy voting seems somewhat arbitrary - where is that coming from?
I'd also like you to answer the questions I asked before.

[Ranmaru]

VOTE: RC

I'm not playing this. hammer me.

Then don't. Replacing RC with someone who actually will play out their win condition.

[Kyubey The Kid]

Yaaaaay!

[Ranmaru]

Votecount 1.7

Shinobi:

catboi, JeanDarc

Scorpious:

Lextrew, vijay2vasandani

Spiffeh
JeanDarc:

Shinobi

LexTrew
vijay2vasandani
Kyubey The Kid:

RadiantCowbells*

RadiantCowbells:

Spiffeh, Kyubey The Kid

catboi

Not Voting

:
Scorpious

*= Currently being replaced
**= V/la

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