Newbie 1646 - Mafiascum University Class 106 - OVER!

[Fugitive]

Jumping on a wagon makes sense when it's against scum.

Getting nervous already?

[eimim_]

Jumping on a wagon makes sense when it's against scum.

Getting nervous already?

Disturbed about the way you're jumping on this

[Jaack]

Jumping on a wagon makes sense when it's against scum.

Getting nervous already?

Disturbed about the way you're jumping on this

If you're so disturbed by it, why aren't you voting for Fugitive?

And what exactly is wrong with an early wagon?

[eimim_]

Jumping on a wagon makes sense when it's against scum.

Getting nervous already?

Disturbed about the way you're jumping on this

If you're so disturbed by it, why aren't you voting for Fugitive?

And what exactly is wrong with an early wagon?

You mean other than gleefully jumping on the first thing they can? It certainly raised my eyebrow. Not a definite scumtell, though, which is why I didn't vote

[Willowmeadow]

1) How often do you expect to post?
2) What and how much experience have you had playing mafia?
3) Do you prefer playing town or scum and why?

1) Daily, at least after school, sometimes probably also from school.
2) 1 completed game here and another where I had to replace out in addition to several games off site, including a few IRL games twice or thrice.
3) Town. Have not had much experience with playing scum, though, so I can't say for sure. My favourite role to play would be Jailkeeper.

[Willowmeadow]

Should have formatted that. Oh well.

[Fugitive]

Confirmed. Eimim knows I'm town because she's scum. Easiest first scum catch I've ever seen.

String her up, we can get to know each other day 2.

[Kadston]

1) I'll probably check the thread once a day and post if there is something on my mind.
2) I've played on other forums before but not this one.
3) Scum/Mafia, because I find the strategy involved with it more interesting.

I won't vote yet, but leaning towards eimim. Care to explain why we shouldn't vote for you?

[Jaack]

You mean other than gleefully jumping on the first thing they can? It certainly raised my eyebrow. Not a definite scumtell, though, which is why I didn't vote

Surely, even if its not a "definite scumtell" it would be a better reason to vote than RVS?

It looks to me like you're trying to cast doubt on one of your accusers (fugitive), without committing to anything.

Also, you didn't answer my other question: What is wrong with an early wagon?


@willow-Any thoughts on the game so far?

[vijay2vasandani]

Good catch Jaack

VOTE: eimim

Wow, finding the first scum was easy.

Jumping on a wagon already?

Jumping on a wagon makes sense when it's against scum.

Getting nervous already?

Disturbed about the way you're jumping on this

LOL scum harder pls.

[newbieinmafia]

1) How often do you expect to post?
2) What and how much experience have you had playing mafia?
3) Do you prefer playing town or scum and why?

1) I hope to post once a day.
2) Not much. I tried playing Town of Salem or Mafia Mystery (app) recently but they didn't help me much because the days and nights go by fast.
3) Town because I think I am really obvious as scum.

btw, do we have to lynch someone on day 1?

[Jaack]

btw, do we have to lynch someone on day 1?

We don't

have

to lynch someone, but no lynching would be a bad idea.

Assuming no power role shenanigans, we can mislynch 2 townies without losing. If we no lynch once, then we lose the extra lynch, along with all the extra information that lynching a player would give us. Basically, we would be starting Day 2 in the exact same situation, minus one townie.

What do you think about eimim right now?

[Zar]

Day 1, Votecount 1

eimim_ (3): vijay2vasandani, Jaack, Fugitive

Kadston (1): eimim_

Not Voting (5):

Kadston, newbieinmafia, willowmeadow, Wasted Space, Regfan

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch or 5 to no lynch.

Deadline

: Tuesday September 15, 2015 1:05 AM  New York Time. (GMT-5)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2015-09-15 01:05:00)

[Zar]

Stealing Kadston and Wasted Space from the Newbie queue to replace KTtheCreeper and TheMemeKing respectively, both of which failed to pick up their Newbie 1646 Role PMs.

I'll give Wasted Space chance until tomorrow morning to check in (9:00 AM EDT). Otherwise I'll search for a replacement.

[newbieinmafia]

btw, do we have to lynch someone on day 1?

We don't

have

to lynch someone, but no lynching would be a bad idea.

Assuming no power role shenanigans, we can mislynch 2 townies without losing. If we no lynch once, then we lose the extra lynch, along with all the extra information that lynching a player would give us. Basically, we would be starting Day 2 in the exact same situation, minus one townie.

What do you think about eimim right now?

Oh I see. Thanks!

About eimim, it's possible that she just forgot to vote (as stated in post #22) so I am not that suspicious of her yet.

After reading everything so far though, I find it weird about Fugitive's claim that finding the first scum was easy (#23). I mean we don't have much information to say it with a certainty as it sounds like to me. It could be Fugitive's play style so I don't know.

[Fugitive]

btw, do we have to lynch someone on day 1?

After reading everything so far though, I find it weird about Fugitive's claim that finding the first scum was easy (#23). I mean we don't have much information to say it with a certainty as it sounds like to me. It could be Fugitive's play style so I don't know.

LOL

FoS: newbieinmafia.

Newbies always use my playstyle as an excuse to throw suspicion at me. Plus it's another attempt to cautiously throw suspicion at me without committing to a vote.

Found the second scum. This game is too easy.

[Fugitive]

EBWOP: the quotes are fucked up by newbieinmafia said that thing.

[Fugitive]

EBWOP2: but*

sorry I'm not totally sober.

[Jaack]

About eimim, it's possible that she just forgot to vote (as stated in post #22) so I am not that suspicious of her yet.

After reading everything so far though, I find it weird about Fugitive's claim that finding the first scum was easy (#23). I mean we don't have much information to say it with a certainty as it sounds like to me. It could be Fugitive's play style so I don't know.

On eimim, while it could be possible she forgot, it is also possible she is lying. What do you think about her response to the pressure Fugitive and I have been putting on her?

On fugitive, do you find his certainty scummy or not?

And how do you suggest we gather more info in order to be more certain?

[eimim_]

Yeah, no. Fugitive is acting way too sure.
I want to wait until all players are in the game, but the more fugi posts the more suspicios I am of them.

[Fugitive]

HAHAHA THAT OMGUS

BEAUTIFUL

FLAILING ALREADY

[Willowmeadow]

@willow-Any thoughts on the game so far?

Quite a few thoughts, yeah. I'll post about them from school when I have a lunch break. That should be in 5 hours or less.

[Regfan]

I don't agree with Jaacks (And later Fugitives) reasoning behind voting Einim in Post 21 at all (He RVS'ed in his other game Newbie 1635 and can easily understand forgetting to get around to throwing a vote down when answering someone elses questions) but Jacks thought process behind it does read genuine.

That said don't like Einems reaction towards Fugitives vote in Post 24, reads as over-defensive and agree with Jaack in that Einems lack of vote back on Fugitive looks unnatural given his suspicion (His explanation being it being weak in Post 28 means nothing given it's stronger than the RVS vote already).

Dislike Willow popping in to answer the questions in Post 29 but not comment on anything else. Like that Jaack picked up on the same thing in Post 33, willing to wait until his promised content post and thoughts on the thread though since it's reading like he didn't have time to get to it earlier.

I don't have an issue with Newbies Post 39 whatsoever, find his stance their fairly understandable and it actually reads town despite not agreeing with it -- I can understand seeing Fugitive being read on Einem being too overconfident, it's not a scum-tell for him but I can see how someone might view it as one.

@Fugitive

- When you're sober let me know if you really buy your reasoning in Post 40.

@Einem -

You're going to have to run me through why you think it's more worthwhile to be voting someone you "RVS voted" over someone that you actually scum-read because that's not a concept that makes an ounce of sense to me. Also run me through your scum-read on Fugitive other than "He jumped on me and it looks scummy!" because there's several reasons that could be behind his vote a) Reaction-testing, b) Attempting to generate content, c) Genuinely having a scum-read on you and agreeing with Jack and you've not really considered any of these.

Feeling p confident that Jaack is town, also got a weaker town read on Fugitive (Though I do want him to answer my question above) and on Newbie. Not even remotely ready to have someone at L-1 when we have a slot that hasn't even had it's role PM picked up yet but consider my vote likely on Eineme at the moment.

@Regfan: What was the goal of these questions, particularly question 3?

Few different reasons, the largest being that I find it a more efficient ice-breaker to get the game going than randomly throwing votes around. It also gives me an idea of how much experience players have or what activity would be considered "normal" for them (and particularly the third question) gives me a little bit of information to use to help get reads as the game progresses, for instance if someone were to state that they find town particularly more enjoyable and they're noticeably demotivated and disinterested down the line there's a decent chance they're mafia. Also find scum often find it difficult to answer the third question though that's much harder to judge and explain but it comes down to the phrasing of it.

[Willowmeadow]

Confirmed. Eimim knows I'm town because she's scum. Easiest first scum catch I've ever seen.

String her up, we can get to know each other day 2.

This looks so RVS-ish to me, but the evidence afterwards looks quite solid. Damn, I don't know what to think of this.

About eimim, it's possible that she just forgot to vote (as stated in post #22) so I am not that suspicious of her yet.

Right. How about the stuff that happened afterwards? Try to analyze the game, not the RVS.

I want to wait until all players are in the game, but the more fugi posts the more suspicios I am of them.

I feel like you're trying to fit into a good guy position here after initially flailing around. For what are you waiting to get all the players into the game anyway?

[eimim_]

I don't agree with Jaacks (And later Fugitives) reasoning behind voting Einim in Post 21 at all (He RVS'ed in his other game Newbie 1635 and can easily understand forgetting to get around to throwing a vote down when answering someone elses questions) but Jacks thought process behind it does read genuine.

That said don't like Einems reaction towards Fugitives vote in Post 24, reads as over-defensive and agree with Jaack in that Einems lack of vote back on Fugitive looks unnatural given his suspicion (His explanation being it being weak in Post 28 means nothing given it's stronger than the RVS vote already).

Dislike Willow popping in to answer the questions in Post 29 but not comment on anything else. Like that Jaack picked up on the same thing in Post 33, willing to wait until his promised content post and thoughts on the thread though since it's reading like he didn't have time to get to it earlier.

I don't have an issue with Newbies Post 39 whatsoever, find his stance their fairly understandable and it actually reads town despite not agreeing with it -- I can understand seeing Fugitive being read on Einem being too overconfident, it's not a scum-tell for him but I can see how someone might view it as one.

@Fugitive

- When you're sober let me know if you really buy your reasoning in Post 40.

@Einem -

You're going to have to run me through why you think it's more worthwhile to be voting someone you "RVS voted" over someone that you actually scum-read because that's not a concept that makes an ounce of sense to me. Also run me through your scum-read on Fugitive other than "He jumped on me and it looks scummy!" because there's several reasons that could be behind his vote a) Reaction-testing, b) Attempting to generate content, c) Genuinely having a scum-read on you and agreeing with Jack and you've not really considered any of these.

Feeling p confident that Jaack is town, also got a weaker town read on Fugitive (Though I do want him to answer my question above) and on Newbie. Not even remotely ready to have someone at L-1 when we have a slot that hasn't even had it's role PM picked up yet but consider my vote likely on Eineme at the moment.

@Regfan: What was the goal of these questions, particularly question 3?

Few different reasons, the largest being that I find it a more efficient ice-breaker to get the game going than randomly throwing votes around. It also gives me an idea of how much experience players have or what activity would be considered "normal" for them (and particularly the third question) gives me a little bit of information to use to help get reads as the game progresses, for instance if someone were to state that they find town particularly more enjoyable and they're noticeably demotivated and disinterested down the line there's a decent chance they're mafia. Also find scum often find it difficult to answer the third question though that's much harder to judge and explain but it comes down to the phrasing of it.

I'm not suspicious of fugitive because they jumped on me, but because of how they did it. Jaack seemed genuine in his suspicion, but fugitive didn't. Fugitive jumped on the first thing they saw and very quickly advocated an immediate lych. Not town behavior. That coupled with an act of over confidence is just baffling to me. It makes no sense.

I wanted to wait to get a feel of all the players before casting a serious vote, because I don't want to miss anything potentially important by accidentally developing a tunnel on the first suspicious player.