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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:34 pm

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Okay, this will be the best post of the game. Guaranteed.

Here's how I see things.

N1: Mala would have to have either jailed scum, or jailed who scum tried to kill. assuming scum tried to kill you, that's fair, seeing as you more or less led the lynch on Nosferatu/Maxwell. also, it strains rational thought to believe scum would begin a no-kill gambit on N1 in a normal. even though they lost their encryptor (which I doubt is their only power role, seeing as we appear to have a JK, a rolecop, and a backup rolecop).

N2: Mala said she jailed BBT, who heavily suspected scorpious. she also pre-hinted that BBT would be jailed. i think it's likely that scorpious could have not caught that (as I didn't either). it is really likely Scorpious would have targeted BBT, as BBT was one of the largest proponents of his lynch. And as the last scum player alive after Shiro was lynched D2, he had to play survivalistically. Which he's been doing again, today, voting Mala (only way she'll die, because he can't kill her if she blocks him again, and it's a good bet she will/would if we don't/didn't lynch one of them) or voting me (the only other remote possibility, given Mala's "freaken hate" for me, and given AxleGreaser's pigheadedness (sorry, lol). So everything is consistent with Scorpious being scum and making all the choices he needs to, to survive.

N3: Mala said she jailed Scorpious. There was no kill. This is entirely consistent with Scorpious being scum and just not catching the "you're next BBT" soft by Mala. Scorpious as scum would probably try to kill Mala as a claimed JK. And by probably, I mean definitely.

So really, all signs point to Scorpious. As ridiculous as Mala is being, especially since she's supposed to KNOW she's a JK and there should be no doubt in her mind of other shenaniganery going down... again, it really strains the mind to think that scum got blocked on D1, and then was SO confident that they thought they could hang Mala out to dry, as well as everyone she blocked. I would think scum would keep trying to kill. I know I would. Again, just because it's POSSIBLE does not mean it is PROBABLE.

I assume Scorpious tried as a last ditch effort to kill Mala last night, and got blocked.

So really, we've been handed the game on a silver platter. And a lot of it's just blind luck on Mala's part. Haha

VOTE: Scorpious -- I'm final. This is the only vote I'll do today.

Nothing else makes sense.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:35 pm

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Everybody sheep, let's win, blah blah blah
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:40 pm

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@Singer


So ignoring actions and reads on people

is (
Zakk is scum
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JK + Role Cop + 8Vts
vs
BackupRCop Encrypter Goon(GF to RCop)

2 claimable town PRs vs 1.5 detectable scum roles + town JK

balanced in your view?
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For good merit (
scum is in the the VT like people
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is this
JK + Role Cop + BackupRCop 7Vts
vs
Encrypter Goon(GF to RCop) Goon(GF to RCop)

balanced?

look reasonable?
Given that only 1/3 roles are detectable by the Rcops. (bait and switch?)

How about (
a mala scum scenario
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is this
Role Cop + BackupRCop 8Vts
vs
Encrypter RoleBlocker(scum JK?) Goon(GF to RCop)

balanced?
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:41 pm

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In post 1409, Scorpious wrote:Mama is lying.

jailing me last night would have been pointless,it prevented nothing. Unless I'm just an idiot. Jailing a VT does not prevent NK's..

also lol at this post

what more of a scum claim do you want...
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:41 pm

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axle

stop making colors and vote scum

egads, man
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:42 pm

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unofficial vote count


(3) Scorpious — pistachi0n, Metal Sonic, zakk
(2) Malakittens — shaddowez, Scorpious
(2) zakk — Malakittens, AxleGreaser
(0) ika —
(0) Metal Sonic —
(0) shaddowez —
(0) AxleGreaser —
(0) notscience —
(0) pistachi0n —
(0) singersigner —

(2) (NOT VOTING) — ika, notscience
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:48 pm

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tl;dr of 1425:


D1:
singersigner led a Nosferatu/Maxwell lynch
N1:
scum tried to kill singer, Mala jailed singer
D2:
after much hemming and hawing, shiro was lynched
N2:
scum-Scorpious tried to kill BBT who suspected him, Mala jailed BBT
D3:
we lynched BBT, much to Scorpious' cackly evil froggie delight
N3:
scum-Scorpious tried to kill Mala, who was JK, but Mala jailed Scorpious

supertl;dr:


...lynch Scorpious and we win, homies
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:05 pm

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^^^^
That's impressive.. Too bad its false..
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:10 pm

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In post 1425, zakk wrote:it is really likely Scorpious would have targeted BBT,


Rubbish.
If scorp is scum and Goon, then if he kills, he kills Mala, who can catch him with an offensive JK. he also does it early while the chnaces of someone else being JK'd are highest.
If Scorp is scum and not goon he has double trouble, and needs all of Mala, Sonic and Zak dead before ther are not blue roles that can catch him.

TLDR: This is BS
In post 1431, zakk wrote:
N2: scum-Scorpious tried to kill BBT who suspected him, Mala jailed BBT

Killing Mala first was Scorps only sensible move.

Scum is No killing because they don't fear the RCop.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:10 pm

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In post 1429, zakk wrote:stop making colors and vote scum


stop doubt casting and address the actual issues.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:13 pm

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In post 1432, Scorpious wrote:^^^^
That's impressive.. Too bad its false..


If its impressive why would you not kill Mala N2 and instead leave it to a "last ditch" hail mary?

the scum plan is this one
In post 1375, zakk wrote:do you think it's even REMOTELY possible that scum is no-killing to make you look bad (hint: you look bad)
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:16 pm

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I'm lynching nobody but Scorpius

If he flips town, THEN AND ONLY THEN will I reconsider
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:25 pm

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Well,I'm assuming zakk is smart enough to realize that if I get lynched,then it(should be) is open season on him,so I'm comfortable with my mama vote..
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:26 pm

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In post 1435, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 1432, Scorpious wrote:^^^^
That's impressive.. Too bad its false..


If its impressive why would you not kill Mala N2 and instead leave it to a "last ditch" hail mary?

the scum plan is this one
In post 1375, zakk wrote:do you think it's even REMOTELY possible that scum is no-killing to make you look bad (hint: you look bad)


sarcasm dude..
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:35 pm

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Scorpious is more scummy in the vote counts than Mala or Zakk. If Scorpious flips town, Mala or Zakk is scum but I would go with Mala first.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:41 pm

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In post 1439, pistachi0n wrote:Scorpious is more scummy in the vote counts than [...] Zakk.


Zakk flopped off Max, having flopped on for no good reason and asked for claim.
Stated the thing was now mollified by the "reaction"
Flopped off when i applied sufficient pressure it looked like Max might survive.

Scorp Voted Shiro pretty much out of the gate D2.
If Zakk is scum and Scorp town.... then Scorps D1 looks pretty good.

Sure he wasnt voting one scum, he was voting the other.

please provide details for your statement.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:42 pm

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In post 1438, Scorpious wrote:sarcasm dude..

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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:51 pm

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In post 1418, singersigner wrote:I've kind of been reading but I feel like either Scorpious is scum, or scum are no-killing to frame him in order to avoid a confirmed town.

Notty what did you want to talk about?

I don't think Mala's scum, and I'm having a hard time believing Scorpious is, either...


pretty much this.

I'm kinda lost right now.

I don't think scorp-scum is that stupid to try and kill bbt or no kill with a claimed JK that was obviously targetting bbt

Like literally the only person in thsi game I think would be that ballsy as scum is me

But I'm not scum so
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:56 pm

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Vote Zakk for a brighter cleaner tomorrow.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:57 pm

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No.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:58 pm

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Lol I'm fine being lynched as long as town doesn't herp derp all the way to 3p MyLo and then lose
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:59 pm

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well vote him because he got scum PM.
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:00 pm

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if anyone is going to try to fucking lych mala make an argument on how an encryptor+goon+jk is ballanced to a rolecop+backup+VT

otherwise you can stop trying to fucking lynch her
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:03 pm

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as for setup, if one of the PR is scum its going to be the backup/rolecop itself.

imo the rolecop with backup exising would lead me to think one of them is scum

(im tired so i can setup spec later)
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:03 pm

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In post 1440, AxleGreaser wrote:please provide details for your statement.


He was not involved in lynching Maxwell or Shiro. Zakk didn't lynch Maxwell but did lynch Shiro. Both lynched BBT. Granted it's not much. I also picked up on associative tells between Maxwell and Scorp on day 1.

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