FF7 Mafia (Game Over)

[mastin2]

(Dunno why that quote got there.)

[Seiko x Naomi]

pie you can answer that too

not really, no. the issue I'm running into, though, is that hiplop's jump onto him weirded me out.

do you think radja's town?

fuck

even gif OR nacho for that matter

GIF yes, Nacho looked like what I'd expect Nacho to do as scum in multiball so IDK.

[Seiko x Naomi]

it must be really rare for me to hydra slip when someone gets confused when I requote the posts I made on the wrong account.

[The Antagonist]

pie, tell notty to get over his sphincteritis about hiplop and get back on radja.

[mastin2]

quote the post of his you think is town

Innocent 'til proven guilty?

(...I'm aware of the irony. Shut up.)

Quote the post of yours which you think is scum; there aren't any for me. I just don't see him as scum.

[The Antagonist]

not really, no. the issue I'm running into, though, is that hiplop's jump onto him weirded me out.

don't give a shit

[Seiko x Naomi]

that was me (pie) too. but I can follow along with it for now.

vote: Radja

[The Antagonist]

quote the post of his you think is town

Innocent 'til proven guilty?

(...I'm aware of the irony. Shut up.)

Quote the post of yours which you think is scum; there aren't any for me. I just don't see him as scum.

well let's see, there's the fact that literally every single post today shows absolutely no sign of any desire to solve the game

i could quote all of them

[Seiko x Naomi]

paranoid question.

why would Kaboose have died if it weren't for someone picking up on the fact he was an investigative role?

[Seiko x Naomi]

I don't make much of this bc it could just as easily be a huge coincidence, but I'd feel a lot better if someone has a coherent explanation for it.

[mastin2]

why would Kaboose have died if it weren't for someone picking up on the fact he was an investigative role?

He was my only 100% ally, supporting me 100% and me supporting him 100%. That tells you scum's motive right there.

They didn't need to know something was going on, they just knew something

was

going on, and they wanted it dead.

[mastin2]

Derp. Misspoke.

They didn't need to pick up on the specifics and know exactly what was going on, they just needed to know

something

was going on in order to kill Kaboose.

That I knew

exactly

what was going on is good reason for me to be town. (Because I had accounted for the possibility of Kaboose being scum, even.)

[The Antagonist]

mastin

thisis evndgame. this is waht imj best at. this is what i do.

i suck up theg ame until the very end.

let me ask ou something. and im serious sabout it. do you...think that im worth listening to? like...if you knew i was town woiudl you still not trust my read here?

im trying to see if this s about YOU or its about ME because im never suree and i always think its aboaiut me but im such a narcissus

[The Antagonist]

im no genius

and ive lost myself

the books are on the
table
and thes ecrets on the shefl

[Seiko x Naomi]

so Anti/ika: you both saw Inorganic Chemistry where mastin was scum and would have won the game except for the glorious turnaround at the last second. what do you think about her play here vs. her play there?

I don't really think it looks similar and this is part of what I meant when I said I would want to read her based on the reads she's pushing; from what I followed of that game I thought her push on Sonic Boom looked really off and I haven't picked up anything similar from the majority of her pushes this game. but, I admittedly can't read her for shit.

[Seiko x Naomi]

also a possibility I want to throw out there is that Jaqen *did* investigate mastin N3 and that it wasn't redirected, but that he got a went-nowhere result and just didn't believe it. this would be incredibly dumb, but if I'm being perfectly honest, it wouldn't remotely surprise me if this is what happened.

I am going to immensely regret so much as bringing this up. -.-

[Cerberus v666]

so Anti/ika: you both saw Inorganic Chemistry where mastin was scum and would have won the game except for the glorious turnaround at the last second. what do you think about her play here vs. her play there?

I don't really think it looks similar and this is part of what I meant when I said I would want to read her based on the reads she's pushing; from what I followed of that game I thought her push on Sonic Boom looked really off and I haven't picked up anything similar from the majority of her pushes this game. but, I admittedly can't read her for shit.

Hmm. I was there too you know. :p

[The Antagonist]

you realize that game is the primary reason for the scum read before th aid guilty?

[Seiko x Naomi]

this is going to sound absolutely batshit, but jaqen's initial claim that he had a guilty on mastin was on august 28 (4 days after daystart). jaqen got mislynched by mastin-scum in inorganic and confirmed in the dead PT that mastin was indeed scum on august 27. the first mention of the mastin guilty was the first post he made in this game after he posted in the dead PT for inorganic.

i am strongly considering the possibility that jaqen's "guilty" was done because of this - either entirely out of revenge or because he thought mastin was playing similarly here as she was there even if he didn't have an outright guilty on her. i absolutely hate to consider this and my apologies in advance to jaqen if it was a legitimate guilty and mastin is indeed scum here, but i feel like this whole thing is just a huge distraction.

[hiplop]

^ erhm i can buy mastin being town but that stuff seems sketchy to me? Id prefer to think jaqen was just mislead

but finally I can talk about that game! mastins play there is quite similar to my eyes. it was an outstanding game though so its hard to judge

[Cerberus v666]

And, to answer the question you didn't ask me, seiko, there are at least 2 events in thus game which perfectly parallel events in that game. I'll detail what I'm referencing when I get to a computer.

[Seiko x Naomi]

i wouldn't even consider this if jaqen didn't have a history of pulling insane shit as town (in my second game with him, he outed himself as pr and attempted to pull a slayer's gambit getting himself lynched on d1 when we woulda lynched scum otherwise)

but the two guilties i've seen recently in games i've been in have both been entirely faked, by town players, on town, so i'm paranoid that could be what's going on here. i'm interested in what parallels you're seeing to mastin's play in that game, though.

[hiplop]

ill write out some stuff tomorrow, its way too late here! :\

[mastin2]

so Anti/ika: you both saw Inorganic Chemistry where mastin was scum and would have won the game except for the glorious turnaround at the last second. what do you think about her play here vs. her play there?

Speaking of which: the reason why I originally thought Jaqen was bullshitting?

He died, and went to the dead thread of Inorganic Chemistry PRIOR to claiming the guilty...by a VERY SMALL MARGIN. As in, my thought, quite literally, was that Jaqen went to the dead thread there, saw I was scum, and decided that he couldn't let his read on me get away, thus, instead of simply saying I was scum, he claimed a result of me being scum. That's what I thought at the time, anyway. (I later realized the result was real, and he'd been redirected.)

I'll post the timestamps later. (Watching animez right now.) Incidentally, this is also the reason hiplop was an earlygame townread of mine: he saw my scumplay there, and my play here has some similarities, but I also told him that he's wrong because he didn't see the scumtopic. I also think Cerb was influenced by being dead, too, which is why I said in the mafia thread, "The INSTANT this game ends, it's gonna haunt me". (Anti can confirm.)

let me ask ou something. and im serious sabout it. do you...think that im worth listening to? like...if you knew i was town woiudl you still not trust my read here?

Frankly you're the only reason Radja isn't conftown to me.

But you ALSO see ProHawk as scum, and I want to work with THAT.

[mastin2]

this is going to sound absolutely batshit, but jaqen's initial claim that he had a guilty on mastin was on august 28 (4 days after daystart). jaqen got mislynched by mastin-scum in inorganic and confirmed in the dead PT that mastin was indeed scum on august 27. the first mention of the mastin guilty was the first post he made in this game after he posted in the dead PT for inorganic.

How the HELL did you beat me to MY OWN DAMN POINT that I've been WAITING FOR HALF A MONTH TO SAY?!?