Open 606: Near-Vanilla 40k TOWN WINS

[Yimmy]

You are a softclaimed PR, you haven't actually claimed, but keep saying you have claimed, but you actually haven't!

VOTE: vamp

Pretty sure that Vamp AND RM are scum together. the way those votes were spread out there's scum spread between the two wagons imo. That's why it was so difficult to get a lynch.

I wish the VC wasn't wiped out, but I remember Ika being off the wagons and can't remember who else. :\

This doesn't make sense. We weren't going to selfvote as town so our votes are irrelevant and 1 scum can't be spread across wagons.

I can't say I like the use of we...
Sorry, I've had a friend over for the past 2 days. I won't be able to use a computer till like 5 tomorrow

[Malakittens]

also random, vamp didn't vote you, which also didn't help matters much when we had four people off not voting, {two on different wagons and two not voting at all}. Spreading out the lynch like it happened could have easily been done by scum to save you both. Trust me I have done it once or twice as scum esp to avoid a lynch on myself and my partner in a game.

Yimmy you actually need to do things next time you have your computer kay? I really rather not lose the game because town is apathetic af.

[TheWorst]

Have a fever right now. Gonna shotgun some thoughts, I'll be out of commission for a bit.

Anxiety

has terrible logic, nothing new there. Doesn't even bother looking at my interactions or anything. Doesn't admit that he's wrong. etcetc.
At least

Duppin

can admit he's wrong, I can respect that.
Lynching

Hermit

is a bad idea. I know you hate WIFOM, but it's something we have to deal with. Also that's awful that he didn't even get a night action out. How do you do that?
Thanks

Huntress

for the VC
Tempted to lynch

Random

, his posts lately have been almost robotic. And he didn't answer my question on post 676.

Firebringer

did a whole lot of nothing in response to my vote. I still don't understand why you would switch from Random to Vampirate. Could you at least give me your reads on the both of them?
Not too convinced at

Vampirate

, besides my initial gut read. Looked through his ISO, did find something interesting however

Town reads in no towny order

Titus

(literally the top townread, D1 btw)

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The evil empire of scum

Vedith

A Simple Plan

That's something interesting.

1. Imo there is probably 1, possibly 2 scum among

Hermit

Vamp

4nxi3ty

ASP
Vedith
Titus

Hold on a minute, is that a scumslip? Am I insane? Am I going crazy? Why would your put your own name in that list?
The more I read Vampirate's ISO... The more things stick out.

You know what, screw it. This was gonna be a relaxing post because the fever and all, but fuck it. Now it's something.
UNVOTE: Firebringer
VOTE: Vampirate
This, combined with the lack of "scumhunting" D2 after the lynch and kill (also immediately said that scum killed Titus to place suspicions on Anxiety and co, not true most likely, as the first post of D2), and the fact that he really felt the need to compensate for his D2 lurking as the first post of D3... (and the fact that he almost got lynched)
Ok I'm fine with this lynch now. I feel dumb now, however no one else really presented a case on him... Ok I'm wrong, I reread and

Huntress

noticed the exact same thing. And they both discussed it already. WELP. Late to the party I suppose.

@Mod

VC pls? at 700?

[Firebringer]

You put Vampirate at L-1.
Role claim now Vampirate.

Ika hold off on hammer for a bit...

[TheWorst]

I did? This is why I need VC.

UNVOTE: Vampirate

No Ika hammer this time.

[ika]

........

[ika]

WE HAVE 2 FUCKING PORTECITVE FUCKING ROLES IN HRERE OF COURSE IM NOT FUCKING HAMMEINR BEFORE A FUCKIGN CLAIM. HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK I FUCKING AM. MY GOD

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Do not L-1 claim until near the end of the deadline.

Just trying to figure out whether scum is this bad. Whatever the case, stop rolefishing.

[Firebringer]

Do not L-1 claim until near the end of the deadline.

Just trying to figure out whether scum is this bad. Whatever the case, stop rolefishing.

Says the person who keeps teasing their role for stupid WIFOM?
That aint much.

And I will role fish, cause thats how I roll.

[Randomnamechange]

Sorry @theworst missed the question.
I think in the context of yesterday a lynch would have been good but it is situational.

[Malakittens]

Oh Ika ika ika.

[ika]

Oh Ika ika ika.

you got 20 mins

[Vampirate]

Going to be Phantom Paining for the rest of today, while I understand people's suspicion on me considering how much time is left I see no need to rush my lynch.

If i'm scum than do what you want.

If i'm town than it's better to try and get something more substantive out of me if i'm to be lynched.

It's true, Day 2 left my reads as bleh, but i'll see what I can get out of the game to get town something to go on, even after my death.

It'll have to wait for another day though.

Phantom Pain.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Don't claim vampirate. It only helps scum this early into the game.

[Firebringer]

Don't claim vampirate. It only helps scum this early into the game.

So claiming a PR doesn't help scum, but claiming a specific role does?

Wow, I had no idea. Next time I will just claim POWER ROLE anytime someone asks, because you know CLAIMING A SPECIFIC ROLE IS HELPING SCUM.

[ika]

Don't claim vampirate. It only helps scum this early into the game.

So claiming a PR doesn't help scum, but claiming a specific role does?

Wow, I had no idea. Next time I will just claim POWER ROLE anytime someone asks, because you know CLAIMING A SPECIFIC ROLE IS HELPING SCUM.

dont worry hes just a scumbutt whos coaching his scum buddy. its already day 3

[Yimmy]

I was one of the players involved in the whole Titus/4nxi3ty debacle. From an outside perspective, obviously there would be a chance I would be scum. Why is it scummy to point out that yes, from another person's eyes i'm not guaranteed town.

What does this have do do with anything?

VOTE: Vampirate
Yeah, that post seemed prepared for day start Vamp.

I don't really see the problem with that?

lol I am still laughing at TheWorst vote on me.
Okay, like honestly.

That case is stupid. I am the reason that lynch didn't happen? Ummm no.
TheWorst you sound like someone who wanted Random lynched more than Vampirate and you EVEN said that you weren't liking that train.

You looking mighty hypocritical dude.

You seem to enjoy completely twisting words and exaggerating what people say way out of proportion!

@Anxiety

Ok, that's something. I'd like to see you explain how I'm scumbuddies with Randomidget then. Go through my ISO.

This is NOT a good defense.

Votes on me are bad, end of story.

Vote Vampirate. For a better future.
Lynch me tomorrow if I am wrong.

oh ok he said hes town better just jump off his wagon and leave
Also the "lynch me if im wrong"

You are a softclaimed PR, you haven't actually claimed, but keep saying you have claimed, but you actually haven't!

VOTE: vamp

Pretty sure that Vamp AND RM are scum together. the way those votes were spread out there's scum spread between the two wagons imo. That's why it was so difficult to get a lynch.

I wish the VC wasn't wiped out, but I remember Ika being off the wagons and can't remember who else. :\

This doesn't make sense. We weren't going to selfvote as town so our votes are irrelevant and 1 scum can't be spread across wagons.

A: You could've voted for the other wagon and B: there's 3 scum

@Duppin

Yes, someone please explain to me why I

need

to claim.

As long as I am not at L-1, I see no reason for me to out which of the two known power roles I am.

Let's see... You can't be CC'ed with a softclaim, And I don't think it would hurt town at all. A: You're doctor. In this case you're sorta useless, but there's still the wifom for the mafia on whether or not the jailkeeper will just jail you. B: You are Jailkeeper: You will (or at least should) be protected by the doc. I don;t see why you are so insistent on not claiming if you're not scum.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

NO!

Stop wall posting!

[4nxi3ty]

lol that's kinda a small wall as they go

and still better than the alternative of nothin happening
which this game tends to fall into

btw still not here yet

[Randomnamechange]

@yimmy I did vote the other wagon.

[Firebringer]

Yimmy is just horrible useless town, everyone ignore him.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Wow, I had no idea. Next time I will just claim POWER ROLE anytime someone asks, because you know CLAIMING A SPECIFIC ROLE IS HELPING SCUM.

Duppin said it earlier, but I could just be a vanilla townie soaking up a night kill. I could just be using that as an excuse to never be lynched.

That isn't the case though, but WIFOM keeps people paranoid and afraid to act. My continued existence relies on the other power role not being discovered.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

VOTE: Yimmy

[4nxi3ty]

Gonna restate some things

Worst wasting his vote on enigma pretty much the whole d1 to jump on ASP at the end still feels sketch as fuck
And I've changed my mind: I don't think that feeling can be simply explained away by "I made a promise to stick with RVS vote"

re: complaining about Titus nightkill and the nolynch: difference between town and scum is that town doesn't need to say they are frustrated, they just are, while scum want to say their frustrated to look town. Worst comments read like scum who wants to appear frustrated.

Looking through her ISO, Titus was absolutely sure at one point that Vedith, Anxiety, and Hermit were a scumteam. I didn't and don't agree with that, it's something to keep in mind though. For the record, she

was

right about ASP being town, which gives her some credibility; albeit it was solely based on the wagon.

This is such a Follow Titus's Reads Folks
"

I don't agree with her

but Look She Was RIGHT about ASP, And she was ABSOLUTELY sure about this scumteam."

D2 it really feels like Worst is taking some wishywashy stances on firebringer, yimmy, and randomidget. There's like these little caveats he adds to his reads, kinda like he is staying on the fence cause it's easier to hop to either side. I can pull up examples if someone wants me to.

Also in general Worst's post have a calculating vibe that's about making sure to say the "right things"

Hold on a minute, is that a scumslip? Am I insane? Am I going crazy? Why would your put your own name in that list?
The more I read Vampirate's ISO... The more things stick out.

sure that's totally how scumslips work; scum "accidentally/intentionally" put their name in a clearcut scumpool cause their feeling guilty when crafting their post. Your laying it on thick. Are you that desperate for a Vamp lynch?

[4nxi3ty]

VOTE: duppin
Will explain when not on a train.

As for other reads, I null read people screwing around (fire, Constantine, ika)
Yimmy null-scum, the initial wagonning was poor but their refusal to do anything doesn't seem town to me.
TheWorst - null-scum but I can't remember why.
Vampirate is null, will iso them but don't see the hate.

I would choose firebringer over vampirate, but that seems unlikely so
UNVOTE:
VOTE: vampirate.

VOTE: vampirate

yeah the progression of your scumreads is completely natural and doesn't demand an explanation at all <.<