Tarot uPick II - GAME OVER

Kuroko Network · Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:45 am

And Nacho, I'm only saying this once so pay the fuck attention: you're doing the exact same fucking thing you're telling me I'm doing. You're assuming your methodology for reading notsci is the end-all-be-all, and that I must be scum for reading him in a way that you think doesn't make sense and that you disagree with.

The way you're going about this is absolutely fucking awful and I have no idea what I can do to get you to see as much.

Aneninen · Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:47 am

Thid Kuroko wagon seems to be bad. Or at least, their recent posts sounded like a very annoyed townie in my mind.

Kuroko Network · Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:49 am

In post 722, Tammy wrote:What about swagtown where he just kinda soft pushed me and put out feelers though?

That was talking about Wisdom not notsci.

Have you seen much of Wisdom's town game? If so, do you think his play here is more reminiscent of that or, for instance, his play in Capcom game which iirc was fairly lacking in strong pushes from his half of the hydra for a lot of the game?

Kuroko Network · Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:06 am

In post 747, Wisdom wrote:I was passive and reactive there? Check out how I forced a lurker lynch D1

This is actually blatantly false.

Wisdom didn't do anything to push the Jeanne wagon in Pokemon. In the first place, I was the one who started the wagon. But outside of that, look at this votecount from this game (875).

Subject: Pokémon Generation II uPick — Game Over

Spoiler:

Now take a look at Wisdom's ISO

He hardly did anything at all to push that wagon up until the point where he voted him. There were a few posts where he mentioned Jeanne was probably newb-scum, but that's it. It was just passing mentions; he did fuck all to actually force it through.

When he *did* vote Jeanne (892), it was entirely in response to someone else's point and it was L-1. So, no, you didn't "force" a lurker lynch, you sat there while town ran around lynching a lurker until you found a compelling-looking point that you could sheep.

So, either you're misrep'ing info or you're not getting what our point here actually is.

Everyone who was in Pokemon should tell me what they think about this.

Perpetual Nonsense · Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:13 am

WE have no method for reading notscience and wisdom. Well, perhaps WE do but said methods are heavily flawed

Fluff Central · Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:15 am

Nacho, I'm not sure this actually means anything but pie has scumread/tried to lynch me the last two times she was scum vs me.

Perpetual Nonsense · Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:22 am

This supporty head ain't never seen Pie as dirty badass scum before

Aj The Epic · Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:23 am

Aren't these recent posts by Echo though?

Kamigami · Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:23 am

What's your opinion of AJ, wisdom?

Fluff Central · Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:26 am

871 after is pie.

Perpetual Nonsense · Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:28 am

Hmm.
Kagami has always read this supporty head as sneaky cheeky scum

Kamigami · Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:30 am

What?

Perpetual Nonsense · Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:32 am

Why is OUR fluff not being scumread by YOU.

Only YOU can prevent forest fires <3

Fluff Central · Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:33 am

Also, there's currently a hood with all members of a certain symbol.

The hood does not tell us who is in it, only warns of potential eavesdroppers.

The reason I am bringing this forwardi s I remember cabd saying that scum could have superjuiced roles depending on our symbols, and this very much feels like a way for scum to find out said symbols, and I'm not sure the best way to approach this.

Something to note: It opened sometime during the day. It wasn't open in pregame and didn't open automatically on gamestart.

Kuroko Network · Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:34 am

In post 791, Idiocy wrote:Funny you are still arguing this like its a big deal but didn't awnser my question.

I think stuff like this is a particularly annoying (and hazardous when he's wrong) element of Echo's play style. I don't agree with his scum read on you nor do I agree with the way he went about it, but I'm willing to talk if you want to ask me anything.

Fluff Central · Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:35 am

Kagami I want you and fakegod both to weigh in on this, by the way.

Perpetual Nonsense · Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:36 am

WE don't remember when, but D1 already people mentioned PTs. WE assumed that meant hydra PTs, no?

Kamigami · Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:37 am

In post 887, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Why is OUR fluff not being scumread by YOU.

Only YOU can prevent forest fires <3

I've played a lot of games since tarot I.

Kamigami · Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:38 am

In post 890, Fluff Central wrote:Kagami I want you and fakegod both to weigh in on this, by the way.

I see what you said, but I'm not sure what aspect you want me to weigh in on. The cabd part?

Idiocy · Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:39 am

In post 889, Kuroko Network wrote:
In post 791, Idiocy wrote:Funny you are still arguing this like its a big deal but didn't awnser my question.

I think stuff like this is a particularly annoying (and hazardous when he's wrong) element of Echo's play style. I don't agree with his scum read on you nor do I agree with the way he went about it, but I'm willing to talk if you want to ask me anything.

Okay, but my brain is a little checked out so if I sound rambling you know why.

Can you tell me a bit more about Echo's play style as scum vs town?
Is he usually making a big deal about nothing typically or tend to push weak points?

Perpetual Nonsense · Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:39 am

Corpse Bride, I.

MS sitcom upick

Off top of This supporty head's noggin

Fluff Central · Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:41 am

In post 893, Kamigami wrote:
In post 890, Fluff Central wrote:Kagami I want you and fakegod both to weigh in on this, by the way.

I see what you said, but I'm not sure what aspect you want me to weigh in on. The cabd part?

Do you think what I am saying is a valid conclusion?

Alignment of the neighborizer? It reminds me distinctly of tales (which I guess means I need cabd and syry's thoughts too) but I'm not sure the best way for future neighborized people to handle it is- because odds are, posting in it outs what they are but if they don't then it gets confusing come massclaim.

Idiocy · Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:43 am

Just an FYI this was the post that was driving me nuts when I read it the first time:

In post 239, Kuroko Network wrote:
vote: Fluff Central

I don't like the attempt at discrediting town reads on Kamikagami because he outed role information in his previous scum game, for a few reasons. The only reason he even played that way as scum was because he decided to go balls out yolo and do something insane just for the sake of doing something insane. Kamikagami's is also fundamentally different from his play in that game in that her information serves to clear people whereas his didn't, which is more likely to come from town than scum as scum usually don't go searching for ways people can potentially be cleared. I don't believe he'd think what Kamikagami did was the same thing he did in that game, and I don't believe he'd Kamikagami, or anyone else for that matter, would do the same thing he did in that game in any other game.

I don't like him spec'ing a lyncher in the game when this is a upick and upicks are plain town vs. scum almost 100% of the time.

I haven't minded Tammy or PN's posts so far.

Maybe it is the way it's formatted, maybe it's my crazy brain being detached when I start to read things, but how hard you attacked Fluff for that reason just seemed a bit over the top.
What is your read on the spot currently?

In post 392, Kuroko Network wrote:There's a reason why it's spoilered. I don't like people reading my private messages.

Also why is Echo think a spoiled message shouldn't be read, or why scum would bother asking him about it?
Those things read as very much being knit picky about pretty weak stuff.

Perpetual Nonsense · Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:44 am

From OUR past XP, FakeGod's professional games always had neighborhoods almost always.

Ffery's runecast game also had a Nacho-d3x neighborhood

Fluff Central · Post Post #899 (ISO) » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:44 am

Essentially, I want to figure out how to limit the amount of information scum can gain by this.

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