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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:29 pm

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In post 824, T-Bone wrote:
In post 821, FakeGod wrote:Spellthief isn't a bad pick per se, but it's has a pretty high skill floor iirc

Well if you aren't facing anyone with magic, pretty useless. It doesn't get a lot of spellslots to act on it's own.

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I take it that you haven't played as a spellthief before.

By far the biggest advantage of spellthieves is granting a second outlet for your party's primary mage, by stealing his spells prior to combat.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:31 pm

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I haven't played it. Never thought of that.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:39 pm

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Yeah....

Spellthieves don't actually get to steal spells from NPCs that much, unfortunately.

It's too unreliable and too risky.

Your opening round is much more effective if you let your primary mage become a doublecaster, instead of trying to steal a spell.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:38 pm

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In post 818, T-Bone wrote:That worked out so well the first time heh...



It will be different this time.

Also I won't be beguiler. Too much focus on save or lose. Though silence does look incredibly nice. Conjurer is probably what I'll be. (Most spells will be from conjuration and transmutation)
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:03 pm

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TBone might steal your spells Who

for greater cause etc
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:29 pm

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I'm not a Spellthief, I'm a Daggerspell
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:34 pm

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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:40 pm

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You're lame.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:48 pm

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tbone, why daggerspell shaper? I'm curious

it seems like you're falling behind 2 levels in casting and losing some hp for like 2d6 sneak attack and some skill points

I dunno if that's a good trade to make

druid spells are nice
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:50 pm

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Because it looked fun? I'm not one to optimize.
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:54 pm

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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:16 pm

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In post 829, FakeGod wrote:TBone might steal your spells Who

for greater cause etc

If he's doing that I'll be a sorcerer. But he appears to not be doing that so Wizard it is.

Also, I have a question about the alternate class feature of Conjurers. If I get to teleport as an immediate action does that mean I can just freely avoid an attack int modifier times/day? That seems... nice.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:33 pm

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Jaunt lets you interrupt and reposition, but the person who was interrupted isn't forced to follow through the interrupted action since your reposition technically takes place before he makes his action.

which means it does not let you auto-dodge attacks/spells, but you can do some clever things.

for example of a player trying to abuse jaunt, if someone charges you, you can't just say "I jaunt 10ft to the right" and watch him charge into an empty space. Instead, he'll get to take back the charge and do something else, like maybe charge to your new position.

an example of better usage of jaunt might be to blink behind a nearby wall when you see someone try to charge you/cast a spell at you, and force him to do something else.
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:29 pm

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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:54 pm

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I was looking at Knight, pretty cool. Though Mounted Combat might be tough when we dungeon crawl in tight corridors all the time.
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:56 pm

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Also you seem to have no armor lol.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:01 pm

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Yeah, I'm dropping the Mounted Combat stuff since we dungeon crawl so much. Fakegod wouldn't let me trade it in for anything. So I decided to go Isabella Delacroix, 'Slayer of Mages, Defender of Squishies'.

I can't afford heavy armor without party funds. I don't know how much we have, so I left it blank.
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:02 pm

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You cannot drop an ability score below 3.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:03 pm

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Mageslayer I love it (though I think a Mageslayer class actually exists).

I didn't know if Mounted Combat was a class feature or a feat you chose because Knights ride horses or something so I wanted to make sure.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:04 pm

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Majority of combat for campaign 3 were in open though, not in dungeons.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:28 pm

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I could always ride the Giant Eagle, but I'd hate to do something reckless and get it killed.
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:41 pm

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In post 843, T-Bone wrote:though I think a Mageslayer class actually exists

Is it Occult Slayer from Complete Warrior?
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:46 pm

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Would not be so bad if you were a gnome on a riding dog, ehe.
iirc mounted combat in 3.5 wasn't stellar.
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:57 pm

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In post 837, FakeGod wrote:Jaunt lets you interrupt and reposition, but the person who was interrupted isn't forced to follow through the interrupted action since your reposition technically takes place before he makes his action.

which means it does not let you auto-dodge attacks/spells, but you can do some clever things.

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an example of better usage of jaunt might be to blink behind a nearby wall when you see someone try to charge you/cast a spell at you, and force him to do something else.

That makes sense. Still definitely worth it though.

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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:10 am

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oh god, high combat stats and charisma and dump stat of wisdom

we are going to have to save your ass just ALL THE TIME
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