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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:35 am

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In post 624, Gimlear wrote:One thing I don't quite understand: how did nacho know that Bella was targeted by the JK? I get that Nacho targeted Bella as doc, but how did he know she was also targeted by JK?

Nacho did not target Bella.
Also, it is a reasonable presumption based off Dave's entrance to this game day if you weren't thinking that he was the commuter-type JKer, which I did, which is why I was confused that Nacho thought he knew the target. But it's a quite reasonable deduction presuming the newbie-type JKer. Go read Dave's iso.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:18 am

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But saying "I know exactly who" is still suspiciously confident.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:55 pm

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I rekon the set up is

pist-rolecop
rad-cop
dave-jailkeeper

nacho-liar

A rolecop,cop,jailkeeper,doctor is just to fucking power of a set up even with a godfather. But a jailkeeper,cop,rolecop makes much more sense.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:01 pm

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Hi, I've been prodded. I don't have much to add, to what has already been said. I'm terrible at set-up spec and I believe the decision has already been made to lynch me anyway. I'm fine with that decision. This has come down to a matter of game breaking by set-up. Stuff I'm not good at anyway.

BTW-Those prods can be nicer, geez.

How about a vc mod?
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:14 pm

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In post 617, Thor665 wrote:Okay.

@Nacho - if we tag scum today do you agree to protect Dave above all others?
Since, at that point, he's better than a rolecop even for GF finding.

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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:57 pm

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I'll be around later, most likely! Busy weekend!
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:12 pm

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VOTE: SilverWolf I don't see a town player not defending herself at all if she has a valid cc
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:25 am

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I'm happy to be role-copped tonight, if that makes sense. It seems like it would clear up some confusion. The set-up spec is never my strong point, but Silver seems to have given up. :S
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:45 am

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In post 628, SilverWolf wrote:
I believe the decision has already been made to lynch me anyway. I'm fine with that decision.


Silver, is this a soft scum claim?
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:21 am

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In post 633, Gimlear wrote:
In post 628, SilverWolf wrote:
I believe the decision has already been made to lynch me anyway. I'm fine with that decision.


Silver, is this a soft scum claim?

No, and I'm not giving up. Sorry if it seems that way. I agree with the plan put forward and don't really have much more to add to it. This is a win regardless of my lynch or not.

event-that's like the third time in a row you've voted for me, I think once is enough to make your point
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:14 am

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In post 626, pistachi0n wrote:But saying "I know exactly who" is still suspiciously confident.

Have you ever played with Nacho before - he claims meta awarness of loads of people, if that's not balls crazy confidence I don't know what is.

In post 627, Garmr wrote:I rekon the set up is

pist-rolecop
rad-cop
dave-jailkeeper

nacho-liar

A rolecop,cop,jailkeeper,doctor is just to Smurfing power of a set up even with a godfather. But a jailkeeper,cop,rolecop makes much more sense.

So you are saying Silver/Nacho obv. scum then?

Okay, that's a potential fear and theory. I do agree with you that we have there three fairly potent town roles and an additional solid town role.

Let's see though - if your theory is correct - that means scum decided to shoot Bella.
Does that seem likely after yesterday?

Scum shooting me seems fairly likely to me. (though I am full of myself, so if you want to argue against this - proceed)
Scum being Bella seems possible.
Scum shooting him seems unlikely. (Bella - feel free to argue against this)

Silverwolf's rolecop claim on Dave is painfully obv. - there is no doubt in my mind that Dave is a jailkeeper.
Nacho's claim seems...odd, but works within the concept of the dayplay I saw. It seems like an unlikely scum gambit to go with when there are that many other claimed PRs though. (Garmr - if you can describe Nacho's theory way of winning in your mind - that would be swell).
Odds assuredly favor both Silver and Pistach not being both town.
Radja's claim also seems unlikely to come from scum, I'll admit.

Smart money play seems to be lynch one of the rolecops.
If we get a scum flip - JKer gets the Doc protection.
Cop investigates someone.
Rolecop checks Bella (or someone?).
Jailkeeper jails someone (Bella?).

Eh, probably just makes sense to jail someone else and rolecop Bella. That way scum have to kill an investigative or Nacho - and with a kill whomever the jailkeeper is on is basically confirmed town. So, no matter what, we walk out of that day with two additional confirmed town.

If we lynch a town rolecop what would be the best play?

Jailkeeper jails someone.
Doc on Cop.
Cop on someone.

That seems to make the most sense.

I think a big question becomes the chance of scum shooting Bella vs. Thor. Scum either shot one of us, or Bella is scum (or, maybe, paranoia theory - Nacho is fakeclaim Doc from scum faction who no killed for hijinks to out PRs...wear your aluminum hats as needed).

I'm mildly torn on the rolecop question.
Pistach, functionally, claimed under pressure.
There is almost no doubt that they are both rolecops though - so already the setup is a little screwy and we know it.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:16 am

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@Rolecops - could you each clarify what result you get from goons and VTs? Thanks!
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:17 am

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In post 636, Thor665 wrote:@Rolecops - could you each clarify what result you get from goons and VTs? Thanks!

@Silverwolf
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Just to be clear.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:20 am

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Hurm - does anyone else besides me favor the possibility of lynching Pistach as opposed to Silverwolf?
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:25 am

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Maybe. Iso-diving.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:26 am

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In post 638, Thor665 wrote:Hurm - does anyone else besides me favor the possibility of lynching Pistach as opposed to Silverwolf?


I'm fine with either. I trust you more than Nacho, and I'm starting to wonder if all this PR guessing is one of the ways we could still lose. It's making my head swim a little, at least.

I'll barn whatever you vote.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:46 am

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You guys weighing in any thoughts on the NK action would be nice too - I currently favor me as the target, but that also suggests Nacho basically conf. town - so your thoughts on Bella as target(er) are important.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:53 am

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You make a lot of sense as the target.

How does that make Nacho confirmed town?
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:21 am

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Because if I was targeted for a kill and, as is apparent, didn't die - what saved me if not Nacho the doc?
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:21 am

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For the record - the only answer is - Bella the Godfather.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:22 am

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Or, I guess, 'no kill submission' - but that seems unlikely.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:09 am

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Or scum was jk-ed n2. I'll admit, I seem like an unlikely scum-shot, unless scum thought I was under-the-radar PR...hence I agree about role-copping. If we lynch the 'wrong' role-cop, then I'm not sure....
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:46 am

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You were the only person jailed - so, I already accounted for that, but I presume you don't think that's what happened.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:10 am

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In post 637, Thor665 wrote:
In post 636, Thor665 wrote:@Rolecops - could you each clarify what result you get from goons and VTs? Thanks!

@Silverwolf
@Pistachi0n

Just to be clear.

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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:39 am

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In post 647, Thor665 wrote:You were the only person jailed - so, I already accounted for that, but I presume you don't think that's what happened.

Dave hasn't said if he jailed Bella or not

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