Mini 1722: Warcraft III - Reign of MAFIA (DOOM HAS COME)

[Vedith]

Confirm

[Vedith]

VOTE: FB
Might as well do this now.

[Vedith]

Ah didn't see page 2. vote stands.

[Vedith]

Vedith: Elf Street Samurai

10/10 logic. Just call this game a win from here, eh?

[Vedith]

Vedith: Elf Street Samurai

45
No idea why it messed up a quote...
I meant post 45 though.

[Vedith]

Almost all of the win conditions are phrased differently, because I was lazy when writing all flavor entertainment. There is one scumteam in this game - trying to fight the Undead Scourge. The Burning Legion is this game's town. Don't try to play on role PM details in this game.

[Vedith]

I think that we should give Shiro more credit than that. As scum you know who you want to kill and you won't fuck up like that so easily... Well Shiro wouldn't imo.

[Vedith]

I'm not sure flavour or faction claiming is wise at this point. At least without pressure.

[Vedith]

Warcraft 3? Well I haven't played with others. This stage it's just clarifying who the bad guys are.

[Vedith]

What wagon BRantz?

All I see is a wagon on ABR. Now are people actually thinking scummy or just voting to look town?
Voting someone for including theme fluff in a themed game is no way in any form scummy if you ask me.

[Vedith]

So, FA - Let's talk further on your scum thought with Shiro.
Do you really think that scum wouldn't know who they need to kill?

[Vedith]

Vezok I still don't even know why you're voting Shiro.

Because he's scum and Shiro is an easy cop out.
Shiro is town for me. And pushing for that 'slip' is what's scummy.

UNVOTE: FB
VOTE: vezokpiraka

[Vedith]

So, FA - I don't really understand your stance on vezokpiraka. Can you explain it.

[Vedith]

Why is he town for you FB?

[Vedith]

So do you agree with him concerning Shiro?

[Vedith]

So do you agree with him concerning Shiro?

I don't think I ever said that.

No.

I know you didn't that's why I was asking.
So who do you suggest we look at?

[Vedith]

Shinobi, you seem to be a little loose this game?

[Vedith]

Well I'm just not really sure of where you stand in most cases. If you actually are bored of this game it could be the reason, but you seem careless in what happens.
Flying with the wind more or less.

[Vedith]

Problem with day 1 mostly.

[Vedith]

Vote FB.

[Vedith]

I'm not really voting you.

[Vedith]

Don't assume that Survivors are anti town, you should know the player in the role. Not the role itself.

If I was a survivor I would want to screw the town over.
However, FB isn't like this. He'll take the most convenient win, but he's more pro town mind set than anti town.

I'm fully against a FB lynch and anyone that wants him lynched will just increase suspicion.

[Vedith]

I thought you didn't believe my claim.

I told you, spam the unvote and vote.
That will activiate my ability.

You goddamn coward.

If I do this will I die or will it give you a kill?

[Vedith]

He says you will die.

Yeah I don't believe that.

[Vedith]

@FB - How many votes until you explode?
I want to test it.

[Vedith]

I guess I could clarify this with mod.

Please do.

[Vedith]

ok maybe i should read the last page before voting

stop this, hes telling the truth

Can you explain to us then?

[Vedith]

why are these four people voting vezok: BRantz, Vedith, Netherspite, The Silver Bard

Yup, I'm not a fan on his focus with Shiro...
Now he is trying to focus FB, because if FB is neutral he's most likely to help town over scum...

[Vedith]

Guys. Please. Third parties are anti-town by definition.
Imagine mylo with survivor and two toens agains scum. Why eould the survivor care who he votes? This is why you lynch survivor claims immediately.

As FB said, it's down to the person, not the role. If FB is survivor I'm confident that he won't screw town other unless he has to.
Btw, what's your opinion on Shiro now?

[Vedith]

Yeah I'm not against Gale being lynched.

[Vedith]

So we have a SK sheep...
Get out of here...

[Vedith]

So FB is at L1 just for trying to advise town...

[Vedith]

Yeah if you aren't scum then scum are just having a laugh at wasted focus on you...

[Vedith]

I don't agree.

[Vedith]

It derailed because you lot decided to derail it and focus on FB.
So do you think before hand FB was a prime target for scum?

[Vedith]

Yes, but I'll ask again... Do you think that FB was a prime kill for scum?

[Vedith]

Okay let me ask this.
What was your read on FB before he revealed?

[Vedith]

So if he was scum for you, wouldn't you have focused him?
Hold on... the reason that it was anti town for him to say it was because if made people focus him... which you already would have been...
I'm sorry but there is no logic to your argument what so ever.

[Vedith]

So you didn't focus on your scum read or have intentions to?

[Vedith]

So what's stopping you focusing on your other reads?
I guess that will only be yourself stopping you...

[Vedith]

Vedith I like that you are trying to spark some life into the discussion again.

Is vezo still your number 1 scumread? If yes, do you scumread anyone else? If no, who is your number 1 scumread.

He does seem most likely top flip scum for me at this stage. He doesn't seem to care who goes as long as he can draw as much attention to them as he can.
I'm starting to think that ABR is also the same level as scummy but that's because of the way he acted after FB said that he would help town. It's as if though he doesn't want to take that chance and it gives no additional information going into day 2 (in the sense of scum buddies).

Seeing as we are closing in on deadline, would you prefer a Firebringer lynch over a no lynch?

I'm always preferable for a lynch unless it is beneficial to us. No lynch day 1 is never beneficial imo. I will vote FB if the deadline gets close enough but I am far preferable to vote else where.

I think we need to just kille Firebringer today, if not we will have the same poor activity on day 2, where most people just use FB's claim as an excuse not to discuss anything and not to scumhunt.

Sadly, this could be true. Although I trust that if FB is a survivor that we would side with us, scum and just blind town will keep using this against him.

[Vedith]

Hey, Vez - After the FB lynch, if he flips survivor, then what. Do you have anyone else? Or will you go back to Shiro?

[Vedith]

I'm fine for that lynch.

[Vedith]

I'm just looking to make sure that lynching FB is the right course of action.
Why do you want to rush this? I already said that I will vote that way if gets late to a lynch.

[Vedith]

No, you just keep bringing us back to the topic.

[Vedith]

I think Nether is scum.

So we should be voting scum, right?

[Vedith]

We don't know who scum is. FireBringer is still a safe lynch.

So scum get another day, we go into tomorrow with another person down.
What's your plan then? Just to try and mis lynch Nether?

[Vedith]

@Fire to gather information

What did you gain?

[Vedith]

pretty sure he scum slipped in 492.

What part?

[Vedith]

and Bran helped Fire get out of L-1.

If you read BRanzt as town, why would this be involved in your read on FB? Or information on him?

[Vedith]

I have... He normally refuses to say his role at L1, he goes quiet and gets lynched.
He's not been scum for me.

[Vedith]

Vez just wants to get to his NK option.

[Vedith]

No I think that FB is at L2?

[Vedith]

I recommend investigation on Netherspite tonight.

A waste of investigation. Would be better to check

vezokpiraka

/

inte

.
But either way, you'll may be finally reconsider your reads when I'll be confirmed town so I don't mind being investigated.

You're scum.

So you don't think Vez is a good person to check?
Is he town for you?

[Vedith]

VOTE: FB

Obviously this is going no where else.
ABR and Vez seem a likely scum pair for me.

[Vedith]

Sorry FB but I am always for a lynch than a no lynch day 1.
You should have just not said about the visiting and let an idiot explode.

[Vedith]

Vez is just scum, ignore him.
Tomorrow I'm going to be poking at him and everyone that reads him as town.
I'm not sure how he didn't get more votes on him?

[Vedith]

VOTE: The Silver Bard

Yeah I'll go here for now.

[Vedith]

A traitor normally dies in that situation, right?

[Vedith]

Why?

I just have a scum feeling.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Shinobi

Shinobi actually looks very town if you ask me.
Why do you think that he hasn't been pushing? Day 1 was more of a shambles than anything, wouldn't you agree?

[Vedith]

@FA - What's your read on TSB?

[Vedith]

@FA - Do you think that Shinobi is town or scum?

[Vedith]

We should go with the nulls who are:

I say that we go for scum rather than a null...
If people do not have anyone in their scum section at this point, then that's suspicious on it's own...

[Vedith]

Ah, I get it.
Then yes, I agree that there will be at least 1 scum in that section.

I don't mind an Inte lynch as I don't even remember much of them in this game...

[Vedith]

@silverwolf: if shiro is smart that means he knows wifom and he can town read his buddies. Why are you eliminating the town reads immediately?

Shiro wouldn't town read both buddies I don't think... But I can see 1 being there.

[Vedith]

Awww, why don't you like me?

[Vedith]

Oh, L1? Inte, intent to hammer - Claim.

[Vedith]

Talk to me about CotW.
I'm not sure how I feel over them but I'm also not sure what you see as scum...

[Vedith]

Don't do that.

It's already done...

[Vedith]

It's not. I want further information before going else where.
For all I know, you are scum buddies with them... Maybe no scum on his wagon at all. I will see how I feel when inte gets back.

[Vedith]

Never waste your vig. Well almost never and certainly not on night 2.

That's a terrible comment... You use your vig power to suit the situation, not to suit what night it is.

[Vedith]

it is true for THIS situation

Agreed.

[Vedith]

Are these gut reads, or are there reasons?

[Vedith]

I wouldn't be happy with a Netherspite lynch at all today.
CotW isn't in my town slot and Bard is in my scum slot. I'm happy to focus on these 2.

[Vedith]

Can we not hammer until I get home at least?

If you have concern, then why not unvote until you get home?

Can we not hammer until I get home at least?

Yes please.
No reason to hammer that early.

You too...

[Vedith]

But my comment was, if you don't want a hammer yet, then why not unvote to prevent that?
You can still have intent to have you vote there, but it does prevent a derp hammer.

[Vedith]

If you have concern, then why not unvote until you get home?

see why they're in my scum pile?

I mean, you get what I am saying, right?
I'm not telling them to unvote, but how does it work having concern about a hammer but leaving them at L1?

[Vedith]

But my comment was, if you don't want a hammer yet, then why not unvote to prevent that?
You can still have intent to have you vote there, but it does prevent a derp hammer.

Derp hammer provides information as well.

And it also stops information and ends the day early...

[Vedith]

It's interesting how Vedith says there shouldn't be null reads and agree'd with me about looking at Shiro's nulls and about inte but then agree'd with Nether that there could be one Shiro townread who is scum and also goes along with ABR's feelings on us because we are not in his town list meaning we are null when he earlier said there shouldn't be nulls at this point.

So because I think Shiro had scum in null and town?
That makes no sense...

I also said, there shouldn't

only

be null reads. If you are going to try and make up shit, do better.

[Vedith]

Verdith, become my ally. I got your back, you got mine. Let's eliminate our enemies.

I mean, I don't trust you enough to put you as an ally yet, however, I do know stuff.

[Vedith]

In my memory there was only one derphammer in non-newbie games I've been in.
And it was done by scum.
So for me derphammer provides lots of information and I'm okay with sacrificing remainder of the day to get that information.
I'm not saying I want someone to derphammer, I've expressed how am I against it.
However, if some scum wants to do it - I don't mind, go ahead

I've seen it in non newbie games by town. I've also seen experienced players do it... It just takes a bad catch up to do it...
I mind, I don't want the day ending early.

[Vedith]

I mean, there is so much wrong with what you are saying...
My read hasn't changed on you before someone tries to mis word me, but you are basically saying
"Don't hammer, but if you do I don't care."
How does that make sense?

[Vedith]

This strong resistance to the inte lynch is also noted.

Yeah, and the non focus on your scum read at L1 is noted.
You are more concerned about stirring the pot right now, to pass attention off what, a mis lynch?

[Vedith]

I'm saying: "Don't hammer if you're town, go for it though if you aren't."

This is going no where.

[Vedith]

@Vedith

Idk how to explain it better to you.
I just tried to warn town to not quickhammer.
Because personally I'll interprete quickhammer as a scumclaim.

@VedithIdk how to explain it better to you.I just tried to warn town to not quickhammer.Because personally I'll interprete quickhammer as a scumclaim.

I get what you are saying... I really do.
It really doesn't matter as I'm not quick hammering.

[Vedith]

Nope, I'm voting for inte so I don't think he's a mislynch nor am I trying to shift focus to a different lynch.

Hey, it's called scumhunting. You know. Pointing out things that are odd?

~SW

No, it's making up shit to give justification of a different lynch the next day and to draw focus from you. XD
I'm not too worried about you though, as I know if you're scum, Titus will slip up.

[Vedith]

Love how suddenly everyone is so worried about us but won't specify.

Considering the post before this I say the words "not worried"... IronKnee

[Vedith]

I was talking about Nether's post. I even quoted it.

Love how suddenly

everyone

is so worried about us but won't specify.

Lets focus on the word "everyone"
SW - Keep talking shit, it makes you look so town...

[Vedith]

Please continue to lie if it makes you happy. I am hardly drawing focus away from me as that is the hot topic now. LOL

Yeah that back fired for you...
Maybe you SHOULD let Titus do the talking, even she isn't that bad as scum.

[Vedith]

Do you scumread Call of the Wild at the moment? If so, when did you begin feeling so?

Not so much... Not in my town read and I haven't seen anything I don't like from Titus yet. I personally think that Titus is a very obvious scum player, not seen her in a hydra before though.
If I had to decide to pull the trigger or to leave until end game, I would pull the trigger if that helps.

SW twisting comments doesn't make me feel better, but then I know that SW always thinks that she is right regardless of align.

[Vedith]

Anyway I've asked Titus to take over for awhile. I'm getting pissed off at your instigating shit and she will be along when she can.

Yay for Titus - It's my preferred head of the 2.

[Vedith]

Yay for Titus - It's my preferred head of the 2.

And that wasn't actually supposed to come across as an insult.. I generally like playing in games with Titus.

[Vedith]

Sure it wasn't.

It actually wasn't. But take it as you shall.

[Vedith]

Netherspite - opinion on Bard?

[Vedith]

Oh Vedith, you bought me CCing a cop as scum so if you're going to gloat actually get my alignment right. :-p

No, in every game it's obvious. Plus I had you pinned before.
I didn't say your align, so how can I be wrong?
hmmmm? hmmmm?

[Vedith]

Everyone knows that was a reaction test or a piss poor implication of me as scum. You wouldn't do it if you thought we were town.

*pats*

Now either we can quibble trying to show who is in whose head better or we can actually lynch scum?

While SW knows you're just trying to provoke, I see the tactic and raise you.

Scum
Inte
Nether

Town
FAQ
ABR
Vedith
Perforner
Call of the Wild

Not Groupscum probably
Vezok

Got any problems with this?

Everyone knew but me, apparently.
Me, provoke? Never!

Still not a fan of Nether as a lynch... TSB should be lynched if not inte.

[Vedith]

Because I don't think that he is scum...

[Vedith]

Because I don't think that he is scum...

Why? I don't see much townie today.

Why, what do you see that's scummy from him?
The only thing I haven't liked from him is the "no one hammer, but I don 't care" attitude with inte. Apart from that I get town vibe from what he is posting.

[Vedith]

So who are your 2 scum reads? If any...

[Vedith]

What the flying fuck are you talking about? Do you think 8 town against 5 anti-town is a fair game? Are you out of your mind?

Yeah I tend to agree with this.
Vez shouldn't be even pointed at for at least a few days...

If double kills turn up and both kills seem odd, then we can raise a question.

[Vedith]

a) it's too early for the hammer and I want to see more discussion going;

You keep saying this... But even when someone showed intent to end the day early, you didn't unvote. Meaning that you are okay with ending the day early...

[Vedith]

Yes, I understand what you followed up with last time.
But you said you

want

more discussion... You have the power to ensure that, and yet you choose not to with the attitude of "If Bard votes, it's a scumclaim".

[Vedith]

No, you don't get it... I am drawing a conclusion due to your lack of actions, not what others are doing...
Bard is going for the counter wagon, so if some magical reason TSB is town, then that sets up a next day mis lynch if Inte is actually town.
Your attitude to the whole thing is anti town.

[Vedith]

To prevent the wagon dropping to a stage where he can't lynch and gets lynched himself?
There's motivation, but is it justified motivation? No...

[Vedith]

Hey, I agree... It's not the best way to be as town, but so many people play like that.
I can't see them both as town, I can see 1 town and 1 scum, but without the proof all we have atm is further conversation.

[Vedith]

By not very towny, do you mean scum or null?
I haven't seen enough to put into town, but no way are they posting scum minded comments. The fact that they are trying to resolve a good possibly lynch rather than just throw the pitch fork at a single person is what I like.
As I said, if Titus is scum, she will easily slip up so I'm not a fan of lynching here to this point.

[Vedith]

Yeah, he's a strong town lean for me. He's spot on with his thinking in a black and white scenario, however I think that he needs to broaden his views on people.

[Vedith]

Yeah, we shouldn't be voting Nether...

[Vedith]

I feel like you're missing the entire point of the last page. Can't you see that Bard and Titus/SW are scum together? Open your eyes.

Well I'm happy to lynch Bard and then work from there...

[Vedith]

I'm not arguing with you though...

[Vedith]

Sorry, I didn't really come on yesterday.
Okay, lets see.

UNVOTE: Bard
VOTE: CotW

This will be interesting to see who joins and who doesn't...
If Shinobi refuses to vote anyone else then yeah, that will look bad for him.

[Vedith]

Lynching CotW is bad.

If it's not CotW, it's going to be you...

Otherwise, give me reason to vote else where.

[Vedith]

If Shinobi is town, you are forcing him to vote us regardless.

That's kind of the point.

[Vedith]

Which part?

[Vedith]

I personally think that town should question the votes on people after the flip...
Complaining about people voting you is scummy unless you actually counter the reason.

If there is a wagon on you, you should really be asking "As town, what am I doing wrong?"

[Vedith]

Someone fill me in where we are at... Why is Bard or CotW not dead?

[Vedith]

Is that my fill in post? Can you make it smaller as I'm not in the mass reading mood right now.

[Vedith]

Hello.

[Vedith]

I'm still re-reading but it looks like you've flown almost entirely under the radar. Why do you think that is?

Because I'm really sneaky.

[Vedith]

Keep pushing our mislynch. It makes you look so town.

A mis lynch could be as much a town tell as scum tell...
Saying that someone is scum for believing incorrectly is more scummy imo.

[Vedith]

That's exactly what you're doing to us. :S

The difference is you have tried to point blame every where but you and Bard...

[Vedith]

There's 10 alive.
2 scum.
Scum won't bus Nether.
Possible SK.

Mislynch me, two townies die.

7 alive
2 scum plus Anatole

The worst stats EU...

[Vedith]

Why would we blame the only other player who is voting scum?

So in one moment no one knows Bard's align, the next you know who scum is?
GG logics...

[Vedith]

I'm town.

Why not say sooner?
I feel silly now...

[Vedith]

I'm Vezok's replacement, btw.

Thanks for the reminder.

[Vedith]

I wish Cotw's predecessor never replaced out because cotw is so annoying, antitown and selfish.

That's the Titus head, at it's prime...

[Vedith]

Archimonde is the leader of the faction represented in this game as the town.

I don't think that's true...
I mean, I believe your claim, but I don't think this part is true...

[Vedith]

Confused, dumb town most likely.

Yeah, that's scum talk for me!

[Vedith]

just vig cotw, wasted slot by their play

Yeah, give the vig 1 target... 10/10 there.

[Vedith]

I'm p sure Archimonde is the leader of the Burning Legion's presence in RoC

Fair enough, I thought Tichondrius was but I can't remember fluff wise too well.

[Vedith]

You should be. You claimed scum and I can't get you lynched. That's my failing.

Quote the claim, and I'll vote.
I don't recall this though?

[Vedith]

He's also my other scumsuspect and I'm trying to get him and Nether lynched. I'm the only one with the right team, and the only vig target. There's a point where scum are just playing with their food.

Well, now it's you instead of a hydra, I feel better about trying to read you.
So lets go through their cases again. I know that you are probably tired of saying it but I want to see what reasons for them that others can't be accused for as well.

[Vedith]

If I were a vig he'd be one of the main people I'd want to kill actually.

...

[Vedith]

She claimed to be a cop that could see if a slot was a VT or not

I've been busy so I missed a few pages, do we know who she checked?

[Vedith]

Ok, I'll do this again.

1) Nether crumbed VT early on. Nether claims he crumbed Ghoul only. Ghoul can only be a VT though.
2) Nether has basically sheeped anything else with a pulse.
3) When I try to work with the rest of the town to lynch Nether, highlighting Nether's play, I'm suddenly wagoned.
4) When I was merely suspecting Nether, I wasn't a suspect at all.
5) Nether has put in cases full of lies on us.
6) Nether hasn't scumhunted but just tried to spam out us and say we're wrong.

Thanks, I haven't been focused but I'm off work now. Keep in mind, my comments below are actually trying to work with you on this.

1 - I mean, I don't know how true that is, given he knows the fluff but knowing that Ghouls have no powers?
2 - Can you give examples on these?
3 - Wouldn't that suggest that he is town, rather than scum? I mean, if everyone jumps on you for it...
4 - I personally didn't like the shade pointing towards the vig possibly being SK. There's no reason to think of SK at this stage.
5 - Full lies, or exaggerations?
6 - Are you going by today, or yesterday as well? If so, I'm happy to check his ISO now and advise if you are wrong or right.

[Vedith]

I checked ABR, but scum likely deduced he was "not Ghoul" anyway because he slipped it. So there's no real independent confirmation of my role.

So what good is this? VT and Goons are all Ghouls to you?

[Vedith]

Or you just intentionally lied to support your defense.

That's a weak excuse to claim a lie...

[Vedith]

She checked Albert B. Rampage because she suspected him as a PR.

In fairness, ABR is a good night 1 choice from Day 1 actions.
I'm not saying I buy it yet though.

[Vedith]

I'm presuming so.

So then what use are you in the game in all honesty? And I really don't mean to sound harsh, but sure all goons will just claim VT?
I never get this kind of Cop personally...

[Vedith]

I've posted countless reasons for that.

Care to list them again? Just so I can view.
Keep in mind, my vote is still on Titus as it stands.

[Vedith]

I'm presuming so.

So then what use are you in the game in all honesty? And I really don't mean to sound harsh, but sure all goons will just claim VT?
I never get this kind of Cop personally...

If all the scum are goons, I'm a named townie and thus useless. Not denying that fact. I'd bet scum have a PR somewhere.

Okay, so you find out for example ABR has a power. Now how do we decide if he is scum or town PR?
This is what I mean by your role... It's of little use. If anything, it tells scum who not to shoot.

[Vedith]

@Titus - So it gives you their role as well? Sorry to be a pain with this but I thought you meant it says Ghoul or not?

[Vedith]

@Vedith

My #1168 has detailed explanation on what was happening and why did I crumb a Ghoul. It has number of reasons to consider

Titus

scum.
After that I've posted 2 theories.
First is if we believe

Titus

- #1195;
Second is if we believe me - #1197.
Pick the one you feel sounds more logical.

I've also summarized inconsistences in her claims in #1301 and #1304.

Yeah, I really can't see issues in Nether's reasons compared to yours. Titus.

[Vedith]

But you're saying that you know that Nether will come up as ghoul so you refuse to check him. So you're a useless role.

Exactly! It basically a role that can't prove her case...

[Vedith]

Vote Gale

Lets all keep in mind how weak this vote was...
And then focus went else where.

[Vedith]

Hence why I want to check someone else. You keep telling me to do something I perceive to be stupid.

But back to my argument - What does your role offer?
You said that scum will kill you tonight? If I were scum and you were telling the truth, why would I be worried about you? This is what I'm getting at.

[Vedith]

She lied on this one.
She didn't replace Gale.
She did replace shadowezz.

Ah, I thought she said the other way around...
Regardless, I don't think that's a lie that I'll look into, I've done it before a few times, even called someone I replaced town...

[Vedith]

I am thinking clearly. You're just not seeing facts. You're the one so stubborn and in your everygame must disagree with Titus mode.

1293

Then help me with this post, as I don't see strength in your case.

[Vedith]

Vedith, no joke. If you don't chill with the ellipses I will shoot you

Then try it.

[Vedith]

VOTE: the silver bard

Good vote...

UNVOTE: Titus......
VOTE: Bard......

...

[Vedith]

anyone else excited about this vig kill?

Yes...

[Vedith]

you're giving me way too much credit if you think I was joking

You're giving yourself way too much credit it looks like...

[Vedith]

Yup, that's noted. I'm not sure why even more so when Inte says they will vote for Bard (well, implied.)

[Vedith]

L1 - Someone just hammer.

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Titus wouldn't bus?
Never seen those words together before!

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Anatole i swear to bob you better shoot the right person

He's shooting me, don't worry about it!

[Vedith]

VOTE: Netherspite

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Happy for inte as well.
For saying they would vote but didn't...

[Vedith]

Nope.
I'm not claiming to someone with such a stupid vote. XD
Considering I was first to vote Bard, and I was open to vote them all day even when no focus was on them.
Who had resistence to it? Nether and Inte.

1 thing I have learnt on this site, respect Titus reads when she is town.
And Nether saying why would he kill her? Because people won't buy it obviously... It's standard fucking scum. XD

Now, for people saying only 1 scum left, I highly doubt that unless we have a SK as well.

[Vedith]

Okay, so i'll keep that in mind if we actually get scum today and the game is going still.
But lets see how stupid town can get in this situation.

Makes me laugh the resistance you did against Bard, but my vote you are happy to jump straight on. XD

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She did a 10/10 job as VT... She took the scum night kill.
As I said, when she is town, she knows what she is looking at and is a lot better to listen to than not.

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I already said that I'm okay with an Inte lynch... The post saying that they are fine lynching then logging off was really scummy.

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This is why you are also on my scum list.

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For the record, I won't need to role reveal as Anatole can do it for me.

[Vedith]

He just does. XD

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Just be patient.
If he wishes to confirm it that's down to him, if he chooses not to then you will need to run me up to L1 to get it.

[Vedith]

2 scum and 1 traitor keep in mind...
Is the game still goes on after the last scum dies, then you know who the SK is.

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Anatole, obviously.

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So fucking stupid it hurts.

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And for the record as ABR is acting so fucking stupid... I'm Tichondrius.
I'm not revealing my power so either lynch away or stop being stupid.

[Vedith]

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Why wouldn't he? If it was a no lynch, he would look suspicious as fuck...
He was against the lynch the whole time, even it was said that Titus would be looked into after.

ABR, have you played with town Titus before?

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I played with town Titus before, sure.

So then you know she makes sense as town...
Did you even seen the refusal of Nether voting Bard all day yesterday?

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But they don't... I didn't think you were town, but if you are, then you are just playing so badly...

Scum points to Nether, but you are just being too arrogant to see it. Why do you think he is kissing your arse today?

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Look, I'm not saying Nether isn't scum. He's pretty high up on my list of possible scum.

Shittest town play EU

[Vedith]

If I'm lynched today because of your shit play, I hope that people consider you as a highly likely scum (since you are already preparing other lynches once I flip town).
I can't see you playing this bad as town to be honest. Unless it's a habit of yours?

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@Vedith

If you're so sure I'm scum why don't just let us lynch you and NK me?
We'll win anyway.
Why the order of the kills matters for you so much?

I'm not so sure. But what ABR is saying is that everything points to me as scum, which it doesn't, everything points to you as scum.
If I'm mis lynched, and then you NK as town, then ABR is going to push some other muppet (with only 5 people alive at that stage)... ¬¬

Overall I think you will flip scum, but I'm not betting it 100%.

[Vedith]

Too many games I'm in where people think that the game is solved, and then scum end up winning... It's fucking stupid, and people's arrogance on this site is what gives scum so many wins.

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Vedith, this plan works for you as well? It works for me.

I can stop the last scum from shooting... So that is why it matters... Seriously... You guys are so bad.

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Can you really not put 2 and 2 together?

After Ana says he will shoot me, and then I say that he knows my role?

I know that you can work it out for yourself...

[Vedith]

Grabs ABR hand and helps him colour inside the lines

Now think hard about it. I can prevent scum killing, I wasn't killed last night, and someone who can kill knows why.

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And if Inte is town?
Like I said, too many games where town have been too confident.

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What makes me not liking it is why would he roleblock a Vig and not me? If he thought I'm scum...

Because the Vig was shooting me... I mean, can no one fucking read?
I think I'm done posting here. For now on I will Prodge until end of day.
Have fun.

[Vedith]

@mod
Prod received
V/LA until tomorrow

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Wtf are you lot doing with the votes?
ABR is obviously lost in this game, just because he was right on obvious scum (Like others) doesn't mean that he knows what's going on.

UNVOTE: Nether
I'll read up properly later.

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Okay, So since there are at least 4 roles (correct me if more) already out there.
Would mass reveal be beneficial?

-Nether - VT
-Inte - VT
Vedith - RB
Anatole - Vig

@Nether, if you think it's mostly unlikely that I am scum RB, why do you still fancy me as a lynch (guessing from your vote).

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Oh, ABR also claimed VT.
So that's FA, Shinobi and Performer that haven't.

Off the tables for me to lynch today;

ABR - I'm happy with him town, I RB him night 1. Doesn't mean town, but he didn't make the kill night 1.
Antole - Even if SK, not a choice for today.
Nether - Lynching here would be pointless, he did crumb Ghoul at the start, and the sudden dip on ABR when he voted Nether looked more town than scum...

The rest I'd like to be suggested and I'll look.

I'm obviously against my lynch, but if this starts up again, I've already said my piece and I'm not going to let it annoy me.

[Vedith]

So, can you explain your reason on both?
I'll look on Inte. Did Bard have any opinions about them?

[Vedith]

shrug, TSB can die


shrug, TSB can die

Why did you not follow up with a vote here?

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I will hammer inte tomorrow. So if you want a different lycnh or want him to live abit longer it is time to move your votes.

Resistance to lynch.

Lynching CotW is bad.

Lynch should be Nether>Shinobi>inte.

So distancing while showing scum buddy?

I need to keep looking but Inte would be a good lynch so far.

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VOTE: FA

Reasoning is in Bard and Shiro both calling you town.

You really haven't done much more than inte, Shinobi, or Performer. You're all at the same level of contribution. So I pick FA.

This isn't actually bad reasoning either.
I think FA or Inte could both be in the mix for day prime lynch.

I can RB the other... Or Ana kill them and I RB Shinobi.

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I mean, I'm preferable for an Inte lynch as it stands... And then have you killed by Ana and I block Shinobi if the game goes on.

[Vedith]

Bard at L-2.

Missing Nether's vote and inte.

@Inte, you are talking shit.

[Vedith]

VOTE: inte

[Vedith]

I blocked Shinobi.

[Vedith]

Wiki says immune to night actions but kills.

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Well the problem we have is that there are only 5 people left.
As scum, I would have not shot knowing that Shinobi was getting blocked (if he was town).

It might be that obvious but we need to consider this move from scum.

[Vedith]

That's actually not a terrible plan.
ABR, thoughts?

[Vedith]

that would be crazier than a 1-shot Bp Doc, right Ved? LOL

XD

Also... We should swap Shinobi with Nether...
Since he was blocked.