Mini 1722: Warcraft III - Reign of MAFIA (DOOM HAS COME)

Vedith · Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:12 pm

I'm fine for that lynch.

Call of the Wild · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:28 am

I would like to see Peformer catch up and give opinions before deciding to lynch that spot.

~SW

Shiro · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:44 am

Performer might very well act town. Will that really change the fact that the slot is scum?

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The words of singersigner in frog mafia about my partner who pretty much was like gale and his replacement did good at looking town

vezokpiraka · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:24 am

In post 473, Vedith wrote:Hey, Vez - After the FB lynch, if he flips survivor, then what. Do you have anyone else? Or will you go back to Shiro?

Can you just fucking lynch FB and talk about what we'll do tomorrow, tomorrow?

Vedith · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:32 am

I'm just looking to make sure that lynching FB is the right course of action.
Why do you want to rush this? I already said that I will vote that way if gets late to a lynch.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:23 am

In post 479, Vedith wrote:I'm just looking to make sure that lynching FB is the right course of action.
Why do you want to rush this? I already said that I will vote that way if gets late to a lynch.

Why do I want to rush this? Because we are doing absolutely nothing. Nobody is posting interesting stuff. Everyone is hung up on Firebringer. He needs to go. Dragging the day is the best way to sow apathy.

Vedith · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:07 am

No, you just keep bringing us back to the topic.

Shinobi · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:35 am

In post 480, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 479, Vedith wrote:I'm just looking to make sure that lynching FB is the right course of action.
Why do you want to rush this? I already said that I will vote that way if gets late to a lynch.

Why do I want to rush this? Because we are doing absolutely nothing. Nobody is posting interesting stuff. Everyone is hung up on Firebringer. He needs to go. Dragging the day is the best way to sow apathy.

We've been giving out alternatives - you're the one harping on it.

Performer · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:36 am

Ok, I'm caught up.

Initiating playstyle imitations:

Keyser Soze & BlueBloodedToffee

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Ok so - Fire is supposedly a 3rd faction sheep that explodes at night...and is the leading wagon. Yeah I'm not liking the risk of that.
Fire stated that he’s “the Survivor this town deserves.” What reasoning is there behind this? I have never heard of and never played in any games that have third parties who help town in the end. I will have to keep my vote on you.

Something about Shin’s 358 defense of Fire doesn’t feel right. I have never heard of and never played in any games that have third parties who help town in the end.
His continued opposition against lynching Fire, in pages 15-16, looks scummy.

Also, Net doesn’t want to lynch Fire either? Explain.
Also, thanks for the welcome!

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Shiro’s talk of Gale being a new player (as scum) replacing out, in the face of pressure – understandable.
Her rushing to lynch me is rather uncomfortable (aka scummy), as I am town. Took some time for me in pming the mod to ascertain this because of the flavor confusion. But I’m town.
Also, thanks for the welcome!

So you're scumreading but why? Is this based on the predecessor's posts? Talk to me.
Because your reactions to Gale's posts look like you're streching his intention.

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453 – I thought you meant stalking in a way like the musical number from Sweeney Todd, “Johanna.” Hahaha.
As far as my first game on this site, I was trying to be laidback and careful but Silv, it was my very first FM game on *this* site, plus I was a PR who got put at L-1. So it didn’t go well. Add in the Cop who had to leave middle of day one, and got lynched at the end of day 1 – town had a recipe for disaster. Anyway, we live and we learn.
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@FA – I played against both of them when they were scum. I’ve come a long way so if they’re scum in this game, I think I can get a decent read on that. Also, from my research I’ve done on Alb, it seems he’s familiar with Titus’s play even more than I am.
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@mod – thanks for the extension! I requested it in pm as well.
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inte – unvoted Fire, hasn’t voted since then, ignored FA because FA called him out scummy behavior…that ignoring makes no sense. And int’s last post was just a prodge. His ISO doesn’t look like much.

Shinobi · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:59 am

I'm super unimpressed by that catchup.
At best I'd classify it as a bunch of omgus - even beyond that the reasoning is rather poor.

Defending 3p is scummy - why?
It's not for other players - why?
Your points on Shiro aren't good or particularly valid either.

Performer · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:02 am

3p aren't here to help town and they eventually have to be dealt with. I don't see any reason to defend them.

I don't see what you mean by "not for other players."

What I see from our predecessors of Gale and shad, anyone from any faction can say those things.
What in the points at Shiro, aren't valid?

Firebringer · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:27 am

VOTE: Performer
Lets be honest, gale only voted me cause gale was other leading wagon and didn't want to get lynched.
I didn't want to make a big deal out of it, but it was pretty suspect and scummy from my POV.

And most of the reason for this vote is to protect my own skin. At least I am honest about it.

I still think Performer is mafia in this, Gale was definitely playing a bit suspicious from my POV

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:32 am

Gale is a question mark. I think Nether is scum.

Performer · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:34 am

Fire - Basing the vote on an ex player who played oddly for a very brief time - that isn't sufficient reasoning.

Your vote before this was on Bran, what was that about?

Firebringer · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:35 am

In post 488, Performer wrote:Fire - Basing the vote on an ex player who played oddly for a very brief time - that isn't sufficient reasoning.

Your vote before this was on Bran, what was that about?

Why in the hell are you trying to analyze me?

Like you are looking for reasons to call me scum.

My alignment and role are completely common knowledge.

Vedith · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:38 am

In post 487, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I think Nether is scum.

So we should be voting scum, right?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:42 am

We don't know who scum is. FireBringer is still a safe lynch.

Performer · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:43 am

@Fire to gather information
@Bran why did he vote you?

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I'm getting a disturbing feeling from Net. He spoke of being allied with Burning Legion (town), yet talks of eating brains and slaying humans. He said he was playing to his role pm but it doesn't give me a pro-town feeling. And at the end of d1, he doesn't want to lynch Fire (who kept talking about being 3p in d1).
If I die tonight, my other scumreads are int & Net.

Going null on Call at the moment, I'm curious to see more from her.
Null on Shiro so far but her claim about being 3p until end of d2, is incredibly odd to me in a 13-player mini game.
Null on FA so far but I'm doing a second look at him, to better sort him in my reads.

Vedith · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:46 am

In post 491, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We don't know who scum is. FireBringer is still a safe lynch.

So scum get another day, we go into tomorrow with another person down.
What's your plan then? Just to try and mis lynch Nether?

BRantz · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:49 am

@ Performer I don't know why he voted me.

VOTE: Performer pretty sure he scum slipped in 492.

Vedith · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:50 am

In post 492, Performer wrote:@Fire to gather information

What did you gain?

Vedith · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:51 am

In post 494, BRantz wrote:pretty sure he scum slipped in 492.

What part?

Performer · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:55 am

In post 495, Vedith wrote:
In post 492, Performer wrote:@Fire to gather information

What did you gain?

The fact that Fire answered my question with another question and Bran helped Fire get out of L-1. I'm townreading Bran because of his stance on the 3p, but his vote on me isn't helping town progress when we're this close to deadline.

Vedith · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:58 am

In post 497, Performer wrote:and Bran helped Fire get out of L-1.

If you read BRanzt as town, why would this be involved in your read on FB? Or information on him?

Shinobi · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:59 am

In post 485, Performer wrote:3p aren't here to help town and they eventually have to be dealt with. I don't see any reason to defend them.

Aside from the fact that they're not mafia and we gain nothing from lynching them?
Face it - FB is a safe lynch and, while he isn't necessarily town, there's no reason to assume that he's mafia or a good lynch for any reason other than the fact that he's claimed 3p.

I don't see what you mean by "not for other players."

You talked about Netherspite defending FB but scumread me for doing the same without distinguishing the difference between the two.

What in the points at Shiro, aren't valid?

Any of them? He wants to lynch you so he's mafia =/= a good argument.