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[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 2.02 The long system and the short system for counting (unchanged)

Millions, milliards, billions, billiards, trillions, trilliards! But in some countries they do it differently! In the English speaking world they do it differently, but the older system which was used in Britain until 1974 and the non english speaking world still uses it because it makes more sense!

lalaladucks

(L-6): BlueBloodedToffee

Antihero

(L-6): JarJarDrinks

BlueBloodedToffee

(L-6) All Alone

Not Voting

(9): Antihero, Bellaphant, DeasVail, DeathRowKitty, Espeonage, Fro99er, lalaladucks, MTD, Wanderer-nl

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: 284th (2²*71) day of the year or in (expired on 2015-10-13 14:00:00).

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Mod notes: Today (Tue) is the 272nd day of the year. 2⁴*17. MTD is V/LA until further notice. I think Bella’s V/LA too until Sunday.

[JarJarDrinks]

@BBT, have you been scum before? If so, did the scum team need to choose an attacker or just choose who the target was?

[JarJarDrinks]

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VOTE: BBT

3 posts in past games that seem to indicate that BBT should be aware roleblocks stop kills:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6811670
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p7056489
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6838530

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Alright, well I have no idea how to respond to that.

You either believe that I simply didn't know (forgot) or you don't. There isn't much else I can say. It's pretty embarrassing that I have forgotten about this more than once.

[JarJarDrinks]

Curious as to what other people think of those posts. I really haven't read you as scum @ all this game. That just seems pretty bad though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I mean, I can see your point with the first link (though clearly I didn't know you could role-block kills then and that was dated a year after I had joined the site) as I have quite clearly asked before whether you can role-block kills.

Role-blocking instantly makes me think of being able to block roles - not kills.

I don't get the second link, can you explain it?

I don't get what the third link shows either?

I don't think there was a town roleblocker in any of those games was there?

[Antihero]

Curious as to what other people think of those posts. I really haven't read you as scum @ all this game. That just seems pretty bad though.

the claimed roleblock + no kill looks worse than the stuff in the links. but dv softed ~something else~ so that's kind of a wash..f dsjla;jfiewova4h8gfha

#mealymouthingisgreat

[JarJarDrinks]

I don't get the second link, can you explain it?

I don't get what the third link shows either?

in the 2nd link you quoted TSO who said " I basically don't think pisskop would be sent to do the kill. I think that the risk of Salamence being a maverick and blocking him would be too great."

Nothing too incrinating but you quoted someone who is stating that scums kill can be blocked.

The third link seems self-explanatory. You specifically say that PRs can block kills.

[JarJarDrinks]

Unrelated to the quotes though BBT, lemme ask:

You've been scum. Why do you think that scum has to designate an attacker?

[JarJarDrinks]

Can we ask All Alone for his role PM and is that allowed? If he's town, he's already outed as a PR so IDK how it can hurt?

Copying or quoting your role PM into a game thread is not allowed in any game on this site, and in most games (including this one) it is a modkillable offense. Paraphrasing is fine. --P

[JarJarDrinks]

K, that answers that. Would still like him to confirm that he's claiming town roleblocker and not Jailkeeper or anything.

[DeasVail]

Curious as to what other people think of those posts. I really haven't read you as scum @ all this game. That just seems pretty bad though.

the claimed roleblock + no kill looks worse than the stuff in the links. but dv softed ~something else~ so that's kind of a wash..f dsjla;jfiewova4h8gfha

#mealymouthingisgreat

Yeah I don't know. I'm not going to elaborate but it is possible that there was a different reason for the lack of kill. That said, I believe All Alone's claim (especially after I said I might know why the kill didn't happen). First reaction is that BBT is scum because he was someone I was considering yesterday, but I still need to re-sort my reads after I was clearly wrong yesterday and the roleblock result can't be taken as definite.

[Bellaphant]

Everyone that's played with BBT - he looks horribly scummy as town, so IDEK right now.

I'm town-reading Anti, I wanna hear more from BBT and I'm having weird feelings about Frogger bc of behaviour around the mollie lynch - thoughts?


@Jar, talk to me about your vote?

[JarJarDrinks]

Everyone that's played with BBT - he looks horribly scummy as town, so IDEK right now.

BBT hasn't looked scummy to me though. @ least not until the whole not knowing about roleblocks thing happened.

@Jar, talk to me about your vote?

What do u wanna know? I posted how it seems like he lied about how he didn't know RBs stop attacks. I'm waiting for his response to my last question.

[Antihero]

Everyone that's played with BBT - he looks horribly scummy as town, so IDEK right now.

bbt has a scummies-caliber scum game so this is kind of a bizarre assessment of his meta

[JarJarDrinks]

All Alone, did u notice DVs soft claim before u made ur claim?

[Fro99er]

Maybe All Alone is scum and scum no-killed thereby framing BBT?

I would say that's crazy? But it just happened to BBT in Frog mafia (linked in my sig) albeit with slightly different circumstances. I'll need to investigate BBT's reaction there when I'm off phone.

Also Bella WTF I'm super town. Why would I push so hard for a Mollie mislynch as scum when I could just NK her if I was scum?

My "weird" behavior was the guilt of upsetting a very good friend that I know well in RL for pushing her if I was wrong. That was paranoia I was wrong. I get the same way when I play with singer, for example.

[Antihero]

Maybe All Alone is scum and scum no-killed thereby framing BBT?

I would say that's crazy?

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[Fro99er]

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[Antihero]

I would say that's crazy? But it just happened to BBT in Frog mafia (linked in my sig) albeit with slightly different circumstances. I'll need to investigate BBT's reaction there when I'm off phone.

replace "slightly" with "drastically" and yes, you're right.

in that game, mala was already claimed. and was town.

plz tell me what part of this scenario you think is analogous.

[Antihero]

Also Bella WTF I'm super town. Why would I push so hard for a Mollie mislynch as scum when I could just NK her if I was scum?

...that's exactly what mollie said about me....

[Fro99er]

in that game, mala was already claimed. and was town.

plz tell me what part of this scenario you think is analogous.

The point is scum no killed knowing there was a JK to frame BBT specifically.

All Alone could be scum roleblocker claiming the truth that he's a roleblocker, but frameingBBT by virtue of a no kill.

The situations are analogous in that regard.

I just missed that game so it's fresh on my mind and I don't want to jump to conclusions that it makes BBT scum, although I AM leaning that way. But I'm phone posting and want to investigate BBT's reaction there to see if it was similar here or different so I don't vote without having done the necessary research.

[Antihero]

why your mind goes to that as a primary concerns takes some mental acrobatics

[Fro99er]

I also want to analyze the Mollie wagon because I invited Mollie and then I remember at least two people arguing this is scum Mollie and then voting her. That and me sleeping on it lent me to voting Mollie again which I know makes me look scummy, but I swear I am town. I believe one fis those two was BBT if memory serves me correctly, so that also pings me about him because I know I am town so it was likely scum seeing Mollie's wagon stalling and trying to revive it.

[Fro99er]

why your mind goes to that as a primary concerns takes some mental acrobatics

Not at all when you JUST saw it happen.

But hey, when I flip town you'll see that that's really what I thought of first. I can't help that I have an almost eidetic memory.