In post 99, Vedith wrote:That's 10/10 defence right there.
What gets me is if people always scum read you for your bad scum reads, why are you scum reading in this game rather than town reading.
Keeping in mind you don't get seen as scum much when you are town reading.
Yeah that's a good point, i don't know why i did that, nevertheless, i did, that still, doesn't equal i'm scum.
Now i'll ask you a question.
Considering we've verified that is true that when I scumhunt i get scumread more often than when i become obvtown by townhunting, why would my super awesome scum strategy be to come... and scumhunt?
So another thing i've been noticing, some ppl, pretty much pepto but i dont remember if i saw another one mention it.
Says that Tetaes is scum for agreeing with me, so since he's scumreading me, means everyone else is town, which is the people scumreading me.
This goes back to the faulty logic that "I'm right, therefore everyone that agrees with me is town and everyone that disagrees with me is scum", while we all would love that scum would be that obvious because games would be as easy as pushing someone and whoever defended them = scum, then town would win the vast majority of the games.
I'm pretty sure i don't have to point out why this isn't true, and if you think this is then you should go back to The road to rome and play more newbie games.
All that argument shows is that you have convinced yourself so much that im scum, that you're either (Scum that can't back off of a mislynch) or (Conf bias town), do i have to spell it out why both of these are bad?.
If i was scum my partner wouldn't have issue blending in in a bus, and since im town, im pretty sure i dont have to mention why there's a high chance the people voting me already are scum.
Anyway, as a last comment about my meta, i'm pretty sure you can already see why a lot of people hated me for it (Assume i'm town).
This will probably be the last time I use this playstyle, it is not fun for me, nor for the gamestate.
In post 102, Luna Fox wrote:So another thing i've been noticing, some ppl, pretty much pepto but i dont remember if i saw another one mention it.
Says that Tetaes is scum for agreeing with me, so since he's scumreading me, means everyone else is town, which is the people scumreading me.
This goes back to the faulty logic that "I'm right, therefore everyone that agrees with me is town and everyone that disagrees with me is scum", while we all would love that scum would be that obvious because games would be as easy as pushing someone and whoever defended them = scum, then town would win the vast majority of the games.
I'm pretty sure i don't have to point out why this isn't true, and if you think this is then you should go back to The road to rome and play more newbie games.
All that argument shows is that you have convinced yourself so much that im scum, that you're either (Scum that can't back off of a mislynch) or (Conf bias town), do i have to spell it out why both of these are bad?.
If i was scum my partner wouldn't have issue blending in in a bus, and since im town, im pretty sure i dont have to mention why there's a high chance the people voting me already are scum.
Scumlean=/=scumread. I never put any more weight behind it then "hey he's siding with someone who I think is scum". You're dramatically overstating my opinions.
In post 106, Luna Fox wrote:Anyway i'm the fox, a town even-night tracker, a role that can be easily verified.
Make of that what you will
So explain to me why you are role revealing at L2?
Short Explanation: To break the loop
Spoiler: Long Explanation
We've been circling around the reasoning and motivations of my vote on Bulge, to the point that this is now beating a dead horse, I've been trying to shift the discussion elsewhere for ages, and people keep looking back at it, i made the claim as a ways of a roleblock in the loop, because 1) People will believe my claim and move on or 2) They won't, but in either case, people now have something NEW to talk about and will stop beating a dead horse.
In post 108, Peptobislawl wrote:And a role that requires we keep you around till D3 to verify.
Either you believe the role, or you don't
This is a Black/White argument.
If you don't believe it, then lynch me today, it's obvious my presence is a distraction at this point.
If you believe the role, then stop voting me, and do something more productive.
In post 111, Vedith wrote:But how can we ever verify it rather than you saying - Yeah I checked the guy who died last night, he visited/didn't visit.
That would mean that we got unlucky, and town will lose unless you've lynched scum, because then that will be LyLo.
I never lie however, But i wouldn't want to go to the grave without claiming.
So despite of whether im actually town or scum, i am indeed an Even-Night Tracker.
Seriously Luna, you need to up your town comments if you are town...
UNVOTE: Luna
I think normally this is too much of a hasty reveal, but it doesn't fully surprise me with Luna.
Regardless, with that claim, she would obviously choose a Fox and due to other powers the power each night wouldn't be too justifiable.
In post 116, Luna Fox wrote:Anyway, now that you've unvoted me i got a question for you
Do you think my push on Bulge was because i legit had a scumread there, or to get us out of RVS.
Out of the 2 I would expect because you had a scum read even if it had no logic to it.
It was actually both, i did say i never lie, so if you were paying attention to my posts you'd know this.
I've mentioned both in Page 2 and why, in addition i mentioned how strong my read on Bulge was, the strength was "enough for a page 1 read", i'll leave to your interpretation how strong that means.
Anyway, who else are you scumreading/townreading, why?
In post 116, Luna Fox wrote:Anyway, now that you've unvoted me i got a question for you
Do you think my push on Bulge was because i legit had a scumread there, or to get us out of RVS.
Out of the 2 I would expect because you had a scum read even if it had no logic to it.
It was actually both, i did say i never lie, so if you were paying attention to my posts you'd know this.
I've mentioned both in Page 2 and why, in addition i mentioned how strong my read on Bulge was, the strength was "enough for a page 1 read", i'll leave to your interpretation how strong that means.
Anyway, who else are you scumreading/townreading, why?
You saying that you never lie is a pile of shit though. Hence my comment on it.
Well to say that I scum read someone when there's basically no activity in itself is just silly. I don't agree with you for the Bulge reason and neither do I agree with your town read on Dav (For the reasons only, not from my reasons, but I think Dav is town).
Apart from that, more involvement is needed to go forward.
In post 121, Peptobislawl wrote:I don't really buy a role that would take the magjority of the game to verify. It's a very conveniant role for you to have in your position.
In post 121, Peptobislawl wrote:I don't really buy a role that would take the magjority of the game to verify. It's a very conveniant role for you to have in your position.
VOTE: Luna to put you back at 3
Cool, let's keep helping scum kill PRs.
Then where should he vote?
Sell us something that is logical.
In post 121, Peptobislawl wrote:I don't really buy a role that would take the magjority of the game to verify. It's a very conveniant role for you to have in your position.
VOTE: Luna to put you back at 3
Cool, let's keep helping scum kill PRs.
Then where should he vote?
Sell us something that is logical.
