Micro 532: Anything UPick! (Day1)

[Davsto]

There is nothing alignment indicative in his posting.

There is alignment indicative in (correctly) outguessing the mod.

Nice nitpick though.

Reason I'm waiting for reads:

Who's to say you're not the scum in the pair?

[notscience]

Me.

[Vedith]

What if they are both scum and he's throwing bulge under the bus?

[notscience]

Why would I even bring up the topic then?

[notscience]

Rather, if we were both scum, why would I bother bringing this up as a push this early in the game?

Especially given the forewarning about how swingy the game is, it would be stupid for scum to bus.

[Davsto]

Me.

Excuse me if I don't take your word for it.

I'll wait for day to develop, read some shit, before I jump on this teeny tiny thread of stuff which could be indicative of the alignment of either of you.

PEdit that too a tiny bit but seriously I'm thinking both are town over both are scum. I wanna base it on reads over some setup spec-y bollocks based on two players having a similar post restriction.

[notscience]

My gut is telling me the luna wagon was so laughably bad that scum would avoid it like the plague.

My head says there's probably one scum on there.

[Peptobislawl]

What we need to do here is find the source of the problem and fix it.

@Peptobislawl - Can you explain why you don't believe Luna's over dramatic claim again?

She picked the first guy who random voted the same as someone else, assuming it was opportunistic to push a "wagon" that would go nowhere, apparently believing that scum could hide better on an RVS wagon than anywhere else during RVS. She then proceeded to defend this as a serious read despite all active players at the time telling her it doesn't make sense.

There is nothing alignment indicative in his posting.

There is alignment indicative in (correctly) outguessing the mod.

Nice nitpick though.

So you're assuming your guess is correct and working from there, rather than using evidence.

Good

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[notscience]

And you're assuming my spec isn't evidence.

Cool, Bulge/Pepto scumteam

This game was easy.

[Vedith]

She picked the first guy who random voted the same as someone else, assuming it was opportunistic to push a "wagon" that would go nowhere, apparently believing that scum could hide better on an RVS wagon than anywhere else during RVS. She then proceeded to defend this as a serious read despite all active players at the time telling her it doesn't make sense.

I get that... But why do you not believe her role claim?

[notscience]

Hey Vedith, what do you think of someone defending someone else who hasn't really done anything and trying to nitpick the push on him?

[Luna Fox]

UNVOTE: notscience

[Davsto]

And you're assuming my spec isn't evidence.

Cool, Bulge/Pepto scumteam

This game was easy.

Mmkay

So explain exactly why someone disagreeing with your read makes them scum?

[notscience]

Can you see any redeeming reason in bulge's ISO that would warrant this chainsaw from pepto?

[Peptobislawl]

She picked the first guy who random voted the same as someone else, assuming it was opportunistic to push a "wagon" that would go nowhere, apparently believing that scum could hide better on an RVS wagon than anywhere else during RVS. She then proceeded to defend this as a serious read despite all active players at the time telling her it doesn't make sense.

I get that... But why do you not believe her role claim?

Oh The ROLLCLAIM, sorry

It seems convenient, since she can only do it even nights, we'd have to wait till D3 to "easily verify" it. Honestly the only thing that makes me think Luna might be town is that scum wouldn't dare be so suicidal.


Notscience, I have a question for you. If we lynch bulge and he flips town, than according to your spec, you're the scum, correct?

[Peptobislawl]

also "calling out faulty logic =/= chainsaw defence.
I have a bus to catch, back in an hour

[Vedith]

Hey Vedith, what do you think of someone defending someone else who hasn't really done anything and trying to nitpick the push on him?

I mean, I can see his doubt to not go along with it, but the arguing part seems off. It's as if though he's writing the possibility off while Dav on the other hand seems to be keeping an open mind.

[notscience]

He won't flip town.

But sure, whatever you have to tell yourself to vote him.

[Davsto]

Can you see any redeeming reason in bulge's ISO that would warrant this chainsaw from pepto?

Do you see anything in Bulge's ISO that warrants scumreading him outside of this silly setup spec?

I know I shouldn't answer a question with a question but when we're barely a few days in and he has literally 7 posts so saying that "there's nothing in there townie so he must be scum" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Also, show me where this vote and suspicion is on you for you to call it a Chainsaw Defence because as far as I see he's just saying that your read is kinda silly.

[Vedith]

Oh The ROLLCLAIM, sorry

It seems convenient, since she can only do it even nights, we'd have to wait till D3 to "easily verify" it. Honestly the only thing that makes me think Luna might be town is that scum wouldn't dare be so suicidal.

Follow up question - How can we easily verify it on day 3?
I think that we should give her more credit to the fact that she would be a little more creative as scum. I've seen odd and even nights for roles enough to accept them. Does this seem un ordinary since we have 2 post restriction roles?

[notscience]

Chainsaw might not be the right term, but it is a rather aggressive defense.

And there's nothing townie in most of your ISO's, so I'm not qualifying it as that. I said "nothing alignment indicative" which is, in and of itself, something scummy as it is trying to limit people from reading him.

He hasn't actually commented on anything other than Luna all game when he isnt being post restricted.

Why did he avoid commenting on anything else?

[Luna Fox]

Oh The ROLLCLAIM, sorry

It seems convenient, since she can only do it even nights, we'd have to wait till D3 to "easily verify" it. Honestly the only thing that makes me think Luna might be town is that scum wouldn't dare be so suicidal.

Follow up question - How can we easily verify it on day 3?
I think that we should give her more credit to the fact that she would be a little more creative as scum. I've seen odd and even nights for roles enough to accept them. Does this seem un ordinary since we have 2 post restriction roles?

Btw im going to add that i could be lying about being an Even-Night tracker when im actually an Odd-Night tracker to fool scum in case they have a roleblocker.
If there's another Even/Odd-Night tracker (or another role i guess) then they would know, and i wouldn't put it past the existance of the other pair existing if we already got a pair of post restrictions, I would however disagree that one of them has to be necessarily scum, but it's this kind of setup spec i'd expect from town notscience.

[Luna Fox]

Also idk why i quoted that.

[Davsto]

Look at Ere's three posts.

I think it's fair to say that they haven't made any alignment indicative posts, right? You can't honestly expect a player to be obviously aligned within 7 posts.

I can't say why he "avoided commenting on anything else" because I'm not psychic, but my guess is it wasn't intentional, just at the time the whole Luna thing was sort of, you know, the biggest thing there.


ftr your insistence of this setup spec is townleany imo because scum!science would totally be avoiding this because he would probably know that he'd be the next to be lynched if Bulge flipped town (yeh that whole "what if you're the scum" was more a rhetoric than anything else), but I think it's wrong.

I tend to avoid reading into setup-spec unless it's something like "look town have 7 supercool power roles apparently while all scum have flipped Goons so I think it's fair to say one of these supercool power roles is lying and is actually the scum." I prefer action and reading reads.

pity i suck at them then

[Vedith]

Also idk why i quoted that.

Probably shocked that I'm not calling you scum for once?