Open 608: Jungle Republic - A jungle is conquered(game over)

[Vedith]

I guess it would depends on the status of the last 2.
I would assume a scum win there as scum won't vote each other but neither town will know each other?

Pedit - I was too slow.

[Titus]

Role PMs are in first post and 2 v 2 is scum win.

If NM is WW.

3 v 2 is mylo. 4 v 2 is another day at the office.

[DeasVail]

@Deas Vail, why did you deflect instead of answering what you're doing to fix your lack of read on not mafia?

That was my serious answer. He's refusing to engage properly so as town or scum he doesn't care. I don't see anything worth doing to fix my read on him right now. I can't make his posts suddenly alignment-relevant to me, and I don't have any questions for him that I consider worth asking. I still think shaddow is scum but that's obviously not happening today. Not_mafia very well could be mafia though and in that case I'd quite earnestly ask you to think twice before turbo-lynching me. I very much doubt that I would behave this way as scum.

[Vedith]

Can we just lynch NM and see what results are given tonight?
This game is honestly going no where and too many people are stalling without reason.

[shaddowez]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

Hi DV let's talk

[DeasVail]

Hey!

Sorry for being so late.

[ZZZX]

Vote Count

Not_Mafia (5) - Shiro, Vedith, Firebringer, Titus, Shaddowez (L-0)
DeasVail (0) -
shaddowez (1) - DeasVail
Firebringer (1) - Not_Mafia

Not Voting (1) - Wanderer-nl

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

NotMafia got lynched and flipped Vanilla Townie

Night ends in (expired on 2015-10-02 07:13:39)

[ZZZX]

Day comes and bodies go...

And another

Wanderer who was a vanilla townie bites the dust...

Alive:
Shiro
Vedith
Firebringer
Titus
Shaddowez
DeasVail



With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
The day shall be (expired on 2015-10-14 15:51:11)

[shaddowez]

VOTE: Titus

Last WW. Sheep me.

[Shiro]

VOTE: Titus

Last WW. Sheep me.

Ok

1st why so sure ?

2nd Why sheep you ?

[shaddowez]

Oh I think it's an alright theory, and for that stage of the game it was better than anything else I had. I just didn't see it as giving a super strong indication of alignment.

I see

. Interested in what else you think about him, and also looking for your info on Vedith.

[Titus]

VOTE: Shaddowez

You don't see at all.

[Firebringer]

I am very hesitant to put my vote on anyone right now.
I feel like town already lost without a cross kill happening.

We actually need WW alive right now to kill.

[Titus]

....FB your math is so wrong.

[Firebringer]

....FB your math is so wrong.

My math is never wrong!

[Titus]

Ok, why do we need WW alive?

[Titus]

I am going to school you in a bit, ten I will show my crumb.

[shaddowez]

Here's the thing, Titus - I don't care if you try to cc me or not. Why?

Let's say town believes you and they lynch me. You have a 50/50 chance of killing scum tonight, you get speed lynched tomorrow(your faction loses), and I can still win with town in LYLO.

Even if you get town tonight, you'll still get lynched tomorrow and lose.

So, give it your best shot.

[Titus]

That math is also wrong. Today is the only day we can lynch the WW and win still unless they fuck up.

We lynch me (the real seer) tonight, you no kill.

That leaves 3 not mafia, versus 2 mafia. If we lynch you then, mafia wins. So we can't. You win as long as you keep the sides even.

The gambit of being the first to post to target the real seer was your last ditch effort to secure a win.

Guess what, you failed.


Think if you had killed the actual seer, you couldn't pull this gambit at all. You'd have to gamble on a town lynch without arrowing the field to two.

[Titus]

@Shiro, isn't that analysis true for any player in the game?

Why not lynch Wanderer or Vedith?

I know you don't bite, so why NM as a policy today?

My WW crumb. Shiro was not ww as he doesn't bite.

[Titus]

* WW cop crumb

[shaddowez]

I think you need to read my post better - WW team loses either way, there's a chance of town winning though it's not guaranteed.

One of us (me) is the real seer - whichever one gets lynched first will result in the second being speedlynched if they're wrong. Either way, WW loses, so gambiting to try and reveal the real seer would be dumb. As I said earlier, lynch me if you want, I know you die next and will still lose.

[Titus]

You're trying to mock that I am in a weak position. If we don't lynch you today, we can't lynch you tomorrow.

After you mislynch me, you'd have

Town
Town
Werewolf
Mafia
Mafia

Town won't vote to lynch you there, as it hands mafia the win.

Try to bluster your way through the math, but it's unavoidable.

I love it when a plan comes together.

[Titus]

It's mafia's move right now. Which do they believe and do they value the nk? No lynch can go through without them.