Tarot uPick II - GAME OVER

[Wisdom]

and in fact brantz moved ika to null in the reads he gave in the neighborhood

[Perpetual Nonsense]

Vedith's play at the end of yesterday was pretty bad. I don't buy that governor has to be a town role.

Thinking back, it's possible aj is scum and considering at the end of day zelink was seeming to start suspecting him, so he also makes sense for that kill.

I wish I knew what type of player brantz is. I don't have time to meta right now, but I'm not ruling out that just because he pushed someone they're town as I've seen traitors push their masters here and bus the fuck out of them.

I do think ika is probably town irregardless of that though.

An extreme example is Agar who likes to bus.

He as traitor (we didn't know his identity - I can't remember if we were aware of a traitor's existence) literally bussed the entire scum team including me hard in an old Harry Potter game

[Tammy]

Vedith's play at the end of yesterday was pretty bad. I don't buy that governor has to be a town role.

Thinking back, it's possible aj is scum and considering at the end of day zelink was seeming to start suspecting him, so he also makes sense for that kill.

I wish I knew what type of player brantz is. I don't have time to meta right now, but I'm not ruling out that just because he pushed someone they're town as I've seen traitors push their masters here and bus the fuck out of them.

I do think ika is probably town irregardless of that though.

I thought that Muffin's reasoning for Vedith being town based on him questioning whether he could use it on himself was pretty good - you disagree?

No, that reasoning is fine, but it's an assumption to think that makes him town. Remember that really great reason I had to town read scum in smite? I feel like that reasoning to town read vedith is along similar lines. His play at the end of day was concerning.

[Wisdom]

No, he voted him though. I thought someone was clearing ika because of that, maybe it was anenin?

im kinda feeling better about kuroko because of brantz's push on him, but that's different in that he called me vs kuroko scum vs scum and then focused on kuroko, while if kuroko was his buddy he could push me instead

[Tammy]

Oh that was it!

I knew it was someone. (I have a bit of a hangover today. Don't mind me.)

[Kamigami]

I think Brantz pushing Wisdom/KN at the same time suggests that both Wis and KN are town.

I want to lynch in Brantz's null/void reads today. (his 1st read list, not the second)

[Oil Tycoons]

No, that reasoning is fine, but it's an assumption to think that makes him town. Remember that really great reason I had to town read scum in smite? I feel like that reasoning to town read vedith is along similar lines. His play at the end of day was concerning.

Why was his end of day play concerning?

I think that him giving Wisdom shit is hilarious and would rather not lynch him as a result.

[Wisdom]

Town: Luna, Grandpa Oil, Tammy, WallofFire

Neutral: Ika Zaru, Medea, Klingon, Pisskop, Fluff, Zelink, Idiocy, Konowa

Scummy: Kuroko, Wisdom

People who others seem to have a much better read on that I need to iso (more to remind myself to do this than anything else): Kamigami, AJ, Perpetual Nonsense, ProHawk, Muki, Anein.

this is the first list. he has two tiers of null though (probably has scum in both)

[Oil Tycoons]

I think Brantz pushing Wisdom/KN at the same time suggests that both Wis and KN are town.

I want to lynch in Brantz's null/void reads today. (his 1st read list, not the second)

Wanna lynch Idiocy with me?

Wisdom, what looks town about farside's posts?

[Oil Tycoons]

Town: Luna, Grandpa Oil, Tammy, WallofFire

Neutral:

Ika Zaru

, Medea,

Klingon

,

Pisskop

, Fluff, Zelink,

Idiocy

, Konowa

Scummy: Kuroko, Wisdom

People who others seem to have a much better read on that I need to iso (more to remind myself to do this than anything else): Kamigami, AJ, Perpetual Nonsense, ProHawk, Muki, Anein.

this is the first list. he has two tiers of null though (probably has scum in both)

[Kamigami]

ns, can you give me post-by-post summary of the neighborhood?

I think it would be pretty low-yield but Kagami

insists

that I request one, and I don't want to make her mad so

[Wisdom]

what doesn't? it just feels like normal farside?

[Tammy]

No, that reasoning is fine, but it's an assumption to think that makes him town. Remember that really great reason I had to town read scum in smite? I feel like that reasoning to town read vedith is along similar lines. His play at the end of day was concerning.

Why was his end of day play concerning?

I think that him giving Wisdom shit is hilarious and would rather not lynch him as a result.

It just didn't feel right. I'm not really interested in lynching him today anyway. I do want my concern out there before I forget it though.

I think Klingon, pisskop or aj would be much better targets for today anyway. I see your point about idiocy and I'm mulling that over but feeling really lazy right now and don't want to go back and read anything right now. That and I don't have much time right now, so I'm putting it off.

[Bacde]

Town: Luna, Grandpa Oil, Tammy, WallofFire

Neutral:

Ika Zaru

, Medea,

Klingon

,

Pisskop

, Fluff, Zelink,

Idiocy

, Konowa

Scummy: Kuroko, Wisdom

People who others seem to have a much better read on that I need to iso (more to remind myself to do this than anything else): Kamigami, AJ, Perpetual Nonsense, ProHawk, Muki, Anein.

this is the first list. he has two tiers of null though (probably has scum in both)

So you think that Brantz knew who his partners were?

[ProHawk]

Wisdom, are you trying to scum hunt in Brantzs last?

Fire guy. We can't be friends.

I could vote AJ. Actually good idea.

VOTE: AJ

[Wisdom]

fakegod requested that list, and i agree that brantz probably had scum in his null reads

[Kamigami]

Town: Luna, Grandpa Oil, Tammy, WallofFire

Neutral:

Ika Zaru

, Medea,

Klingon

,

Pisskop

, Fluff, Zelink,

Idiocy

, Konowa

Scummy: Kuroko, Wisdom

People who others seem to have a much better read on that I need to iso (more to remind myself to do this than anything else): Kamigami, AJ, Perpetual Nonsense, ProHawk, Muki, Anein.

this is the first list. he has two tiers of null though (probably has scum in both)

So you think that Brantz knew who his partners were?

I think either Brantz knew who his partners were, or his partners knew of Brantz's identity, but not both.

I doubt that the latter is case and the anen flash wagon was some kind of heroic effort by the scum team to save their JOAT.

Which would be hilarious, but this game can't be that easy.

[Wisdom]

what do you mean "their joat"? he was just a traitor, no?

[Kamigami]

If we buy into the latter theory, then this post, the JOAT claim:

I am the Tower Reversed, Town JoaT. I have 4 1-shot abilities: Roleblock, Doctor, Tracker, Jailkeeper. My role also says that other players abilities may change what I do during the game.

becomes some kind of SOS call by Brantz, who is basically showing his entire hand to the scum team and asking them for help.

Scum team then obliges and tries to save him with a flash wagon.

[Wisdom]

but he didn't flip joat?

[Bacde]

yeah i dont recall a joat flip is this a slip my friends????????????

[Bacde]

hmmmmm???????????????

[Kamigami]

I've had several questions come in today about flip information. Flips will reveal alignment and role name - the "You are a ...." sentence in your role PMs. In some cases, role names may suggest abilities, e.g., "4-Shot Jaywalker", and in other cases, they may not, e.g., "Left Handed Smoke Shifter".

Specific to the Day 1 flip, type of traitor is not revealed, nor are any abilities the role may or may not have possessed.

ffery isn't doing full flips.

[Wisdom]

oh yeah. i recall reading that but i forgot

[Kamigami]

yeah i dont recall a joat flip is this a slip my friends????????????

Please explain, tomato person.

Wis, stay out of this for a sec.