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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:18 pm

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In post 1399, Titus wrote:Luna,

Something like "Skybird is not Evil Faction A" is not a possibility.

Double negaitve, does that imply skybird is evil faction A?
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:19 pm

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Also i wonder what's the opinion on both FN's messages being different.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:26 pm

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Is he perhaps not a friendly neighbor? I explicitly got his role.

Mailman pops into mind as a role possibility, but mailman generally is clarified not to be written by the mod.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:36 pm

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Thing is that i don't remember friendly neighbors specifically mentioning their role to their target, just that they are town.
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:36 pm

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Like it usually comes in the message of "Hi, i'm -playername- and i'm town" or something like that.
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:39 pm

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The best solution i can think for this is to have both friendly neighbors target someone together, and have the doctor protect that person, unfortunately im not sure whether this would help.
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:43 pm

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In post 1400, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1399, Titus wrote:Luna,

Something like "Skybird is not Evil Faction A" is not a possibility.

Double negaitve, does that imply skybird is evil faction A?


No.

I will rephrase. FNs saying "Skybird is not evil faction A" are impossible.
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:44 pm

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I'm not sure i understand, but the mafiawiki says that FN is necessarily town (if the claim is true that is)
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:57 pm

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In post 1405, Luna Fox wrote:The best solution i can think for this is to have both friendly neighbors target someone together, and have the doctor protect that person, unfortunately im not sure whether this would help.


If AJ's town that's setting him up for failure.
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:00 pm

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In post 1407, Luna Fox wrote:I'm not sure i understand, but the mafiawiki says that FN is necessarily town (if the claim is true that is)

One isfake if the PMs are different.
Town-aligned Friendly Neighbor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. Messages sent on behalf of a Friendly Neighbor must be identical.


From the wiki.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:00 pm

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In post 1406, Titus wrote:
In post 1400, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1399, Titus wrote:Luna,

Something like "Skybird is not Evil Faction A" is not a possibility.

Double negaitve, does that imply skybird is evil faction A?


No.

I will rephrase. FNs saying "Skybird is not evil faction A" are impossible.



Omg thats not how a FN works.

FN states that he is town.

Molla isnt changing that.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:10 pm

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In post 1402, Aj The Epic wrote:Is he perhaps not a friendly neighbor? I explicitly got his role.

Mailman pops into mind as a role possibility, but mailman generally is clarified not to be written by the mod.


This sounds like Drug Dealer or Unscrupulous Messenger. Both roles in my Don't Trust Titus Setup.
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:13 pm

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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:19 pm

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Normals can have up to 2 variant roles.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:22 pm

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In post 1408, Titus wrote:
In post 1405, Luna Fox wrote:The best solution i can think for this is to have both friendly neighbors target someone together, and have the doctor protect that person, unfortunately im not sure whether this would help.


If AJ's town that's setting him up for failure.

So far we have 2 different claims for what the PM states.

One state player name and town, other states player name, role and town :/
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:22 pm

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In post 1409, Titus wrote:
In post 1407, Luna Fox wrote:I'm not sure i understand, but the mafiawiki says that FN is necessarily town (if the claim is true that is)

One isfake if the PMs are different.
Town-aligned Friendly Neighbor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. Messages sent on behalf of a Friendly Neighbor must be identical.


From the wiki.

Sigh. The above post was supposed to go with this quote.

I meant to ask in the above - Why does that set him up for failure?
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:23 pm

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Lying to players is out so DD is out.
New/variant roles may be included in limited number (no more than 1 in a Mini, 2 in a Large), and should be based on the usual role mechanics: Killing, Protecting, Investigating, Blocking, Voting, Enabling and Communication.

@AJ, Did the role knowledge come in the same PM as the alignment confirmation?
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:24 pm

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In post 1411, Titus wrote:
In post 1402, Aj The Epic wrote:Is he perhaps not a friendly neighbor? I explicitly got his role.

Mailman pops into mind as a role possibility, but mailman generally is clarified not to be written by the mod.


This sounds like Drug Dealer or Unscrupulous Messenger. Both roles in my Don't Trust Titus Setup.

Don't really care what is sounds like - they both explicitly claimed FN.
If one is a lie then it would not have come from town...
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:25 pm

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In post 1415, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 1409, Titus wrote:
In post 1407, Luna Fox wrote:I'm not sure i understand, but the mafiawiki says that FN is necessarily town (if the claim is true that is)

One isfake if the PMs are different.
Town-aligned Friendly Neighbor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. Messages sent on behalf of a Friendly Neighbor must be identical.


From the wiki.

Sigh. The above post was supposed to go with this quote.

I meant to ask in the above - Why does that set him up for failure?


If AJ is honest, scum have a strongman or RB so he will fail in protecting the target and look scummy.
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:39 pm

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In post 1416, Titus wrote:Lying to players is out so DD is out.
New/variant roles may be included in limited number (no more than 1 in a Mini, 2 in a Large), and should be based on the usual role mechanics: Killing, Protecting, Investigating, Blocking, Voting, Enabling and Communication.

@AJ, Did the role knowledge come in the same PM as the alignment confirmation?


Same pm. The message was just as I stated.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:46 pm

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In post 1387, Aj The Epic wrote:There's almost no way to paraphrase the message.

Playername, rolename , is town.

Literally the only paraphrase I can do of it.


You didn't state the role PM here?
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:47 pm

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– Sky, what about CDB’s play, makes you scumread him?


@Aj in d1, you’ve been saying I posted unsubstantial things, you mentioned that I’ve “constantly responded to posts directed (at me) only” when I’ve addressed others in d1, you were pushing hard to mislynch me in d1, you’re still believing that I’m scum in d2, and your farfetched role reveal along with a 2nd FN role reveal.

Seeing as others have more experience than I do in large games - new information coming out about the setup - I 'm putting my vote on hold. Also, there's plenty of time to make a decision.
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:54 pm

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Much like the anticipation of the next thrilling twist in new movie, The Gift, I'm still awaiting your reply to my questions , Vee
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:55 pm

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In post 1420, Titus wrote:
In post 1387, Aj The Epic wrote:There's almost no way to paraphrase the message.

Playername, rolename , is town.

Literally the only paraphrase I can do of it.


You didn't state the role PM here?


It's a friendly neighbor.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:00 pm

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So does it state

Player name is town or Player name is town FN?
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