Open 608: Jungle Republic - A jungle is conquered(game over)

[Shiro]

Damn talk about a hectic situation

[Shiro]

I am more inclined to believe yandere-chan tbh.

Her crump really seems legit and her reasoning is solid plus I have been scumreading shadowz.

Agh this is hard. Where is your input people?

Titus what happens If we try to lynch mafia today and sort you two tomorrow. Does that help at all or far too risky?

[DeasVail]

Between Titus and Shaddow, Titus' crumb is lots more legit and overall I'm just pretty sure it's Shaddow. Shaddow if you have anything you want to say that you think could convince me otherwise, go for it.

As for what should be done today.

Lynching WW today, would result in a 5p LYLO. Not completely terrible. I have a feeling I'd be lynched but maybe that's too pessimistic.

Lynching Seer today (I'm pretty sure that's Titus and I'm not going to support a lynch on her, but I'll cover it anyway), results in 2 Town, 2 Mafia 1 WW. Not great for town, but possible maybe? My guess would be that WW tries to shoot mafia and then mafia + WW stalemate with town to get a no lynch and then WW shoots town to get a 1 town, 1 mafia, 1 WW situation. I don't know if that's how it would work, but that's my best guess.

Lynching mafia today ----> 3 Town (incl. seer), 1 Mafia, 1 WW. Assuming Shaddow is the WW here, then he'd be pretty much forced to try shooting town in order to prevent insta-loss, and then we could lynch the WW (prob Shaddow), for a 3P LYLO. This assumes we get the mafia today though.

Lynching non-Seer town today would be much the same as lynching seer probably, which is a situation I'd like to avoid.

To me whether we try to lynch mafia or WW seems to be pretty equivalent. We have to not lynch town anymore in either case. If I had to say a preference I'd go with lynching shaddow since I'm pretty sure that's a known safe lynch and I like to procrastinate making difficult decisions, but I'm pretty open.

[Titus]

Let's look at the math.

4 not mafia v 2 mafia

If we hit a mafia, then it really depends on the nks. If ww crosskills, we're ok (3 town v 1 ww, game in lylo with scum not being able to hammer. If ww hits town, then we have 2 town, 1 ww, and one mafia. Same situation today and we have to lynch the ww. If the ww no kills, then 3 town v 1 ww v 1 mafia. That gives us breathing room, so that won't happen.

TLDR: If we lynch mafia today, the game becomes lylo and we have to hit ww.

If we Mislynch, we shift to 2 town v 1 ww v 2 mafia. Ww no kills (same if we lynched seer). Shadowez and I must work together to find the last townie. Game is in triple lylo, must lynch both mafia and then solve me versus shadow. Of course, if we lynch a mafia with 2 town alive, the ww may kill town creating a 1 v 1 v 1, which could cause a ww win. Then again if ww cross kills, game hits lylo.

Tldr: if we mislynch, we have to lynch mafia and possibly get lucky on the kills. Someone should verify my math here.

I think it's too risky, and I doubt mafia will vote elsewhere. If we wanted to lynch mafia today, shaddowez and I must agree (6 alive, 4 to lynch) along with the remaining townies. It'll be hard to lynch mafia rather than the 50/50 chance to lynch ww today.

[Shiro]

VOTE:shadow

I believe Yandere-chan.

She is really town in comparison.

[Titus]

What does Yandere-chan mean? It's a compliment I think, so thank you.

[Shiro]

Your avatar is yandere-chan. That her name xD

[Titus]

Ether made it. Lol. It looked good.

[Vedith]

I can go with a Shadow vote.
If we hit WW... Then we just no Vote every day until scum just give up and change their ways...

VOTE: Shadow

[Shiro]

Ether made it. Lol. It looked good.

Spoiler:

This is Yandere-chan. She would kill anyone that dares get near her senpai.

Spoiler:

This is how she shows that her love is stronger ^_^

[Firebringer]

I can go with a Shadow vote.
If we hit WW... Then we just no Vote every day until scum just give up and change their ways...

VOTE: Shadow

Then fire magically appears with a hammer.

VOTE: Shadowez

Did you guys need this?

[shaddowez]

Well done all. Enjoy your loss, town

[Titus]

We might win.

[ZZZX]

Alive:
Shiro
Vedith
Firebringer
Titus: shaddowez

Shaddowez: Titus, Shiro, Vedith, Firebringer (L-0)

DeasVail



With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
The day shall be (expired on 2015-10-14 15:51:11)

Shaddowez was lynched brutally in the jungle...

and he was:
.
.
.

Shaddowez was Town Seer!

Nigh 5 begins now. Actions in (expired on 2015-10-05 22:47:58)

[ZZZX]

A quite day approaches. And none are found dead.
Alive:
Shiro
Vedith
Firebringer
Titus:
DeasVail



With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch
The day shall be (expired on 2015-10-18 22:27:14)

[Titus]

Yeah, I claim werewolf. I have hammer. Mathematically mafia had to be on the shaddowez wagon so we should lynch there.

I would also ask if you just let me auto accelerate night when I make up my mind since I have the only night actions.

[DeasVail]

Hmmm,

Mod

: What happens if we no lynch and no kill still occurs?

[Shiro]

VOTE:No Lynch

Wolf was the first to take no action so the burden of taking one falls on them. That would be my guess. Voting anything as town other than no lynch is playing against your wincon

[Titus]

@Shiro, Funny how you try to force a no lynch when I put the wagon suspicion on you. I am good at high pressure sales darling. But here, I will humor you and ask the right question for you...

Is there a happily ever after condition mod? If so, what triggers it and what are the consequences?

Second, there's zero harm in scumhunting while we wait to make sure that I don't double shoot town if I must move first darling.

[Shiro]

@Shiro, Funny how you try to force a no lynch when I put the wagon suspicion on you. I am good at high pressure sales darling. But here, I will humor you and ask the right question for you...

Is there a happily ever after condition mod? If so, what triggers it and what are the consequences?

Second, there's zero harm in scumhunting while we wait to make sure that I don't double shoot town if I must move first darling.

You put the suspicion on me? I think I missed that. Saying that I am one of 3 possible mafia candidates really isn't much of a pressure. Only Dv wasn't on the wagon and there are two mafia left. I call that stating the obvious

Scumhunting is good but not now. The less info you have the more chances your mishap a kill(which town needs) If you manage to keep sides balanced it is over.

Let's be honest you don't care what you lynch tonight. You just want a good idea of who is who so you don't screw up your kill

[Shiro]

Here is my question to you Titus

I suggest town only no lynches
This will end the game in a draw.

So Titus will you accept a draw or try and hit scum at night in hopes that mafia will take you to town kingmaker scenario?

[Firebringer]

Wow. The twist in this game.

No Lynch

[Titus]

@Shiro, And how do you think that

everyone

won't lose in a draw?

The less info I have, the more likely I am to misfire and hit town, not scum.

[Titus]

Scum win if I shoot and hit town as half the living players would be mafia. We cannot no lynch.

[Titus]

Town would be depending on me to hit mafia. Yet by reaching for the cookie jar, you may have just handed me the game but for FB being impossible to read.

Forcing me to shoot without info is bad.