Mini 1727: Legends of the Hidden Temple II - Game Over!

Titus · Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:18 am

In post 8, Davsto wrote:
First

second dammit fire

THIRD GDI SHIRO
dammit I give up with this.

Now I must sleep but first

VOTE: Salamence pre-emptively, knowing that he will use Gambler's Fallacy at some point in this game.

VOTE: davesto

Voting people because they will be bad is fear mongerring and scummy.

Titus · Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:48 am

Voting is good for reactions to investigate whether a challenge is warranted. Of course it doesn't actually lynch. Look at the first game.

Titus · Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:58 am

For the same reasons anyone reacts to votes to lynch, being challenged is the first step to being lynched.

Titus · Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:03 pm

I just read the first couple pages. RVS went on forever. Best to cut to the chase.

Titus · Post Post #113 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:26 pm

In post 73, Salamence20 wrote:So I know Titus is going to speedlynch Fire so Im not having any part of it.

Im not going to stop her either

And why would I do that? What makes you think I would?

Firebringer has actually let me play on day 1.

Titus · Post Post #119 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:33 pm

@sal my question please

Titus · Post Post #128 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:39 pm

In post 120, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 113, Titus wrote:
In post 73, Salamence20 wrote:So I know Titus is going to speedlynch Fire so Im not having any part of it.

Im not going to stop her either

And why would I do that? What makes you think I would?

Firebringer has actually let me play on day 1.

Because fire was stupid to narrow the lynch on people that arent even here yet.

Did you and your partner swap roles or what?

Differing strategies is not turbo lynch worthy.

Maybe we swapped brains.

Titus · Post Post #130 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:39 pm

In post 127, Firebringer wrote:I will tell you this right now, if me and vedith both survive this.

I am challenging a team again right after.
I am leaning on challenging the Green Monkeys right now.

Maybe that's not the best idea.

Titus · Post Post #134 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:41 pm

In post 126, Salamence20 wrote:Imma get drunk. Lets see how this goes.

Dude, that's my job.

Who am I in this thread?

Titus · Post Post #137 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:43 pm

In post 131, Firebringer wrote:I will consider how well this lynch goes, then process it.
I am open to changing my mind, though I have plans.

Gotta be somewhat adaptable.

What reads do you have?

Titus · Post Post #148 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:51 pm

In post 138, Suzune wrote:
In post 136, Kaito Kirishima wrote:
In post 125, Suzune wrote:In my opinion Shiro, Firebringer plays fast and loose. I think there is a possibility he would do it to come off as a town read. As I explained in another game, people rarely double think early reads so getting ahead early is the goal of any mafia.

I just don't understand most reads, maybe because I see everything having both a townie and scummy reason.
All actions have an intended reaction. The trick is seeing what causes the most ripples. Remembering it and drawing on it when you need it.

Or you can try trial and error. See something scummy and push on it.

This game is too fast for me even.

Titus · Post Post #166 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:47 pm

In post 163, VysePresident wrote:Are we already freaking challenged?

The mod hadn't sent me the bloody link.

Welcome to my day 1 world. It feels weird knowing I am safe.

Titus · Post Post #172 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:03 pm

In post 169, Salamence20 wrote:Ok Titus is realllllllllyyyyyyyy bugging me now.

Because you can't lynch me.

Titus · Post Post #173 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:04 pm

In post 171, BBmolla wrote:vyse is being kind of scummy in our team chat btw

This is nothing without context.

Titus · Post Post #180 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:05 pm

Elbrin talk to me in the hood. I need to sleep, but I want to test your theory. I don't think FB's scum, but maybe we can devise something to make his alignment obvious. I need a new method that doesn't depend on conflict anyway so...

Titus · Post Post #185 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:14 pm

Are there any other good points to be aware of?

Titus · Post Post #187 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:19 pm

@FB, And we know that how?

If we did challenges after wagons formed organically, most likely everyone would think there was at least some town motivation.

Right now, you've appointed yourself a dictator that nobody wants.

Titus · Post Post #189 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:23 pm

Not the right response.

You can not like someone who is town. Right now, all you're doing is promoting apathy.

It becomes a race to the keyboard to get your scumreads lynched. Hell scumhunting half the game is impossible because they won't fear being lynched today.

You just make everyone want to lynch you. Then what? What do we learn if we lynch you?

Titus · Post Post #191 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:29 pm

Firebringer, you are promoting apathy for everyone

but yourself

.

What incentive is there to do any of that? Let's say I can make a rock solid case on Sal. I can't get him lynched.

On the other end, a scumread you can't lynch is easy to confbias. People start reaching that read to fit in their pools.

Then, town and scum race to challenge before firebringer removes the chance.

Not a good situation for us as a whole.

Titus · Post Post #196 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:42 pm

VOTE: Firebringer

Your total inability to consider the feelings of other players is stunning and from me that's saying something.

Titus · Post Post #200 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:43 pm

I am off to bed. Later.

Titus · Post Post #235 (isolation #21) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:11 am

In post 223, Salamence20 wrote:Titus is scum.

She took way too long to vote firebringer.

Like damn, really?

No. I didn't vote him solely because I disagreed with him but rather because his defense made no sense.

I would rather be voting you, but that's not an option.

You can't defend FB's actions so you attack me instead

Titus · Post Post #236 (isolation #22) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:12 am

In post 234, Salamence20 wrote:Town as fuck:
Firebringer
Salamence
BBMolla

Meh:
Davsto/PB (We need to lynch PB asap)
VP
Elbirn
Kaito

Scum:
Suzie
Shiro
Titus
Vedith

If you think you have the game figured out, why lynch PB asap?

Titus · Post Post #237 (isolation #23) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:14 am

In post 227, Vedith wrote:What's up Sala, am I voting your scum buddy?

I didn't see your vote counting. Only me and Elbrin.

Second, we should lynch Sal regardless of what FB flips IMO.

Attack easy targets rather than anyone lynchable causing distractions. Scumread anyone who disagrees.

Titus · Post Post #240 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:30 am

@Shiro, You might want to revisit that.

@Sal, That "stall" your talking about. It's called investigation. That thing you seem to be lacking. You just attack anyone suspecting FB as scum. If I am wrong and FB is town, this is a terrible white knight.

The only reason to think FB was town was based on meta, but people can shake that up. Your ridiculous level of confidence is scummy.

Your attempts to interfere with my interrogation of FB are scummy.

When are you going to actually scumhunt?

Titus · Post Post #242 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:09 am

If that's the case, why aren't you voting him?

I don't go around voting people solely due to them being suboptimal. You're just attacking anyone who has something negative to say about FB. This is repeating itself.

Titus · Post Post #244 (isolation #26) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:21 am

@Sal, "Wow, we both know that FB cannot defend his scummy act, so he must be town." Really?

You know I haven't. I have scum here. The rest haven't come to play yet. I don't have to arbitrarily mention certain players and not others. I got scum. I lynch scum.

Whine about me not helping you Mislynch later. You want them discussed, you start the discussion.

Oh wait, can you actually scumhunt?

Titus · Post Post #249 (isolation #27) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:33 am

Wrong order. Fire's scum for the reasons I already said. End of analysis. I only got one vote.

You see, you're wanting me to say something that you can pick at. I am not helping you. Read my posts. Engage them. You want a mislynch. Come up with your own reasons rather than trying to route everything through an allegation I am scum.

When I said, start a conversation, I meant you start the conversation.

Titus · Post Post #250 (isolation #28) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:34 am

In post 246, Shiro wrote:While I am sure this 1v1 might be really enlightening it is frankly pretty useless and will clog the thread and any potential scum in the 4 will use it to hide behind.

So can we like not mess up our priorities?

This is what I was trying to say, but less well.

Titus · Post Post #252 (isolation #29) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:39 am

@Kaito, Your vote is missing there. Let's see how FB reacts under pressure.

Titus · Post Post #255 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:46 am

@Kaito, are you Mastina? Catchups that ignore what's happening are a Mastina staple.

Titus · Post Post #258 (isolation #31) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:51 am

@Sal, Totally missed the point.

I got scum. Unless someone else comes along and makes a better case, I am staying here. Right now, you're applying a Titus is scum/wrong filter and just tearing down what I saw. You want a new suspect, you say why. I am not providing anything for you to nitpick or spam the thread with.

#safety abuse

Also, I do note the comment that you implicitly said you have zero respect for my town game as you seem to think I vote stupid rather than voting scum.

Titus · Post Post #260 (isolation #32) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:52 am

That last paragraph of mine is generous as fuck BTW.

Titus · Post Post #263 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:57 am

@Kaito, Being Mastina/Bulbazak isn't a problem but a compliment. That is unless you're scum and then it's an oh shit.

You said you're new to MS. Have you played elsewhere online?

Titus · Post Post #265 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:00 am

In post 262, Salamence20 wrote:So Titus.

1. Do you think those three are town because FB is scum?
2. Why was FB not scummy for initiating the challenge?

Stop asking the same question and expecting a different response. FB is scum. End of Analysis.

FB has a meta of not doing jackshit I had to review for Open 608. It was enough where if he put forth a consistent plausible reason, I would have been fine with him. He didn't.

Titus · Post Post #268 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:05 am

@Kaito, No one is asking you to...

Links to those games? I like to get in people's heads to see if they are consistent.

@Sal, Yelling like a spoiled brat isn't scumhunting. Yelling is the least effective method to get me to do anything.

You know this.

Control yourself and make a case on Vedith if you want her lynched.

Titus · Post Post #270 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:10 am

@Sal, I said FB is scum. End of Analysis. Burden is on you if you want me to change. This is going in circles.

Titus · Post Post #271 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:12 am

@Davesto, Just read my interaction with FB. He's a scum in the four. Don't really get why you're voting Vedith.

Titus · Post Post #273 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:25 am

@Davesto, Why don't you? If you think I am voting town, then why not try to persuade me to vote scum?

Titus · Post Post #276 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:29 am

@Kaito, Thanks.

@Dave, Differing approaches. To me, pushing reveals alignment.

Titus · Post Post #278 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:33 am

@Dave, OK, but what is yours? There's a difference between not dominating and not speaking up.

Titus · Post Post #282 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:47 am

That's fine. You still have to push a little, particularly if you think Sal and I are dominating.

I do agree it sounds a little forced but I think it's townish forcing. Vedith and FB seem to always scumread each other according to the sign up thread. So I think he's trying to force a different mindset.

Titus · Post Post #286 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:08 am

@Davesto, And I do think the conclusion you're drawing here isn't scummy, just wrong. Usually town Vedith isn't forced but usually Vedith and FB scumread each other a lot.

Titus · Post Post #288 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:16 am

In post 287, Shiro wrote:
In post 286, Titus wrote:@Davesto, And I do think the conclusion you're drawing here isn't scummy, just wrong. Usually town Vedith isn't forced but usually Vedith and FB scumread each other a lot.

Is the fact that they usually scumread each other part of a case ? Really?

Yeah. Why do you have a problem?

Titus · Post Post #290 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:21 am

In post 289, Shiro wrote:
In post 288, Titus wrote:
In post 287, Shiro wrote:
In post 286, Titus wrote:@Davesto, And I do think the conclusion you're drawing here isn't scummy, just wrong. Usually town Vedith isn't forced but usually Vedith and FB scumread each other a lot.

Is the fact that they usually scumread each other part of a case ? Really?

Yeah. Why do you have a problem?

It seems kind of a dumb thing to put in a case yea.

Facts are facts.

Titus · Post Post #292 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:24 am

If A always scumreads B, when they are both town. It's going to take forcing to change that.

Titus · Post Post #294 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:26 am

Hence why the interaction looks forced.

Titus · Post Post #295 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:28 am

Vedith still scumreads Firebringer but is supposing scumteading him = FB is town.

Titus · Post Post #300 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:37 am

@FB, I meant scum meta there. Calm down.

Titus · Post Post #301 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:38 am

In post 297, Shiro wrote:
In post 295, Titus wrote:Vedith still scumreads Firebringer but is supposing scumteading him = FB is town.

Eh, it would be a natural conclusion that he has to be town so it shouldn't be that forced but I could be wrong.

Has Vedith said that he scumreads fire?

P.Edit

Ouch, look at the image I made it might fix your mood D:

My interpretation of his forcedness is that, an interpretation.

Titus · Post Post #303 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:40 am

The fact is I had you starting as town because you were trying. All you had to do was be coherent.

A blow up for me being inarticulate isn't convincing me you are town.

Titus · Post Post #304 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:40 am

In post 302, Shiro wrote:
In post 300, Titus wrote:@FB, I meant scum meta there. Calm down.

Actually that is false.

The one scum game I played with him is the one game he said in the Mafia PT that he was keeping notes and stuff(which he said he never does)

I didn't read his PTs. I just looked at his ISO in Space Dandy.

Titus · Post Post #305 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:47 am

Anyone else here think Sal's response is weird?

Titus · Post Post #308 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:51 am

Firebringer's outburst

Titus · Post Post #311 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:59 am

Starting to get paranoid of Sal+Elbrin but mostly on Sal's play...

Titus · Post Post #314 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:14 am

@sal, because you did something I predicted that I only mentioned in hood....

@vyse, when he quits acting scummy I can

Titus · Post Post #321 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:25 am

@Sal, no I told Elbrin how d1 lynches go down considering we both at the time scum read FB. There were five phases. I was doing one and two, and you jumped in with phase 3.

Titus · Post Post #323 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:29 am

My prediction was much more specific than be on someone.....

Titus · Post Post #324 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:29 am

Anyway, I will let Elbrin come in.

Titus · Post Post #337 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:58 am

In post 330, Firebringer wrote:
In post 300, Titus wrote:@FB, I meant scum meta there. Calm down.

That was my first scum game here.
Also I had no idea on my allies, I don't know what kind of play you wanted from me on there.

Go see some of my other scum games, they are vastly different from that game.

What games should I look at then?

Titus · Post Post #338 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:58 am

Wish I could lynch Sal...Fire's last response here is rather townie looking, but no one else looks scummy either.

Titus · Post Post #342 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:01 am

Ganking?

Vedith do you think Sal's trying to provoke me to spam the thread? If so, to what end?

I am going to huddle up with Elbrin tonight and figure out just why Sala acted like he did and if I can trust him.

Vyse read is waiting til tonight. Same with Molla. Kinda surprised Molla doesn't want to kill me yet.

Titus · Post Post #343 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:01 am

*trust him = trust Elbrin.

Bad pronoun placement

Titus · Post Post #362 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:36 pm

In post 361, Kaito Kirishima wrote:
In post 357, Salamence20 wrote:This fucking guy^

THATS ALL YOU GOT.

I don't know I kind of like it, so much better than what you've been doing which is complaining and ranting about how you know everything when in reality you don't.

TITCR.

Titus · Post Post #365 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:53 pm

TITCR = This is the credited response.

Titus · Post Post #366 (isolation #65) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:59 pm

Firebringer is at L minus 2

Titus · Post Post #369 (isolation #66) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:24 pm

In post 367, Prolapsed Brain wrote:If only I had multiple votes.

Who else would you be voting?

Titus · Post Post #386 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:17 am

In post 384, BBmolla wrote:
In post 383, Kaito Kirishima wrote:I mean maybe it's just me but i don't see whats so hard about posting during free breaks and shit XD.

i need to sleep

No one likes people who do that.

Titus · Post Post #387 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:17 am

*that being post during breaks.

Titus · Post Post #395 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:44 pm

@Vyse, Actually, you were scum in We Didn't Playtest This. I don't think there was an issue with your posting rate though.

Titus · Post Post #398 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:15 pm

@Vyse, I do. I also remember you hadn't posted a lot there till my death. I figured that people would presume that I agreed with the statements I didn't correct.

Titus · Post Post #399 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:36 pm

VLA tonight and tomorrow. Bad fluish type thing. Trying to kick it but *shrug*

Titus · Post Post #400 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:37 pm

VLA tonight and tomorrow. Bad fluish type thing. Trying to kick it but *shrug*

Titus · Post Post #503 (isolation #73) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:55 pm

@Molla you scum?

You basically throw out I am scum, not reasoning at all knowing that I'm the most vocal person on the Firebringer wagon.

Your read on Vedith is well PoE dictates that Vedith is scum.

There's no reason to really be town reading Fire. Sure he has a rare townie looking post but his antics deserve to be lynched in any sort of tie breaker situation.

Titus · Post Post #506 (isolation #74) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:07 pm

In post 505, BBmolla wrote:
In post 503, Titus wrote:You basically throw out I am scum, not reasoning at all knowing that I'm the most vocal person on the Firebringer wagon.

metal sonic said you were scum and his reads seemed pretty legit

Yeah, no. Metal hasn't said one word either as to why and Salamance was trying to spam the thread to utter uselessness. There's no way to find Sonic's reads as legit ATM.

Pretty convinced you want to protect FB for some reason.

Titus · Post Post #509 (isolation #75) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:10 pm

In post 507, Metal Sonic wrote:Titus is scum for discrediting my reads

Metal's read. Titus is scum. No reason.

Titus disagrees with my scumread on her, must be scum.

Titus · Post Post #510 (isolation #76) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:11 pm

In post 508, Firebringer wrote:Okay Titus if you think BBMolla is scum. It makes no sense why you would think I am still scum.

You make 0 sense right now.

He doesn't want to bus. Makes no sense? Please.

Titus · Post Post #513 (isolation #77) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:25 pm

In post 512, Firebringer wrote:
In post 510, Titus wrote:

He doesn't want to bus. Makes no sense? Please.

It makes absolutely no sense for me as scum to put my teammate in a lynch pool with a ally.
Especially since their was 0 interactions between me and Molla before I did the challenge.

Explain it.

Go ahead and explain how a bus in that situation makes sense.

All the reason for you to do it. You have four votes. Promote all are town. Lynch whatever townie posts least. Then say what you're saying now.

Titus · Post Post #517 (isolation #78) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:36 pm

@Vyse, Sorry I missed that.

I was surprised I got to play day 1. The conclusion that I'd lynch FB for that is ridiculous.

I knew at the time FB tends to make aggressive acts as town but he could be buddying me. If he was consistent about why he challenged early, then he would have been an early townread.

The fact is he wasn't.

Titus · Post Post #518 (isolation #79) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:40 pm

As for the rest of you, BBMolla's just off. I think you're town. Vedith is null but an easy target because he site flaked for a bit. Vedith being a counter for FB seems opportunistic.

Titus · Post Post #523 (isolation #80) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:38 am

@Vedith, Why? The behavior looks scum/scum.

Titus · Post Post #525 (isolation #81) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:47 am

@Vedith, Take a shot to remove town hood mate early to stop the difficult mislynch. FB thinks you and he always scumread each other, which makes you a threat. FB challenges early to get you on the block.

Vyse obvtowns later as town. So FB challenges BB/Vyse to try and stop that from happening.

It makes a lot more sense than the inconsistent story that FB put forth.

Titus · Post Post #527 (isolation #82) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:15 am

Yes. Remember, scum have no night kill in this game. They have to act fast to stop townreads. They want chaos rather than focused reads.

The fact optimal scumplay for FB/BBMolla looks like it's not is even better.

Titus · Post Post #529 (isolation #83) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:21 am

And if FB gets lynched, all the other three would be presumed town. It clears BB then. If he challenges an all town pool, there's a decent chance he's lynched. If that happens, the game is practically gg for town at that point.

Titus · Post Post #530 (isolation #84) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:23 am

I would state there's no way FB challenges an all town pool if he has smart buddies and they have any say.

Worst case, his buddy gets lynched and FB sails on credit.

Titus · Post Post #532 (isolation #85) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:28 am

That's the reason scum FB cannot go with an all town pool. It's not a low chance to lynch 1/4 when the rest of the town cannot be floated as mislynches.

Still presuming you think FB scum, let's lynch him and get the flip. We can talk more about who FB is scum with after confirmation.

Titus · Post Post #544 (isolation #86) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:38 am

In post 543, Suzune wrote:At this point so far, I like Vyse for Town. This looks like his town game to me using his usual reasoning, I mean he has not talked about Buzzwords yet, but other then that I think his seasons are still good.

At the vote count, I believe that both Firebringer and Vedith are voting Vyse for protection.

However, I find it rare that one no mafia team, challenged another no mafia team. I think that Vedith is probably on the right track.

Confused?

Vedith is on the right track but Vyse is town?

Titus · Post Post #547 (isolation #87) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:50 am

In post 540, Davsto wrote:Because I'm not convinced [Firebringer is scum] but I might be.

If I'm Firebringer, I know my own meta and what others think of it. If he doesn't, his buddies would tell him. Everyone here is competent and we have to suppose scum have daychat because no night.

Firebringer's responses to why he challenged were inconsistent. Read that part again.

FB doesn't seem paranoid of the townreads by Vedith when a townie would be.

His behavior, particularly his AtE discredit (never trust Titus's reads on me), doesn't look townie.

Titus · Post Post #548 (isolation #88) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:53 am

In post 543, Suzune wrote:At this point so far, I like Vyse for Town. This looks like his town game to me using his usual reasoning, I mean he has not talked about Buzzwords yet, but other then that I think his seasons are still good.

At the vote count, I believe that both Firebringer and Vedith are voting Vyse for protection.

However, I find it rare that one no mafia team, challenged another no mafia team. I think that Vedith is probably on the right track.

Vedith thinks Vyse is scum. You think Vyse is town. Vedith being on the right track is inconsistent.

I'm not sure how you think Vedith being on the right track has nothing to do with anything...

Titus · Post Post #550 (isolation #89) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:56 am

In post 549, Davsto wrote:inb4 Firebringer lolhammers

PEdit - inconsistency =/= scum. I've played enough games to know that town sometimes slip up, or they have more than one motivation to do something. Scum try hard to stay consistent. Fire!scum would have come up with a reason for it and stuck to it because scum!Fire would know that inconsistency is a big problem. Town!Fire couldn't give a flying arse what people think of him and this is looking like that Fire.

I concur that town are consistently inconsistent, but that still doesn't explain the rest of FB's behavior.

This doesn't look like town inconsistency though.

Titus · Post Post #552 (isolation #90) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:05 am

@Dave, I don't get what you're saying in the first paragraph.

Metal Sonic hasn't provided a reason for his scumread on me. I have shown how FB is scum. FB's response is Titus sucks. That's scummy.

As for Vedith, Vedith has owned his townread on FB. It's awkward like I said but more of an ownership of it being awkward like I said.

Titus · Post Post #558 (isolation #91) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:16 am

@FB, I don't think Vedith is scum, but I just disagree on interpreting the behavior that's present and I am pretty sure you're scum.

How are you so confident Vedith is town?

Titus · Post Post #559 (isolation #92) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:17 am

In post 557, Davsto wrote:Yeh, I'm still leaning town on Fire, especially after that.

Not me. If FB quickhammered, he'd likely be the lynch for tomorrow regardless which of us is right on Vedith.

Titus · Post Post #563 (isolation #93) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:29 am

@FB, So you're town reading Vedith for agreeing with you and your concerns come when he doesn't? Yet you always scumread each other and its inevitable that it happens?

What reads did Vedith put in the PT?

@Vyse, I like Dave being straight forward. Why is that a problem to you?

Titus · Post Post #566 (isolation #94) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:43 am

I don't understand your last post at all Vyse. I will try again later.

Titus · Post Post #589 (isolation #95) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:43 am

Flu still kicking my ass. Will check in periodically.

Titus · Post Post #606 (isolation #96) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:15 pm

VOTE: BBMolla

Thrilled this is happening.

Titus · Post Post #611 (isolation #97) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:08 pm

BBMolla's sheep of Sonic was awkward. Sonic had no reason given for his scumread. His rabid defense of Firebringer is unwarranted, even if town reading FB. All of us, regardless of our level of town reading FB have expressed a certain level of frustration. BBMolla reads more like a caricature than actual frustration. He hardly mentions Vedith, yet has his vote parked.

Titus · Post Post #613 (isolation #98) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:19 pm

Wisdom's not here....

I care little for who is speaking. I care about the substance of what is said. I don't get how Wisdom has any relevance whatsoever.

Titus · Post Post #642 (isolation #99) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:14 am

In post 640, BBmolla wrote:Dav is town btw

Pretty much the only thing we agree on.

Titus · Post Post #644 (isolation #100) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:28 am

In post 639, BBmolla wrote:
In post 627, Prolapsed Brain wrote:No, because Titus is painfully town.

idc if she somehow is?

if she is, her reads suck, so faster she dies better

notably the read on me

Nah, I am usually better late than early.

Titus · Post Post #646 (isolation #101) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:31 am

In post 645, BBmolla wrote:at least you admit your read on me is shit

No. Occasionally I am right early. Being better at late game = /= my early reads are always wrong.

Titus · Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:43 am

@BB, Just how did Vyse backstab you? Why would you still have him as a townreads if he backstabber you?

If Kaito and Suzune are obvious scum, why didn't you push them harder instead of me?

Why did you have a breakdown the minute you got wagoned?

Why are you insulting/discrediting your townreads?

Why are you spamming?

Titus · Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:44 am

@BB, Why not talk to Vyse if he is your Nacho?

Titus · Post Post #675 (isolation #104) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:20 pm

In post 672, BBmolla wrote:
In post 667, Titus wrote:@BB, Just how did Vyse backstab you? Why would you still have him as a townreads if he backstabber you?

his vote reads as "I think you're town but I also think you're the most useless" which is super fucking backstabby.

Isn't that exactly what you're saying to me, when you say I'm terrible and possibly scum better to lynch me early? I find it hard to buy you're outrage when you're doing the same to me.

Titus · Post Post #678 (isolation #105) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:46 pm

In post 677, BBmolla wrote:
In post 675, Titus wrote:
In post 672, BBmolla wrote:
In post 667, Titus wrote:@BB, Just how did Vyse backstab you? Why would you still have him as a townreads if he backstabber you?

his vote reads as "I think you're town but I also think you're the most useless" which is super fucking backstabby.

Isn't that exactly what you're saying to me, when you say I'm terrible and possibly scum better to lynch me early? I find it hard to buy you're outrage when you're doing the same to me.

You out of anyone should be able to read me by now in my opinion. I'm not some scum mastermind.

Ever since InuYasha and We Didn't Playtest This, I am not buying your attempts to paint yourself as unsavvy scum. To me, I look at the facts. When I called you out for calling me shitty but being upset when Vyse did it, your response is to say I am sucking and I should read you better.

On day 1, there aren't as much facts. Fair enough. Yet, you don't get to call me shitty and object when Vyse does it.

You are smart and I respect you as both alignments. You are better than hypocrisy and being entitled to townreads. I am one of the most paranoid people here. You may think I am crazy, but that's me.

Titus · Post Post #683 (isolation #106) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:12 pm

In post 680, BBmolla wrote:
In post 678, Titus wrote:
In post 677, BBmolla wrote:
In post 675, Titus wrote:
In post 672, BBmolla wrote:
In post 667, Titus wrote:@BB, Just how did Vyse backstab you? Why would you still have him as a townreads if he backstabber you?

his vote reads as "I think you're town but I also think you're the most useless" which is super fucking backstabby.

Isn't that exactly what you're saying to me, when you say I'm terrible and possibly scum better to lynch me early? I find it hard to buy you're outrage when you're doing the same to me.

You out of anyone should be able to read me by now in my opinion. I'm not some scum mastermind.

Ever since InuYasha and We Didn't Playtest This, I am not buying your attempts to paint yourself as unsavvy scum. To me, I look at the facts. When I called you out for calling me shitty but being upset when Vyse did it, your response is to say I am sucking and I should read you better.

On day 1, there aren't as much facts. Fair enough. Yet, you don't get to call me shitty and object when Vyse does it.

You are smart and I respect you as both alignments. You are better than hypocrisy and being entitled to townreads. I am one of the most paranoid people here. You may think I am crazy, but that's me.

Both of those games were me coasting on claims.

You weren't coasting, especially not InuYasha. I tunneled you for days until you mislynched me.

Titus · Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:00 am

@Firebringer/BBMolla, Exes can be assholes. It has nothing to do with the game. Thank you.

Titus · Post Post #724 (isolation #108) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:18 am

In post 720, Kaito Kirishima wrote:Lot of talk about people being assholes and dead.

Also FB I don't see you as an asshole, I just think that fast challenge was scummy and unneeded.

Also what is TvT?

I haven't looked through your past games but how could you play 4 or 5 games and not be familiar with that term?

Titus · Post Post #769 (isolation #109) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:19 pm

In post 767, Firebringer wrote:I am saying if this was truly a all town lynch pool.
Scum could have easily pushed a lynch on either of Vedith or BBMolla.

I think one of them has to be scum.
Otherwise I don't see why a lynch hasn't gone through.

Apathy, scum not wanting to push anything or be at the end of a wagon, scum want the focus outside the lynchers to buddy them BC they will get a mislynch so there's zero need to push scum here.

I did like your majority beliefs get extra scrutiny, but maybe that's because I am the same way. Sometimes majority s right, sometimes wrong. You can bet that scum are expressing majority opinions regardless of their validity though.

Titus · Post Post #770 (isolation #110) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:21 pm

In post 768, Firebringer wrote:I feel liek the most paranoid person in this game right now, I think I am becoming a Titus clone.

Should I be flattered? Insulted?

You are definitely not the most paranoid. I have like zero 100% townreads and I like calling scumteams by day 1.

Titus · Post Post #771 (isolation #111) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:23 pm

In post 762, Kaito Kirishima wrote:FB=Scum unless his yolo challenge works out in getting a scum lynched.

BBmolla=Scum for being way to aggresive and getting super defensive if your town their is no reason to freak out.

Prolasped Brain= (lurking scum maybe*) i mean this dude has done nothing.

Titus=Scum he just screams scum with the way he's been acting, I would be ok with his team being challenged on day 2.

If the hood is all town and FB is town, turbo lynch Kaito immediately.

I agree with BBMolla reasoning.

Lurking is not alignment indicative.

Wow. The way I've been acting...another vague play style read.

Titus · Post Post #777 (isolation #112) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:01 pm

In post 775, Kaito Kirishima wrote:
In post 771, Titus wrote:
If the hood is all town and FB is town, turbo lynch Kaito immediately.

So if the person that gets lynched flips town that makes me auto scum if I'm reading this statement correctly?

No. If BBMolla, Vedith, FB and Vyse are all town, lynch you immediately.

Titus · Post Post #783 (isolation #113) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:24 pm

In post 778, Kaito Kirishima wrote:Not sure I understand since as of right now there isn't even a way to confirm all 4 are town.

Time will.

Titus · Post Post #838 (isolation #114) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:46 pm

Ok. I am going to claim now. I have an innocent cop result on Shiro.

Titus · Post Post #842 (isolation #115) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:57 pm

I could see Kaito as scum. Some of her responses were off.

It still could have been scum scum though. If BBMolla is town, the Elbrin is town. I know I should read BBMolla as town but I have trouble getting over him sheeping Sonic's garbage.

Titus · Post Post #844 (isolation #116) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:59 pm

In post 843, BBmolla wrote:Vedith scum highly suggests Vyse town imo

Walk me through that. I had Vyse town but I also had Vedith town.

Titus · Post Post #872 (isolation #117) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:52 pm

In post 854, Metal Sonic wrote:Aren't we all VTs

challenge titus

VOTE: Metal Sonic

That role claim was a test for Shiro and maybe others if they reacted. You ruined it. Shiro and I just won a game because town didn't read the setup. I wanted to see her reaction to the fakeclaim to see if she had. The fact you doubted me and explained why ruined that reaction test.

Titus · Post Post #876 (isolation #118) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:56 pm

I don't reaction test much. Hence why they usually work. When I do gambit, it's usually related to nightkills or things that would piss scum off. Namely, an unkillable cop would do that.

Did you seriously think I would check Shiro over you or BB?

Titus · Post Post #879 (isolation #119) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:02 pm

@Suzune, I hunt for guilties or townies and let VCA sort the nulls unless there is a player who would sort the game. Shiro was picked solely because her reaction would help me read her.

The fact you considered my cop viable suggests you didn't read the setup. Anyone who did, knew my claim was fake from the moment I typed it.

Titus · Post Post #883 (isolation #120) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:06 pm

@Suzune, That's what you directly commented on. Sometimes people say more than what meets the eye/ear.

@Sonic, Did you read the setup?

Titus · Post Post #885 (isolation #121) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:08 pm

In post 882, Metal Sonic wrote:So you think that at least scum wouldn't have read the setup and made a warning in scum PT?

You mean: Warning Titus as town says obviously untrue things making her easy to mislynch. :p

Titus · Post Post #887 (isolation #122) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:09 pm

I think the challenge today should be MS's team versus Kaito's team.

Titus · Post Post #895 (isolation #123) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:16 pm

@Sonic, Did you read the setup before voting me?

Titus · Post Post #899 (isolation #124) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:20 pm

In post 898, Firebringer wrote:So you are saying.

I as scum.
With my partner who is also scum.

Decided the best decision out of the day was to both:
Call for a challenge on players not present at the time and before any discussion could be had for it.
Then called Vedith town for the whole day up until I hammered him.

Just....why?

I mean, I will say. I am reckless as both alignments, but god damn. I don't even think I have the balls to do that.

Fire's probably town. He's not obvtown because I pulled this type rhetoric on Jeanne in Nether's game.

Titus · Post Post #902 (isolation #125) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:23 pm

@Sonic, why did you challenge the green monkeys over my team?

VOTE: Metal Sonic

Titus · Post Post #905 (isolation #126) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:25 pm

In post 901, Firebringer wrote:Titus is effectively saying "Firebringer is at my level and I expect him to be as good as me"

Thank you for complement Titus

You're welcome but this reeks of buddying.

I expect all players to take the optimal action. If they refuse to do so, I question the read.

The only reason I'm prob towning you for that post is I can't find a hidden bad fact to set it up.

Titus · Post Post #907 (isolation #127) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:27 pm

In post 906, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Kaito

Kaito first pls?

I prefer Sonic, but I think Kaito's scum too. If Kaito gets the votes, I will hammer. If Sonic gets the votes, you hammer. We don't interrupt each other's pressure. Sound good?

I don't want to agree to lynch one over the other because there is information to be had in how people choose.

Titus · Post Post #912 (isolation #128) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:00 pm

Sonic, why have you ignored my questions?

Titus · Post Post #917 (isolation #129) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:07 pm

I will be out most of tomorrow.

I'll be pissed if Sonic hasn't been made to answer my questions.

Titus · Post Post #932 (isolation #130) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:42 am

In post 895, Titus wrote:@Sonic, Did you read the setup before voting me?

In post 902, Titus wrote:@Sonic, why did you challenge the green monkeys over my team?

VOTE: Metal Sonic

These questions are what I want answered. Particularly the last one.

Sonic's ISO didn't have one word about Kaito. He's railing that I am obviously scum. Yet, he challenges Kaito. Notably, this is right after the general consensus that I am town.

So I would like these answered.

Titus · Post Post #933 (isolation #131) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:47 am

In post 920, Shiro wrote:fwiw
My reaction to your random claim was

WTF I was pretty damn sure the setup didn't have PRs

Yay for Vedith, from when molla and VP started talking I was kind of town reading everyong but had the feeling that Vedith might flip scum cool sauce.

Titus I am pretty damn sure MS is town based on my interaction with sala. He had some serious paranoia about me when I was trying to tell him I am town that really didn't seem fake at all. You probably won't trust me on this but oh.

Suzune kind of seemed town to me the whole game. Sala also supported that this is town her so that leaves

Vote:Kaito

ftr I am pretty sure Titus is town as well. Vedith seeing how likely target she was, he said that her thing with Sala was SvS prolly to throw more shade to them. Meh

Kaito/PB/Elbrin?????(like not sure at all)

For the last scum is my guess

Considering MS ruined the reaction test, anyone would claim this was their reaction.

Titus · Post Post #935 (isolation #132) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:37 am

@Shiro, Did Sonic say anything in your hood about the gambit?

Titus · Post Post #938 (isolation #133) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:44 am

What is your read on Sonic?

I don't like that he's said nothing in the hood and deliberately disrupted a reaction test on you.

Titus · Post Post #939 (isolation #134) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:45 am

Last post got ninjaed.

Titus · Post Post #972 (isolation #135) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:14 am

I am not liking Elbrin's recent posting. On one hand, he's complaining about PB being unable to be read because he can't talk to PB, but on the their hand he's questioning people who want to lynch him for not being here. The two goals he's stating are contradictory. I'd rather watch PB like a hawk and get a replacement if he misses deadlines to allow reads to form on his slot.

Titus · Post Post #973 (isolation #136) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:15 am

In post 969, Shiro wrote:Btw new SILVER SNAKES BANNER.

To add MS

Can you make a Purple Parrots avatar? You can use my current or old avatar.

Titus · Post Post #978 (isolation #137) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:24 am

I'm presuming 958 was written without the knowledge of 959. The logical problem is that Elbrin cannot read PB (in 958), but still says don't touch PB (in 958). Scum defending PB does suggest PB is scum and is a decent reason for being ok with a PB lynch. It doesn't resolve the conflict in 958 and allows Elbrin to walk back his conclusion to lynch everyone who wanted a PB lynch...

Titus · Post Post #980 (isolation #138) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:28 am

In post 979, Shiro wrote:
In post 978, Titus wrote:I'm presuming 958 was written without the knowledge of 959. The logical problem is that Elbrin cannot read PB (in 958), but still says don't touch PB (in 958). Scum defending PB does suggest PB is scum and is a decent reason for being ok with a PB lynch. It doesn't resolve the conflict in 958 and allows Elbrin to walk back his conclusion to lynch everyone who wanted a PB lynch...

wth?

A question would help. That quote makes sense to me.

Titus · Post Post #988 (isolation #139) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:03 am

@Elbrin, that stance is anti-town if it is your normal stance.

Can you link me to you holding this stance in past games on lurkers as town? This stance being null do not lynch.

Titus · Post Post #994 (isolation #140) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:02 am

I like it too. It's the perfect blend of rational crazy that is me.

Titus · Post Post #995 (isolation #141) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:03 am

In post 993, Davsto wrote:Hmm I need a new avi

Let's go Colin-o!

Whose avatar is it anyway?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:14 am

VOTE: Kaito

That's hammer.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:16 am

In post 997, BBmolla wrote:I'm pretty damn ready to lynch Kaito

If Kaito is scum, we literally only need to be certain on three townreads and we win the game.

Agreed. That gives me an idea for lynches in the future, but realistically it works a lot better with 2 or fewer scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:17 am

In post 1003, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1001, BBmolla wrote:if I am wrong I need to take a big step back and re-evaluate my life

I think if he flips town, what you should do is admit I am better at this game than you.

Ewwww.....

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:30 am

I got the beer!

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:31 am

In post 1013, Davsto wrote:Nah, I prefer the ending in Mafia Café (see my wiki). Town - Johnny and fitz, Scum - Aristophanes.

Ari hammered Johnny, and kept discussing with him until the flip, whilst pretending to be town, and pretending that fitz was the scum.
THEN
the person that Ari replaced, RadiantCowbells, carried on in the game, discussing with Aristophanes how they "should have known that fitz was scum".

Way to kill my buzz...

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:04 am

I haven't started drinking but is it today or yesterday. I don't think Shiro's scum but my reason is wifomy.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:23 am

Definitely worth considering.

My plan since Kaito flipped scum is any L minus 1 read puts forth the challenge for the next day. If we mislynch, we follow the townies challenge. If scum, the L minus 1 forces associations or claiming scum.

Right now, I want Sonic to actually fucking answer my questions. I could go for a Sonic v PB challenge. That or a Sonic v Vyse challenge. PB does have a point on the votes there.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:25 am

In post 1038, Firebringer wrote:Metal Sonic and BBMolla are conf town for me. No way they bussed their allies by joining both wagons as early as they did.

Sonic's vote was transparently survivalistic considering his dodge of why he challenged Kaito in the first place.

Millais as close to conftown as I get I think.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:28 am

I will review that VC later and so will the mod. I thought I hammered.

@Shiro, Did I stutter?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:31 am

@Molla, 1039, good or bad plan?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:32 am

In post 1048, BBmolla wrote:I highly expect one or both of Shiro/Suzune to be scum

Why?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:34 am

@Shiro, Thoughts on the plan in 1039?

Please use real names. I have trouble remembering team names.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:38 am

You also seem to have no problem with the fact Sonic hasn't answered my questions and now you want him out of the line of fire? I have no problem challenging if that's what the group wants, but I am challenging Sonic. I want my points on Sonic to be heard and discussed.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:41 am

VOTE: Metal Sonic

Answer my questions.

@Davesto, How is my plan vulnerable to scum manipulation? Scum would have zero say in the challenges.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:46 am

In post 1064, Shiro wrote:Though tbh Titus your plans are fairly shaky I mean

Sala was gang ho on lynching Vedith and MS was the one that kickstarted the Kaito lynch. It is pretty damn town

Sala was gang ho on doing the opposite of what I wanted. MS also didn't kickstart the Kaito lynch more so than bussing an inevitably lynched buddy.

There's next to nothing in Sonic's ISO about Kaito. The group consensus was he and Kaito were scum. He abandons his scumread of me and challenges Kaito.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:48 am

In post 1065, Davsto wrote:Wait no I misread it massively, I thought you meant the person who put the last person at L-1 chooses (shh)

But regardless I'll doubt it'll work in the scum case because it'll just be WIFOM; since they know we'll be basing the next day's challenge off their choice, they'll be as tricksy as possible with it.

We would default to town consensus if the lynchee was scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:48 am

In post 1069, Davsto wrote:
In post 1066, Shiro wrote:Hey davsto do you know how I know you are town?

Last game we were opposing sides so this time chances are we are togehter

Do you want me to reject your pre-in to Pun Mafia? >:c

Gambler's Fallacy rejected.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:49 am

I want to make an alt called Gambler's Fallacy now.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:50 am

In post 1074, Shiro wrote:Damn when put that way it sounds pretty fishy but Why would Sala AtE me in PT to vote Vedith?

P.edit

DaV xD Sorry I am just messing around

Because it's not what I wanted and trololol, Titus is obviously scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:52 am

In post 1073, Firebringer wrote:Taken.

:'( That was going to be my scum alt.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:56 am

:@:@:@:@

I am going to avoid this thread because Sonic is going to lurk his way to Victory because he bussed day 1. I want to be in a good mood for games tonight with my sister's coworkers.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:00 am

@Davesto, InuYasha Mafia.

I got scum on D1 wagoned. Everyone on it was town. I was then told by people that we'd wagon scum tomorrow. My allies were all dead and I was mislynched Day 5.

Plus, every other town game I've been in it's we'll lynch your scumread tomorrow.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:03 am

You ever consider white knighting?

I seriously need to stop posting.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:04 am

In post 1084, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1080, Davsto wrote:Shit it's 11PM I need slep vroom

Also Firebringer, how about you pre-in to Pun Mafia with that shiny new alt of yours? Wouldn't want it to go to waste

PEdit - looks, town right now are at 8:2 Town:Mafia in a nightless setup. What makes you think that at that point we'll never consider Sonic?

I will consider it, perhaps me and Shiro will make that our Hydra debut? O_o

Us hydra? Gambler's Fallacy says Titus is scum FB town.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:07 am

@Shiro, A shitty, unreasoned townreads by scum on an actual townreads is the definition of a white knight.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:07 am

*actual townreads = actual townies

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:10 am

I think MS is scum regardless of the flip of PB and that you were making a fallacy in only considering MS Scum if PB was scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:36 pm

Or we could actually discuss Metal Sonic.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:41 pm

And what incentive does he have to talk? He's gloating in the thread about avoiding answering why he challenged Suzune.

If PB is the inevitable lynch, why will he talk?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:42 pm

*challenged Kaito my bad

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:50 pm

I literally just got done stating that Sonic is likely scum, regardless of PB's alignment.

*rips hair out*

If you aren't going to discuss MS, then just hammer PB. We have a few mislynches. I will still be frustrated but this isn't lylo which would require me to derail to force Sonic scum through.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:55 pm

Can we lynch Sonic now?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:02 pm

Who challenges MS? Me?

Sala comes out making the game a huge distraction while subtly bussing a buddy in the first challenge pool. That buddy winds up lynched. Sonic contributes nothing to the ganestate other than bitching Titus is scum without a reason. I am one of the biggest threats to Sonic if he's scum. (Although I expect Sonic would say the same thing if I was town). During the Kaito lynch, people wanted MS and Kaito. MS expressed no Kaito read and challenged Kaito over me. MS is playing to town consensus and the MS I know has more fire than that and would frankly push me to VCA more or explain why it doesn't work.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:02 pm

*if I was town to him lol

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 1160, Metal Sonic wrote:VCA doesn't work because this is gladiator game

Bullshit. VCA isn't ironclad but you can still learn from votes.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:07 pm

In post 1167, BBmolla wrote:I think if we lynch everyone but Me/Firebringer/Elbirn we're set anyway

but Shiro is probably the best lynch if we want to get scum methinks.

Talk to me about Shiro and Elbrin.

Elbrin I have nagging moments on. Shiro I can see as Sonic's partner but I can't just filter all my reads through Sonic scum land even though I am really confident there.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:09 pm

In post 1173, Metal Sonic wrote:Ok
I am obviously town

That is all

Every time you say this, I wish I was a compulsive Sonic dayvig.

Who do you think is scum?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:23 pm

@BB, Sonic/Shiro/Suzune challenge? That's what I am thinking ATM.

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:30 pm

@Elbrin, unless you think Scum are in FB/Suzune/Dave's to, It's impossible to have any challenge that is all scum.

Who do you want challenged?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:36 pm

Elbrin, pop into the hood for a second?

Titus · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:39 pm

Ok. I will slow down, and I'm obviously fine with Sonic being the next corpse.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:24 am

Sonic/Shiro, can you hurry up and challenge? Thanks.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:44 am

Whoever you think is scum. Most everyone is scumreading Sonic and wants his team challenged. The only reason I haven't challenged myself is because I want actual fucking reads from you/Sonic. I want Sonic to answer why he challenged Kaito when there was a consensus but not Vyse (or me but it seems like he's town reading me now).

So who do y'all scumread?

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:01 am

VOTE: Metal Sonic

Are you ready to talk?

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:41 am

@Sonic, if you really wanted me mislynchable, you should have challenged yourself. I am not eligible to be voted.

Are you going to answer me or not?

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:03 am

Maybe Dave is pissed he couldn't swing a mislynch onto me?

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:08 am

Well if it's no challenge, then give us scumreads? And none of this trolling shit.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:35 am

@Dave, Thoughts on Sonic and Vyse please?

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:49 am

Vyse, take care of you first. This is a game.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:55 am

FB, Sonic's at L minus 1. Challenge happened. Molla Vyse v Sonic Shiro

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:08 am

UNVOTE:

My vote will go right back. I just want to hear from Suzune first.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:09 am

In post 1238, Shiro wrote:
In post 1236, Firebringer wrote:I need Vedith to give me advice, but I killed him.
>.>

His advice would not be to your best interest anyway

Caught scum still tell many stories.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:10 am

VOTE: Sonic

@Suzune, The wagons have been fast for days, why is Sonic's special?

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:26 am

What makes you think he'll say anything useful given his refusal to defend himself or answer questions?

Who are you thinking is scum?

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:42 am

I'm not acting like it's no big deal. He is being held accountable for refusing to answer my questions. We can't force him to answer any more tan this. There comes a point were Sonic has just flat out refused. We reached it.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:21 pm

Ok, I am down for aVyse challenge. Vyse unvoted so I could pressure Sonic more because I was convinced he was scum. In hindsight, Vyse may have been hoping I would save Kaito.

As the other, I would like to see Dave in the challenge. His interactions towards the end of the Sonic lynch felt oddly passive which is not something I am used to from Dave. The unknown Vyse read really startled me.

I'm not so sure what Sonic was doing though being so anti-town. I need to reset and go slower though.

I need to take a second pass at Shiro and Suzune though.

At this point I've accepted FB will always give me the creeps but it may not be scummy.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:24 pm

Alright Suzune, an we start with a read wall from you? Elbrin gave me some indicators (which I am withholding) to look for. Putting a read list forth would help me resort the both of you.

Titus · Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:25 pm

In post 1266, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1264, Titus wrote:
At this point I've accepted FB will always give me the creeps but it may not be scummy.

Can I hold you to this?

You giving me the creeps, sure. May not be scummy isn't the strongest statement though.