Open 609: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

Luna Fox · Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:27 am

Sorry i just had an annoyed momment due to Alch's posting...

Luna Fox · Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:35 am

Also im fairly certain PP is scum, but if im wrong my next bet is Mario, because Diego has as much as confirmed himself as town for me.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:43 am

In post 1426, Luna Fox wrote:Also im fairly certain PP is scum, but if im wrong my next bet is Mario, because Diego has as much as confirmed himself as town for me.

Diego is conftown because:

Prolapsed Brain · Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:44 am

In post 1421, Diego1487 wrote:
In post 1416, Luna Fox wrote:VOTE: Luna Fox
@mod: If we lynch Luna using a self vote, and she turns up scum, is this considered playing against her win-condition according to site rules?

The answer will help me decide if this is a gambit or essentially confirming Luna as town.

If that happens, I will rule on it at that point.

Luna Fox · Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:45 am

If he's scum he could've gone with lynching me > lynching PP for a win after i said what i said, he didn't, he also didn't hammer and also keeps thinking you're scum despite there being more easier lynches elsewhere.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:46 am

In post 1429, Luna Fox wrote:If he's scum he could've gone with lynching me > lynching PP for a win after i said what i said, he didn't, he also didn't hammer and also keeps thinking you're scum despite there being more easier lynches elsewhere.

no?
he said "well i think mario is mafia but i suppose i'll hammer in pp and luna"
which gives him more scumpoints than townpoints for not sticking with his view

Luna Fox · Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:47 am

He didn't say that, he said we were forcing him to choose between us 2 while he prefers to lynch you.
This is true because we're voting panther, while panther and Alch are voting me, at that point it's literally impossible for him to lynch you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:48 am

In post 1408, Diego1487 wrote:
In post 1406, Luna Fox wrote:So you think that only one of us 2 is scum?
No, I still
want
to lynch Mario. But I've been put in the middle of you and Panther so I'm telling everyone my feelings on you two if I'm forced to lynch one of you.

^
See this right here.

Prolapsed Brain · Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:49 am

Votecount 4.05

L-1

PantherPunt - 2 - MarioManiac4, Luna Fox
Diego1487 - 1 - PantherPunt
Luna Fox - 1 - Alchemist21
MarioManiac4 - 1 - Diego1487

Not Voting: ...

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-10-14 00:27:46)

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:50 am

In post 1431, Luna Fox wrote:He didn't say that, he said we were forcing him to choose between us 2 while he prefers to lynch you.
This is true because we're voting panther, while panther and Alch are voting me, at that point it's literally impossible for him to lynch you.

lynch me tommorow?
he couldve easily furthered his viewpoint by saying "here is a case on mario/ here is a case on why i'm sheepworthy town"
instead he wanted to hammer in pp/you
he changed his mind when pp's "last will" was to lynch diego, and voted me again

Luna Fox · Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:51 am

He literally can't lynch you without at least 2 of Me, Alch, Panther agreeing, but Alch is stuck on me apparently so without both me and Panther agreeing.
He's the only one (or was rather) not voting either of us 2, he would've hammered either in a heartbeat if he was scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:57 am

tl;dr:
He literally thinks you're scum and is not happy with having to choose between me and panther, hence, why he went and checked the cases on both of us, he's still on the fence and wants to continue discussing, this isn't something scum does, he could've hammered either by saying "i think this case is more likely to be right", he didn't, he's had a lot of oportunities with safe outs for him to hammer town, he hasn't taken any.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:57 am

In post 1435, Luna Fox wrote:He literally can't lynch you without at least 2 of Me, Alch, Panther agreeing, but Alch is stuck on me apparently so without both me and Panther agreeing.
He's the only one (or was rather) not voting either of us 2, he would've hammered either in a heartbeat if he was scum.

no, alchemist is fixated on you and me- he thinks one is mafia.
you then have pp who is probably scum and could eventually hammer because "sheeping alchemist the ic."

And why would he instahammer? He'd just get lynched tommorow...
goddamnit luna is there a mod error and you're scum with diego

Luna Fox · Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:59 am

In post 1437, MarioManiac4 wrote:no, alchemist is fixated on you and me- he thinks one is mafia.

I'm pretty sure he said he's townreading "the other 3"

Luna Fox · Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:59 am

In post 1414, Alchemist21 wrote:In my opinion, Silver's interactions
point to all the other three being Town.
Also, I had early suspicions of you then I backed off and started Townreading you. Usually that happens when the player is scum.

This right here.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:05 am

You're both right tbh. If I'm wrong about Luna then it's probably Mario, but the signs point to Luna imo and I'd rather she be lynched today.

The whole "sheeping the IC" argument against Panther doesn't really mean much since he switched to Diego shortly after.

Luna Fox · Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:08 am

In post 1440, Alchemist21 wrote:The whole "sheeping the IC" argument against Panther doesn't really mean much since he switched to Diego shortly after.

After i said that i would self-hammer if ppl promised to lynch him tomorrow yes.
I will admit that if im wrong about PP tho it's probably Mario, i just don't see scum Diego doing anything he's done this DP.

Luna Fox · Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:11 am

So we currently have
PP thinks it's Luna(Me) / Diego
Alchemist thinks it's Luna(Me) / Mario
Mario thinks it's Diego / PP
I think it's PP / Mario
Diego thinks it's Mario

As you can see the only one that isnt keeping lynch options open is Diego, if that isn't a town point in his favor idk what is.
Also notice how the ONLY thing we could reach a consensus with our current stances is... Mario.

Luna Fox · Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:13 am

Unless i self-vote again that is, which im still perfectly fine doing so for the purpose of clearing this question mark everyone has.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:19 am

In post 1442, Luna Fox wrote:So we currently have
PP thinks it's Luna(Me) / Diego
Alchemist thinks it's Luna(Me) / Mario
Mario thinks it's Diego / PP
I think it's PP / Mario
Diego thinks it's Mario

As you can see the only one that isnt keeping lynch options open is Diego, if that isn't a town point in his favor idk what is.
Also notice how the ONLY thing we could reach a consensus with our current stances is... Mario.

Or I could vote you for thinly weiling to a scumread on me which would make a stronger consesus? So that doesn't really work?
By your own logic I would be stronger town than Diego for not going after you when I could have?

Diego1487 · Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:27 am

If Luna is still willing to self-vote even with the mod willing to consider a self-vote "against wincon" then she can't be scum.

VOTE: PantherPunt

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:29 am

In post 1445, Diego1487 wrote:If Luna is still willing to self-vote even with the mod willing to consider a self-vote "against wincon" then she can't be scum.

VOTE: PantherPunt

...
you just hammered...
...
...
If PP flips town you get voted tommorow.
I suggest killing Luna as Alchemist will probably fucking hammer me and give you the win

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:31 am

She's had this "lynch me" attitude since the Day started, but her vote stays on herself very briefly and she gets upset people actually scumread her. That's not Town behavior to me.

Spoiler:

P-edit: And I didn't realize that was a hammer...

Diego1487 · Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:33 am

In post 1446, MarioManiac4 wrote:If PP flips town you get voted tommorow.

Ditto

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:34 am

In post 1448, Diego1487 wrote:
In post 1446, MarioManiac4 wrote:If PP flips town you get voted tommorow.
Ditto

Any reasons?
Oh yeah I forgot I lolhammered with one mislynch to lylo, you have solid grounds for scumreading me.