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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:28 am

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In post 2014, Aj The Epic wrote:I wanted to put it in the open. Riddle me this: Why do I claim you as FN as scum? My team already knows and can quietly assassinate you.

I can put a lot of possible reasons and none of them read You!Town. (Well not a lot, probably like 2-3)
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:30 am

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As for the first example:

You and Worst are scumbuddies, this is a pretty suicidal tactic however.

For the second example.

Both FNs are town and you know, and you did this to try to create a 1v1 between both FNs so you dont have to waste a shot on them.
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:31 am

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The second is reasonable, the first is insane. However, if I was going to do that, I would've come out on D2 and voted Skybird using it as a counterclaim of sorts.
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:32 am

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First is insane from the perspective of it being almost impossible for it to work.
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:41 am

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In post 2021, I Am Innocent wrote:Proof is in the pudding. Unfortunately for me, my proof apparently evaporated due to FAQ's involvement. But I can still prove myself tonight. If AJ flips scum, I'll shoot TheWorst. If he flips town, that puts you and FAQ in bad lighting. I'll probably shoot one of you two.
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Strike that, scum AJ doesn't guarantee scum TheWorst, right? :oops:
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:09 am

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If I get lynched, here's how I want the night actions played:

IaI, if you are vig, strike and kill one of veegee, Performer, Vedith or Sal. FA_Q2 protect Luna. No lenience on Fa_q2's protect. The next day, if IaI isn't proven vig, he dies and FA_Q2 follows. Otherwise, I'd like to see that pool of targets drained pretty fast
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:11 am

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In post 2018, Luna Fox wrote:Possible explanations of mafia's NK dissapearing
They shot FAQ.
They shot talah
They shot me (if AJ is telling the truth)
They shot AJ.
Scum didn't NK.

See... the issue here is that there's 4 possible targets that would nullify the scum NK last night, that's almost half of all possible targets, you really think i should believe that scum had about a 4/13 (30%) chance of getting their night kill blocked if they shot randomly last night?

Of all these night kills that could've been stopped
Why would they shoot any of FAQ, talah, me, AJ over someone like Skybird. It doesn't make any sense, I participated in a town mislynch yesterday, AJ was decently scumread by a few, talah also lynched Zakk, and FAQ lynched Zakk AND is being scumread by a few.

That is only if you believe that AJ is telling the truth.

I doubt I was the target. I was one of the possible lynch candidates day one (though that was mostly due to AJ and if he is scum he might have wanted to avoid having to push that). I could see talah being the target - if this is the case I will not survive the night.

IAI's claim with the fact there were no kills leaves credence to the idea that both my and AJ's claim are possible but that still seems unlikely to me. If scum have powerful roles to counter towns PR's then we might have some serious problems as we are outed. I am not so sure I like IAI's claim though. The manner that he outed town's PR's does not add up to me. Being a vig, I don't see how that would have fingered scum reliably enough to ask for PR claims. He could have been role blocked. Talah could have been BP. He could have been protected (as that is what actually occurred). He could have commuted. He could have been jailed. The list goes on.

I think IAI was fishing for roles and he managed to get them. The more I think about this the worse I feel for claiming. I finally get a damn good role and now it is likely that I will not get to use much of it.

VOTE: IAmInnocent

Please explain what your actual plan was IAI because I really do not see why asking for our roles (and needing specifics rather than simply asking if anyone protected talah) is beneficial to town if you are a vig. It is also the ideal scum claim - scum kill anyway.
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:13 am

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In post 2030, Aj The Epic wrote:If I get lynched, here's how I want the night actions played:

IaI, if you are vig, strike and kill one of veegee, Performer, Vedith or Sal. FA_Q2 protect Luna. No lenience on Fa_q2's protect. The next day, if IaI isn't proven vig, he dies and FA_Q2 follows. Otherwise, I'd like to see that pool of targets drained pretty fast

No. I will not be protecting who you point to. End of story. Don't bother asking again.

I am still leaning on you possibly being scum, why the hell would I allow you to direct my actions. Why the hell would I tell scum who to not target? Why the insistence on luna? You are making it really difficult not to lynch - everything you do is scummy.
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:14 am

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In post 2001, Titus wrote:That's what I had suspected with your claim tbh. It's a meta stunt I pulled before myself. So I was really annoyed when you earlier said no possibility of lying town. Now, I can't be sure whether it's true or whether you're revising your claim to save yourself.

Why is the new claim better?

ONe of the things that gave me pause was the fact that I was a 2 shot BP as well. Those claims line up a lot. It is also why I suspect a strongman.
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:23 am

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In post 2032, FA_Q2 wrote:No. I will not be protecting who you point to. End of story. Don't bother asking again.


If I'm lynched you better believe I expect you to follow that.
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:32 am

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In post 2034, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 2032, FA_Q2 wrote:No. I will not be protecting who you point to. End of story. Don't bother asking again.


If I'm lynched you better believe I expect you to follow that.

Fine. Lets test that theory scum.
VOTE: AJ

I still want an answer from you IAI. Spell out what you thought you were going to get.
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:41 am

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That vote is as forced as your claim.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:50 am

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In post 2036, Aj The Epic wrote:That vote is as forced as your claim.

Uh huh. It would be interesting to see how you twist my claim as forced.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:53 am

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You say mine is suspect, you don't claim. There's no effective reason for this.
IaI basically reveals his role before you claim. More importantly, his claim only comes through halfway through the day.
You have an issue with me upon flipping town telling you how the night actions should go, perhaps dodging out and trying to make sure there's no holes in your claim.


And really, you didn't deny that your vote was forced.
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:06 pm

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Firebringer replaces Salamence20
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:08 pm

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Hey guys, nice playing with you all.
I am replacing Sala cause Sala is awesome and deserves a awesome replacement.
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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:08 pm

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VOTECOUNT TWO POINT ATE


VEEGEE - 4 - PERFORMER, TITUS, TALAH, VEDITH,
AJ THE EPIC - 2 - LUNA FOX, FA_Q2, I AM INNOCENT,
VEDITH - 1 - FIREBRINGER,
FA_Q2 - 1 - AJ THE EPIC,

NOT VOTING: THEWORST, VEEGEE, CHANNELDELIBIRD, SKYBIRD,

DEADLINE: (expired on 2015-10-17 07:05:00)

WITH 13 ALIVE IT TAKES 7 TO LYNCH

REPLACING SALAMENCE20
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:08 pm

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Hey Fire. Glad to see you.

Sorry you got a scum slot. You claimed rolecop? Care to explain that?
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:10 pm

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In post 2042, Titus wrote:Hey Fire. Glad to see you.

Sorry you got a scum slot. You claimed rolecop? Care to explain that?

I would have to read up before I answer this Titus.
Going to read my previous slots posts first. I will answer any questions/post reads/ all that once I get done writing some notes (the bane of my existence)
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:12 pm

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Yeah.

VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:18 pm

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I see no claim of rolecop.
So you lie Titus.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:19 pm

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So in summary:
Sala scum read Vedith, FA_Q2

And town read Titus...
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:22 pm

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Of course I lied.

The proper response I'm not a rolecop. Not gee, let me check if I claimed that. :/
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:23 pm

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In post 2047, Titus wrote:Of course I lied.

The proper response I'm not a rolecop. Not gee, let me check if I claimed that. :/

I was seeing if Sala made a gambit and if I should go along with it.
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:25 pm

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I like your scum test but to no avail all it did was prove that I am not a role cop.
Keep trying though Titus, keep trying.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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