Mini 1723: Town of Helen Day 4

[Titus]

There's absolutely a "rule" that you have to use what time you have to scum-hunt when the discussion hasn't stagnated. Why give up time that you have when there are things to gain? Scum wants to cut off discussion, not town.

Second, how on earth are a lot of town reads on it? I'd like a full read list from you with reasons.

Discussion has stalled to me with scum trying to get you to push me.

I can do that but I already did it before. Flubber's been townier now.

[Titus]

1) Flubber's hitting his stride giving reasons for his vote.
2) Me.
3) pistachion, lead town. I think the paranoia of Rob is wrong but reads town.
4) PB, The only thing scummy from him is the broken promise but he's here when pressure is on him.
5) Boonskiies, Town told.
6) Ari, Miller.

Never on the wagon

ASP, could provide more. Liked his opening attacking Hier. I disagree with it, as Hier seems low volume, high quality posts.

Her, low volume high quality posting.

Rob13, obvious town.

SW, Tunneling a read on me. Either confbiasing town or scum tunneling me to mislynch me and then be able to reset her reads magically.

Vedith, votepark and avoid scrutiny.
20, same.

[SilverWolf]

Titus-who else are you scumreading besides me?

[Titus]

GL, I know everyone else thinks he's town but I don't know.

[Titus]

Titus-who else are you scumreading besides me?

What I feel?: Are you reading my posts?

20 and Vedith.

[SilverWolf]

Titus-who else are you scumreading besides me?

What I feel?: Are you reading my posts?

20 and Vedith.

So you are scumreading everyone who voted for you except Rob.

Just making sure.

[SilverWolf]

SW, before I forget, please explain your town reads on Flubber and pista, but not until after Titus does.

Flubber does not look like his scum game, his reason for 20 was spam which was not a bad reason, he's since moved on to a bigger scumread, his comments appear to be trying to figure out the game, he's a mild townread.

Pista-mild townread, part gut read and part I see nothing in her ISO that looks scum motivated in the least, her push on you for example, her reasoning on 20 is less clear but I'm still not thinking she's scum.

[SilverWolf]

Titus is a scumread. PB is a scumread who voted due to pressure from another scumread. Boonskiies vote was complete shit.

This still makes me think the 20 wagon was bad though.

[Flubbernugget]

Titus is looking at the game from two perspectives which is pretty town but her actions still aren't 100% lining up with her thought processes

[Flubbernugget]

20 still scum bit this is more scum

Can we just stay on the scum we agree on? Thanks.

Why are you pushing a quick lynch with 10 days left?

Scum read intensifying.

It's not a quick lynch with the amount of resistance shown and a lot of town reads/reasoning on it.

There's no rule that says you have to use X deadline when you have caught scum.

Errr the resistance is what helped give pause to the wagon?

[Titus]

Titus is looking at the game from two perspectives which is pretty town but her actions still aren't 100% lining up with her thought processes

How so?

[Titus]

20 still scum bit this is more scum

Can we just stay on the scum we agree on? Thanks.

Why are you pushing a quick lynch with 10 days left?

Scum read intensifying.

It's not a quick lynch with the amount of resistance shown and a lot of town reads/reasoning on it.

There's no rule that says you have to use X deadline when you have caught scum.

Errr the resistance is what helped give pause to the wagon?

Huh?

[SilverWolf]

The problem I have with Titus's thinking on me in particular is the fact that she's pushing it as TvT while at the same time pushing me as scum.

This thought process does not make sense to me and I don't like it.

If she isn't sure if I'm town or scum then she shouldn't be constantly pushing me as scum. She should be trying to sort me still.

But there is no indication she's trying to sort me. She says things to Rob like scum is trying to get him to push me. Clearly that means me. The way she talks about me, she should be voting for me and trying to push a wagon on me.

But instead she's pushing 20 and Vedith and isn't making statements about them that are nearly as strong is what she's saying about me.

Does anyone else see this and think it is off?

[SilverWolf]

The problem I have with Titus's thinking on me in particular is the fact that she's pushing it as TvT while at the same time pushing me as scum.

This thought process does not make sense to me and I don't like it.

If she isn't sure if I'm town or scum then she shouldn't be constantly pushing me as scum. She should be trying to sort me still.

But there is no indication she's trying to sort me. She says things to Rob like scum is trying to get him to push

me

her. Clearly that means me. The way she talks about me, she should be voting for me and trying to push a wagon on me.

But instead she's pushing 20 and Vedith and isn't making statements about them that are nearly as strong is what she's saying about me.

Does anyone else see this and think it is off?

EBWOP

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Silverwolf

This isn't her town game. At all. Haha.

[Boonskiies]

That's just from skimming the last couple pages. I'll be catching up shortly for an in depth read, but wolf is scum.

[Titus]

@Boon, why do you say this? I can easily see this either way, so I'm not sure how you're so confident.

[Rob14]

Titus is looking at the game from two perspectives which is pretty town but her actions still aren't 100% lining up with her thought processes

I can kind of buy the idea of looking at the game from multiple perspectives as town, but speaking with conviction from multiple perspectives is pretty unlikely/contradictory.

[Flubbernugget]

@titus rob has better explained what I'm trying to get at here^^

[Flubbernugget]

20 still scum bit this is more scum

Can we just stay on the scum we agree on? Thanks.

Why are you pushing a quick lynch with 10 days left?

Scum read intensifying.

It's not a quick lynch with the amount of resistance shown and a lot of town reads/reasoning on it.

There's no rule that says you have to use X deadline when you have caught scum.

Errr the resistance is what helped give pause to the wagon?

Huh?

I should have said lack of resistance. The lurkers hopping on gave people pause

[Titus]

I get Rob's statement even less.

The lurker that gave people pause is Boonskiies who we all know is town and Ari the miller. :/

[Rob14]

Those are not the only ones I questioned being on the wagon. At the time, Flubber, pista, and PB were all bad wagonees as well. Flubber is apparently not lurking anymore and has looked town recently, but pista has still not done much at all this game and PB is a scum-butt.

[Rob14]

And Boon may be town, but in name only. He's as anti-town as they come. No rationale, no explanation, and I have no respect for his ability to form accurate reads. As others have mentioned this game, town =/= right. I'm more or less ignoring him at this point.

[Boonskiies]

L. I've been known to have incredibly accurate reads. Just not day 1. I don't get why anyone's even complaining about my 'lurking' even when I'm posting like once a day.

@Silver/Titus - you both know how I do things; I don't do crap until I start doing stuff. Then I'll post near the most and everyone will want me to shut up. It comes and goes, but I usually wait until Day 3 to hardcore put everything together.

[pistachi0n]

I am willing to sacrifice myself to prove Titus is scum

Why would lynching you prove Titus is scum? Your actions seem TvT.

Because my flip will confirm me as town and that should give my words more weight and will show that Titus's push on me all game is bad and wrong.

It will confirm that Titus was wrong. It will not confirm that Titus is scum.