Open 612 - Bad Poets Society - Game Over - Town Win

[goodmorning]

I don't agree with 'waiting for time to pass' if the player being waited on isn't really being pushed to answer, which appears to be the case. Now that goodmorning has weighed in below, would you feel like sharing your feelings on them?

Sure. If Ika saw the same thing I did, it's basically the contrast between GM's first post and second. In GM's first post, there was a decent vote with a decent reason: could be serious, could be random, good content generator. Yet in the second post GM made, regardless of whether GM's vote was actually serious or not, the tone behind it was clearly less serious, rather than more.

That pinged me as being a bit unnatural. But it's not very strong, whereas my Errantparabola suspicion is.

It's an Open. I rarely take Opens seriously.

You sound far too reasonable to be Town.

Is that a personal trait for Maxwell?
Or do you mean in general?

I meant Maxwell, specifically in post 73.

Worthy of note: in addition to Errantparabola, I've got my eye on GM (see above), Brunneis, and Trivium.

I don't think all four are scum, but I think we've got at least two in that group of four.

Talk to me about Trivium - What stuck out for you with him?

Why ask Ranger and not meeeeeee?

p-edit: well, scum can and do reaction test, but parabola has deeply mischaracterised the nature of this test in particular in an attempt to make it seem scummy so he can push makara

which is a thing that scum do, decide who they're pushing and misconstrue evidence after

js

[goodmorning]

p-edit was @98, of course

[The Fire Hermit]

Goodmorning is probably town.

[Varsoon]

@Taly: I've been fairly busy. Don't like my images? That makes me sad. I'll stop posting them for now, I guess.

@FireHermit: What makes you say that about GM?

[Trivium]

OK real talk - my vote on ranger was a reaction test. I don't like the way that Errant responded to it - it felt like it was going after a scummy-looking player without looking deeper. He could have asked why it was a serious vote, but he mostly seemed interested in going after an easy target.

VOTE: Errant

@ranger pls get an avi - it makes your posts easily recognizable on a quick glance

I don't like the way you are reacting to the pressure. Reaction test vote? That's scummy. There are ways of pressuring scum without voting, and unless you have a good reason to suspect someone, there should be no reason to "reaction test vote" someone. In my opinion, reaction test votes don't exist. The way you respond to pressure? Changing your vote under persecution. Now that I have reason to suspect you, I'm gonna go ahead and vote you.

VOTE: MAKARA

Such a bad vote.
If you have never heard of a reaction test vote, you are bad.

Oh I've HEARD of a reaction test vote before, I just don't like them. At all. Care to explain why anyone would ever reaction vote for a good reason?

[Trivium]

I don't like the Errant wagon. Seems to me like people are voting him for post 71, and I agree with his view on 71. I also think goodmorning looks town, however, we mustn't put too much trust in someone who isn't IC. And finally, I am a very self conscientious person. I like to think about how what I am saying affects other peoples view of me, and that's why I like playing mafia. Just my playstyle.

[Errantparabola]

Explain to me what a reaction test vote is, someone, and please justify it. From my perspective it looks like you're straight up lying about your intentions, and then when someone calls you out on it, you call that person scum while backtracking.
From my point of view, it's not good play. But I don't think it's necessarily scum play.
That leads in to my question to Trivium; where's your link to a play you don't like to a play you think scum would make? People have different playing philosophies, why is a philosophy that disagrees from yours scummy?

[Errantparabola]

It's an Open. I rarely take Opens seriously.

what
why

well, scum can and do reaction test, but parabola has deeply mischaracterised the nature of this test in particular in an attempt to make it seem scummy so he can push makara

i'm willing to hear you out on why it isn't scummy but i really need a justification. right now it feels like there's this piece of information that everyone is privy to that i'm missing out on.

[Brunneis]

Brunneis its pretty hypocritical to be slamming people on amount of posts this early especially when you only have 5 posts yourself.
Just yell at them to contribute more.

Its what I would do

Yes, but I've contributed to conversation in my posts. I will refrain from being as accusatory in the future, but I just wanted to push anyone who hasn't truly engaged with anybody here yet that they should. I'm not keen on fluff.

@Taly: I've been fairly busy. Don't like my images? That makes me sad. I'll stop posting them for now, I guess.

@FireHermit: What makes you say that about GM?

Don't be personal. I like how fun you can be. I just wanted to see you either explain yourself and/or, I wanted you to do something about it. You said you've been busy, and I understand that. That's all there is too it.

Also, I'm Brunneis. Not Taly.

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@Trivium

I'm inclined to disagree, but I feel a little suspicion on Errant.... However, why are reaction test votes such a bad thing? And why are you self-conscious as a "playstyle"? This sounds too inhibited.

[The Fire Hermit]

We will be applying pressure here for now

VOTE: Trivium

@Varsoon
I do not know my hydra partners reasoning, but we both share a townread on Goodmorning at the moment.

[Trivium]

Alriiiiiiight.

[Trivium]

By playstyle I meant I literally can't hope but look over my posts to see what other people might think about them. And yes, it is inhibiting. Thats why I play this, so I can learn to care less of what others think of me. Maybe that will help me though on later games when people check my meta. Nobody would be able to tell the difference between my scum and town play.

[Trivium]

I think that votes should be because someone already suspects someone, and voting for pressure seems like trying to lynch quickly to me.

[Varsoon]

I really don't have much to add, sadly.
If folks have questions for me, I'm around. I don't really know how to respond to Trivium's response to the IC pressure.

[Trivium]

I really don't have much to add, sadly.
If folks have questions for me, I'm around. I don't really know how to respond to Trivium's response to the IC pressure.

Why do you feel the need to explain why you haven't been posting?

[Ika Musume]

hi varsoon!

[The Fire Hermit]

My other scumreads are Brunneis and Makara

Triviums subtly defensive responce didn't do him any favors in my eyes

I am curious on Triviums scumreads

[The Fire Hermit]

At any rate, I do actually agree with Trivium about Makara, but the circumstances were odd, and I want to be sychronized with my hydra partner.

[Varsoon]

@Trivium: ...because people have been talking to me directly about it? I've been busy and people had stuff to say on it, and now I have more free time but I don't have much to add.

[duppin]

Trivium, what do you think about Brunneis?

[MaxwellPuckett]

I think that votes should be because someone already suspects someone, and voting for pressure seems like trying to lynch quickly to me.

Are you talking about someone in particular here? If so, I'm assuming you're talking about fire, in which case I have to wonder what the point of this post is. If I'm wrong there, then who are you talking to?

goodmorning: So, you're not going to be playing seriously? Good to know.

Varsoon: I like your gifs. Please answer all further questions in gif or image form. All of them, or you're auto-scum. Sorrys thems the rules

Also:

By playstyle I meant I literally can't hope but look over my posts to see what other people might think about them. And yes, it is inhibiting. Thats why I play this, so I can learn to care less of what others think of me. Maybe that will help me though on later games when people check my meta. Nobody would be able to tell the difference between my scum and town play.

I really don't have much to add, sadly.
If folks have questions for me, I'm around. I don't really know how to respond to Trivium's response to the IC pressure.

Why do you feel the need to explain why you haven't been posting?

Anyone else bothered when looking at these two posts together?

[Varsoon]

Well shit. Can I still type a bit in there or is it image only?

[Brunneis]

I think that votes should be because someone already suspects someone, and voting for pressure seems like trying to lynch quickly to me.

How is someone supposed to already suspect someone?

Pressure voting to check reactions is one way to get a better read on another player.

Your reactions are bugging both Brunnies' heads.

[Brunneis]

My other scumreads are Brunneis ...

Hermit, we aren't Scum.

[Brunneis]

I think Varsoon and Trivium could be Scum partners, though.