Mini 1727: Legends of the Hidden Temple II - Game Over!

[Firebringer]

Town Pool: Me, Titus, BBMolla, and Elbirn.

[Firebringer]

The thing with Suzune right now is anytime we seem to be pushing on a town she takes a step back and says we should hold on. This didn't happen with Kaito.
With Vedith I can't remember how she acted, but all I know is PB and Kaito she was insistent we wait.

It almost looks like she was fishing for some townie points. That and the bussing.

[Firebringer]

Well I have to edit previous statment. She only voted Vedith, not Kaito.

I guess all of that is not as good of argument in retrospect.
Still seems like she is trying to gain townie points by saying for us to be cautious.

[Suzune]

Oh joy, a read wall.

Davsto- Strikes me as town. Compares and looks at information. I would say he is a solid town. If you want me to go all parinoia on it. I would say that if there is a strong lurking mafia, it is probably him. I have seen any missteps in his game so far. People on mafiascum rarely double think after they have formed an opinion on someone so this is the perfect hand for a mafia to be holding.

Elbirn- His behavior and manner make me think he is probably town. Although I have seen him as mafia and therefore, I am a little less certain. However, he has not really been on my radar so I have nothing super interesting to say about him.

Firebringer- Regretfully I believe that Firebringer is town. I would love for him to be mafia because of his stunts and trickery. However, that is why I explained to Kaito that he is a trickster. So as much as I would love to lynch him for mafia, the chances are so small it would be a waste of the shot.

Molla- Is probably town. I felt like her frustration and her rant were genuine in nature. Also a lot of the posts are reactionary and quick which is a stunt that is not easily done as mafia because of the potential for missteps. A mafia usually wants a perfect game, one with a slick bit of polish on it, and Molla is all over the place. Which make me suspect that she is probably town.

Shiro- Uncertain. This one is very hard to explain. I know what my game is like because people have told me. I know what kinds of tricks I like to try. About halfway through the first day Shiro resonated with me. I thought, we have a good chemistry or a similar flow. Posts like this post 204 make me think she is town. As weird as it sounds, when I reread her history I get a lot of well Sala thought this or that. I am not getting a lot of what Shiro feels about the game and that is messing up my ability to read her.

Titus- I am beginning to wonder if you are the mafia. I have been wondering for a while. I mentioned it in the private topic with Kaito that I thought you were off your game or were looking at it weird. I did not see the cold calculation I expected of you. You need to constantly dig at Sala was weird and then you carried it over into metal Sonic. However, you suprised me by just dropping everything you had been pushing for two days. you wanted Sonic to answer you, you were going to hold out for Sonic, then just nothing. Complete one eighty. He is done talking. Seems odd to me.

VysePresident- Is a leaning scum for me. I usually am interested in the way he plays and the arguments that he presents. He is usually very discriptive and focused. Now either he does not enjoy this game or he is playing a different side. I have never seen Vyse as mafia before, but this does not look like his town game. The fact that he mentions he has suspicions but never tells us why seems odd to me to. In a game where making the case is half the battles since everyone is speed lynchers, one would think he would put some effort into those reads.

[Suzune]

Well I have to edit previous statment. She only voted Vedith, not Kaito.

I guess all of that is not as good of argument in retrospect.
Still seems like she is trying to gain townie points by saying for us to be cautious.

Do not feel bad. I want you to be mafia too. But alas, neither of us are.

[Firebringer]

I would be interested in your PT after game how you define "Trickster"

[Suzune]

I could tell you now, if you were dying of curiosity.

[Titus]

Well I have to edit previous statment. She only voted Vedith, not Kaito.

I guess all of that is not as good of argument in retrospect.
Still seems like she is trying to gain townie points by saying for us to be cautious.

On the contrary, the fact she didn't tell us to slow down yet not wanting to vote Kaito might be an association tell.

The whole "dropped the whole answer my questions thing" is a weird reason to scumread someone given Sonic flat out refused by saying something like "Refusing to answer questions isn't a scumtell". It's a pretty natural conclusion to draw that Sonic was not going to answer.

[Suzune]

It was one of your major motivations. I mean you hardly tried to get the answer to your questions. Even Shiro said she would not hammer until Metal Sonic talked. I just find it odd.

[BBmolla]

I think the scum are in: Shiro, Suzune, and VysePresident.

AGREED

[Titus]

God, crazy idea. Play this like resistance. We can't have the three of them challenge each other, use an RNG to pick the challenge. Then we all type but not vote who we'd vote in the challenge. No reasons at all. No discussion.

It forces player rankings and comparisons.

[BBmolla]

We should lynxh Suzune first

[BBmolla]

Titus there really isn't any reason to over complicate this

[Suzune]

So you want to have a mock challenge Titus?

[Suzune]

We should lynxh Suzune first

I never get lynched expect when I deserve it, except for that one time I was the town witchdoctor...but I mean what a terrible role to have to claim. So I would really rather not. However, that is just my general feelings about it.

[Titus]

@BB, How certain are you on that? I don't mind it. Elbrin disagrees and since he's not here I would rather not push that so hard until he can explain.

@Suzune, Sort of. Not feeling it strong enough to fight for it but I desperately need to break out of this.

[Firebringer]

I could tell you now, if you were dying of curiosity.

Sure, why not?

[Suzune]

Firebringer, I described a trickster as one who is tricky and can deceive others. Someone who pretends to be doing one thing in words and actions, but is really plotting something else. Someone whose agenda is not known well or easily seen by others. Kaito asked if I could give an example of something like that, and I sort of struggled to come up with one before deciding on Loki.

[Titus]

Anyone here????

[Firebringer]

I am.
Whats up Titus?

[Titus]

I am drunk. Ask me shit. Drinking might get me out of my own way. I'm bothered by the consensus so we need to take a fresh look at everything including you and I suppose you look at me. Ask me shit. Occasionally throw a basic assumption question in. Time to go back to start. Hit me.

[Firebringer]

Okay....
Do you still think we should do that whole Mock Challenge?

[Titus]

Yup. I still think mock challenge now and the lynched declaring next challenge are good. Control gets out of scum hands. I just got played so I want town in control.

[Firebringer]

Yup. I still think mock challenge now and the lynched declaring next challenge are good. Control gets out of scum hands. I just got played so I want town in control.

your strongest town read is BBmolla right?
Still feel same?

Strongest one for scum is suzune?
Still feel same due to consensus on Suzune I am kinda doubting it myself.

[Titus]

Yes on BB. No on Suzune. Scummy yes. Biggest no. That's Dave/Vyse.

Why you scumread Suzune?