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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:34 pm

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In post 449, Soapbar wrote:There's probably a few I'm forgetting but yeah. Scum has close to zero reason to keep her alive. The risks are too high for them.

It isn't like scum are going to NK her either way though, as I feel like your first scenario is one of the more possible ones (probably 1 or 6). I kind of agree with Glork on policy lynching her. That might be a good D2 lynch.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:57 pm

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ummm.
i just saw the deadline.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:13 am

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only 3 days to go. I'm alright with lynching Nosferatu.

VOTE: Nosferatu

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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:01 am

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uhh, I guess to clarify my stance, he isn't the worst lynch but I'm not confident of a scum flip at all.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:08 am

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Maxous, if I could lynch a player with only one vote it'd be you. For example, you're saying your post, under, took over 7 minutes?
In post 322, MarioManiac4 wrote:I just realised Shadoxx is actually confirmed scum
VOTE: Shadoxx
1. He knows how to vote.
2. He voted improperly.
3. Scum!Shadoxx does this to appear newb.
4. Town!Shadoxx does this because ?

In post 323, Maxous wrote:
In post 301, Annadog40 wrote:Hi Maxous!

well, thanks for the warm welcome :)

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i've done an initial read-through and am thinking of voting either Mario or Supercool.

Mario for his poor tunnel and generally not liking how he is formulating his reads, particulary his "meta" read on Radiant Cowbells
Supercool was really awkward and fake early on I thought, but I would like to re-check some of his stuff.

Not enthused by either current wagon, particularly the Soapbar one.

~ more later

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p-edit: and well *that* doesn't exactly endear me to Mario either


Unfortunately, with three days until deadline we can't really do that.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:49 am

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In post 432, makara wrote:Maybe because I am more experienced now???

I don't think you should be using someone's first newbie game as a basis for their meta.


I'm using your language, your approach to the game. You were more articulate and confident there than here.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:58 am

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In post 437, Slandaar wrote:
In post 427, Firesong wrote:
In post 404, Slandaar wrote:Fire do you have an opinion about Mario?


I think he's town. I have you and RC as town, Soapbar and Supercool as scum, everybody else null.

I find this incredibly strange.
In post 322, MarioManiac4 wrote:I just realised Shadoxx is actually confirmed scum
VOTE: Shadoxx
1. He knows how to vote.
2. He voted improperly.
3. Scum!Shadoxx does this to appear newb.
4. Town!Shadoxx does this because ?

In post 324, MarioManiac4 wrote:dislike it more.
see my last post.
there is no reason for shadoxx to ever be town.
none.

In post 377, Firesong wrote:Only scum know Shadoxx's alignment. No one knows his role. Lynching an empty slot is like random lynching, you have no clue who you're taking out. It's lazy and antitown.

If I can get lynched for merely suggesting it, it's because it's something Scum do all the time. So yes, Supercool is scum

etc

Can you explain this to me?


Are you saying that I can only townread those that I'm 100% in agreement with?

He's full of shit on his Shadoxx read. But, he seems genuine, at least I'm not getting any gut pings.

My theory on the whole Lynch Shaddoxx thing is that he was low hanging fruit. Scum like low hanging fruit, but Town likes it just as much.

Do you think Mario is Town?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:00 am

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In post 448, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 447, makara wrote:
In post 446, Soapbar wrote:I still think Nos is the best lynch.

He's not the most scummy player, Annadog takes that spot but she either dies tonight as town or lives as scum (and promptly gets lynched the next day)


This doesn't make sense. Wouldn't scum let townAnnadog live so that she would be easy lynch fodder for day 2?

Annadog is pretty obviously not a VT. Just so you know. :/


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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:03 am

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Hey Slandaar, Mario just dropped to Leaning Scum. ^ ^ ^
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:11 am

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In post 455, Firesong wrote:
In post 432, makara wrote:Maybe because I am more experienced now???

I don't think you should be using someone's first newbie game as a basis for their meta.


I'm using your language, your approach to the game. You were more articulate and confident there than here.


In addition
1) I have a lot more ongoing games now
2) I replaced in
3) Most of the players here are more experienced than me
4) I was V/LA for some time.

Of course my playstyle is going to be different here.

I'm pretty sure you're scum just looking to hop on an easy wagon.

On the deadline, I would be OK with lynching Annadog, Nosferatu or Firesong today. I will have a full reads post later
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:34 am

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@makara, are you just going to ignore the defense post that you wanted me to make?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:34 am

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Votecount 1.08


Nosferatu (6) - Annadog40, Soapbar, Glork, makara, MarioManiac4, Rory
makara (2) - Maxous, Firesong
Firesong (2) - Nosferatu, supercool898
Annadog40 (1) - Smudger
Soapbar (1) - RadiantCowbells
Rory (1) - Slandaar

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-10-20 08:54:05)
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:54 am

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Spoiler: My reads
Town Reads

Glork - Strong scumhunting, good insight on the game. There's nothing that I find scummy about his play, so that earns him a strong townread.

Town Leans

Soapbar - I'm not sure what the reason people are scumreading him is. The dayvig gambit seemed town-motivated, but there is a possibility of a Soapbar/supercool scumteam. If one flips scum, the other should probably be looked at much closer. Otherwise, I like much of what he's posting and it makes sense to me. Overall seems town-motivated.
supercool898 - Same as Soapbar. Although he stuck with claiming town throughout the dayvig gambit his reaction seemed disingenuous, which I talked about in my catch up post, which he didn't respond to either.
Slandaar - Again, good logic and insight in the game. Strong scumread, most of what he posts is logical and coherent.

Null Reads

RadiantCowbells - Started out strong but since then hasn't done much. @RC do you still have no scumreads?
MarioManiac4 - Him not linking the game he was talking about for his meta argument irked me and overall I dislike meta arguments. Otherwise there's not too much else that pops out at me.
Maxous - Shadoxx's RVS vote was scummy but I think that since Maxous has replaced in he has been pretty good with questioning. I'm listing him as null since there's nothing jumping out that's super towny or super scummy.

Scum Leans

Smudger - Barely more posts than Annadog. He barely has any content other than parking a vote on Annadog and then FoSing me for agreeing that Annadog is scummy.
Rory - His scumhunting is weak, and has been tunneling Mario for most of day.

Scum Reads

Firesong - Has been riding on her Soapbar "scumread" all day and I expect her to do the same thing with her "scumread" on me tomorrow. Additionally, has been doing some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to justify a lot of her positions.
Annadog40 - This one doesn't need any explaining. Should be vigged tonight.
Nosferatu - Glork's case on him made sense and he's been kinda "active-lurking" all day. I dislike the way he responded to Glork's case on him.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 am

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@Nosferatu, you already made one defense post but if you want to make another be my guest.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:59 am

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Upon ISO review I am okay with Rory lynch and think it's kinda realistic.

unvote, vote: rory


I didn't realise how much he had tunnel coasted on Mario.
Plus I'm not so sure about my makara read anymore

@Mario: yes the post very possibly took longer than 7 mins to write, what is your point?
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:08 am

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Now that the wagon on my is dissipating, expect Firesong to change her focus in 3...... 2.......
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:19 am

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makara wrote:
Town Reads

Glork - Strong scumhunting, good insight on the game. There's nothing that I find scummy about his play, so that earns him a strong townread.

Town Leans
Soapbar - I'm not sure what the reason people are scumreading him is. The dayvig gambit seemed town-motivated, but there is a possibility of a Soapbar/supercool scumteam. If one flips scum, the other should probably be looked at much closer. Otherwise, I like much of what he's posting and it makes sense to me. Overall seems town-motivated.

why is it town-motivated?


supercool898 - Same as Soapbar.
Although he stuck with claiming town throughout the dayvig gambit his reaction seemed disingenuous, which I talked about in my catch up post, which he didn't respond to either
.

Why is he in town leans then?


Slandaar - Again, good logic and insight in the game. Strong scumread, most of what he posts is logical and coherent.

Having a strong scumread is townish?


Null Reads

RadiantCowbells - Started out strong but since then hasn't done much. @RC do you still have no scumreads?
MarioManiac4 - Him not linking the game he was talking about for his meta argument irked me and overall I dislike meta arguments. Otherwise there's not too much else that pops out at me.

If everything you do notice about him bothers you, why is he in null?


Maxous - Shadoxx's RVS vote was scummy but I think that since Maxous has replaced in he has been pretty good with questioning. I'm listing him as null since there's nothing jumping out that's super towny or super scummy.

Scum Leans

Smudger - Barely more posts than Annadog. He barely has any content other than parking a vote on Annadog and then FoSing me for agreeing that Annadog is scummy.
Rory - His scumhunting is weak, and has been tunneling Mario for most of day.

Scum Reads

Firesong - Has been riding on her Soapbar "scumread" all day and I expect her to do the same thing with her "scumread" on me tomorrow.

but Slaandar is being townread for also keeping a strong scumread and sticking with it?


Additionally, has been doing some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to justify a lot of her positions.
Annadog40 - This one doesn't need any explaining. Should be vigged tonight.
Nosferatu - Glork's case on him made sense and he's been kinda "active-lurking" all day. I dislike the way he responded to Glork's case on him.

Do you wanna actually state something original on this one?




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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:24 am

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In post 466, Nosferatu wrote:
makara wrote:
Town Reads

Glork - Strong scumhunting, good insight on the game. There's nothing that I find scummy about his play, so that earns him a strong townread.

Town Leans
Soapbar - I'm not sure what the reason people are scumreading him is. The dayvig gambit seemed town-motivated, but there is a possibility of a Soapbar/supercool scumteam. If one flips scum, the other should probably be looked at much closer. Otherwise, I like much of what he's posting and it makes sense to me. Overall seems town-motivated.

why is it town-motivated?

I don't know, maybe because it helps town?



supercool898 - Same as Soapbar.
Although he stuck with claiming town throughout the dayvig gambit his reaction seemed disingenuous, which I talked about in my catch up post, which he didn't respond to either
.

Why is he in town leans then?

Same as Soapbar. Apply what I said about soapbar to supercool.


Slandaar - Again, good logic and insight in the game. Strong scumread, most of what he posts is logical and coherent.

Having a strong scumread is townish?

It was supposed to say scumhunting


Null Reads

RadiantCowbells - Started out strong but since then hasn't done much. @RC do you still have no scumreads?
MarioManiac4 - Him not linking the game he was talking about for his meta argument irked me and overall I dislike meta arguments. Otherwise there's not too much else that pops out at me.

If everything you do notice about him bothers you, why is he in null?

because there is not much that's alignment indicative from him Imo.


Maxous - Shadoxx's RVS vote was scummy but I think that since Maxous has replaced in he has been pretty good with questioning. I'm listing him as null since there's nothing jumping out that's super towny or super scummy.

Scum Leans

Smudger - Barely more posts than Annadog. He barely has any content other than parking a vote on Annadog and then FoSing me for agreeing that Annadog is scummy.
Rory - His scumhunting is weak, and has been tunneling Mario for most of day.

Scum Reads

Firesong - Has been riding on her Soapbar "scumread" all day and I expect her to do the same thing with her "scumread" on me tomorrow.

but Slaandar is being townread for also keeping a strong scumread and sticking with it?

Read answer above


Additionally, has been doing some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to justify a lot of her positions.
Annadog40 - This one doesn't need any explaining. Should be vigged tonight.
Nosferatu - Glork's case on him made sense and he's been kinda "active-lurking" all day. I dislike the way he responded to Glork's case on him.

Do you wanna actually state something original on this one?

I plead the fifth




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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:21 am

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So, since we're probably going to lynch me, what're you guys going to do when I flip town? Like who's scum and who's town from what's happened so far.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:23 am

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NOS STOP FUCKING TOWNTELLING.
GAH.
THERE'S NOBODY ELSE I WANT TO LYNCH WITH THIS DEADLINE.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:33 am

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Nosferatu lynch is OK I guess.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:43 am

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If Nos happens to flip town I know who I would reconsider. That said, I'm not going to get into that heading into night. Don't want to help scum select their kill/actions.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:15 pm

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Reads (town > scum)

Slandar > Glork/MM4 > Smudge/RC |possible scum starts here| Max/makara/Rory > Super/Soap (if one flips town, the other is probably town, if one flips scum, this opposite) > Fire

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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:17 pm

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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:18 pm

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(I am going to stick with Rory)

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