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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:19 am

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Congratulations on not seeing yourself as scum with another player?
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:26 am

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I am sorry but I gave a decent explanation (in my humble opinion) to Mario reasons why I am scum. He had not given a response to my reply. He had not explain why my answers were wrong and why I am scum.
I explained my reasoning for why I was thinking for CMM being town by getting ran up. I also challenge him to explain why I am scum over being just a misguided town on both points.

His push on my has been full of emotional manipulation. It took several times to give a reason for his scum read. Now he is given a emotional manipulative attack on Vedith. Yes Vedith could be scum but right now Mario is sounding more and more like desperate scum trying not to be lynched, I am tending to lean a Mario scum over a Vedith scum at this point.

Cat why do you think Vedith is possible scum?
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:30 am

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In post 725, catboi wrote:Congratulations on not seeing yourself as scum with another player?


Thanks, took a lot of effort to see it...
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:40 am

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Vedith
Do you think Cat is scum or just misguided town. Why do think the way you do?

BTW I think that Cat is misguided town here,,,,,,
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:47 am

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Well going by the earlier posts I would say town... Cat is more focused on everyone and even thinks CMM as scummy, so as I really think CMM/Mario is scum here I'd push them two apart.
Recently I don't see the same mind set as before but that's most likely because the game is slow.

Why do I think CMM/Mario is scum? I thought from the moment I joined in they had an anti town slot. I originally thought SK and even though most people thought it we ended up lynching Performer who was the SK as they didn't want to lynch the SK - Irony, eh?
I think the push away from his wagon which was looking good was scum de railed. Mario gives me the scum Mario vibe rather than town Mario. So there's that...
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:01 pm

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If you are not sure Mario is scum than it might be best to let this go to a non lynch....better a no lynch than a mislynch. If you are 90 percent or higher that Mario is scum than you should vote for him. You should do what you think is best for the town and make sure the town has a chance of winning,

I do think that Mario is playing a emotional manipulative game here, He had very little chance of getting lynched but he over reacted anyways...that and being real dodgy with his answers. If someone wants to provr mr wrong I am willing to listen but as I said before I think Mario is prob the best chance of hitting scum.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:16 pm

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there was no need to OMGUS vote me after I voted him. He had very little worry of a counter wagon. Just my opinion he worried that he got caught and slipped. Also he could not give a strong reason why I am scum. If he was town than he should build a decent case against me if I was scum. Scum has to fabricate and manipulate facts. I think my vote caught him off guard and when he tried to push back he realized he could not argue a strong case. Maybe its me but he sounds more and more like desperate scum that is beginning to flair.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:06 pm

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In post 726, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Cat why do you think Vedith is possible scum?

I never suggested that?

I thought his push on conman's slot when he replaced in was understandable, but his lack of content otherwise is worrying.

Not that mario's really done much better. He's really underwhelming me here. Don't like the fact that he's mostly just been quoting posts from fuzzy and saying "this makes no sense"

Looks like we're headed for a no-lynch anyway. If I die lynch CDB pls
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:24 pm

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oh, I thought 725 was referring to Vedith ...guess I am wrong

a no lynch would not be terrible....though it puts us in a bad position tomorrow
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:54 am

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The first thing in this game that makes me think that Cavane might be scum is that, with one town vote (mine) not really doing anything Today, scum haven't nudged towards a wagon of their preference. This feels like a scenario in which scum could really stranglehold things on a town wagon but that's not happened even with so little time to deadline.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:55 am

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No lynch achieves nothing; we have a confirmed mason. But then Anen's sitting on a solo wagon so maybe we don't lose much.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:56 am

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Judging purely on the vote count, it might even be that Fuzzy and Mario are both scum; that would explain scum's lack of ability to push elsewhere once they've entrenched themselves, each one looking for credit on Day 4 after a bus.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:34 am

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I coloured up the vote counts to see if it would help. I wish we had a mafia flip but this is all we can get. I figure the Day 1 stuff must have something useful in it somewhere:

Spoiler: Day 1
In post 17, Draynth wrote:
Bacde
(3):
Kyubey The Kid
, Liger_Zero, Kaiser B
Cavane (1):
Aneninen

EverydayMuffin
(1):
BananaCucho

Aneninen
(1):
Duppin

Guyett
(1):
Evvenomous

Not Voting (6):
Guyett
, ConManMick,
EverydayMuffin
,
Bacde
, TheWorst, Cavane


In post 100, Draynth wrote:
Bacde
(3):
Cavane, KaiserB, Liger_Zero
Guyett
(3):
EverydayMuffin
, Evvenomous,
Kyubey The Kid

Cavane (1):
Aneninen

ConManMick (1):
TheWorst
Aneninen
(1):
Duppin

EverydayMuffin
(1):
Bacde

Bacde
(1):
BananaCucho

Kyubey The Kid
(1):
ConManMick

Not Voting (1):
Guyett
.


In post 127, Draynth wrote:
Bacde
(3):
, KaiserB, Liger_Zero,
Aneninen

Guyett
(3):
EverydayMuffin
, Evvenomous, Cavane
Cavane (3):
BananaCucho
,
Guyett
,
Duppin

ConManMick (1):
TheWorst
Kyubey The Kid
(1):
ConManMick
EverydayMuffin
(1):
Bacde


Not Voting (1):
Kyubey The Kid


In post 184, Draynth wrote:
Bacde
(5):
KaiserB, Liger_Zero,
Aneninen
,
Kyubey The Kid
, Evvenomous
(L-2)

KaiserB (2):
Bacde, BananaCucho

Cavane (2):
Guyett
,
Duppin

Guyett
(1):
Cavane
ConManMick (1):
TheWorst
Kyubey The Kid
(1):
ConManMick

Not Voting (1):
EverydayMuffin


In post 300, Draynth wrote:
Bacde
(3):
KaiserB,
Aneninen
, Evvenomous,
BananaCucho
(3):
Guyett
,
Kyubey The Kid
,
EverydayMuffin

Cavane (2):
,
Duppin
, Liger_Zero
KaiserB (1):
Bacde

Guyett
(1):
Cavane
Kyubey The Kid
(1):
ConManMick

Not Voting (2):
BananaCucho
, The Worst


In post 309, Draynth wrote:
BananaCucho
(LYNCH):
Guyett
,
Kyubey The Kid
,
EverydayMuffin
, Evvenomous, Liger_Zero, Cavane, ConManMick
Bacde
(2):
KaiserB,
Aneninen

Cavane (1):
Duppin

KaiserB (1):
Bacde


Not Voting (2):
BananaCucho
, TheWorst


last two vote counts were corrected because the mod counted TheWorst's unvote but did not put him back among 'not voting'


Spoiler: Day 2
In post 330, Draynth wrote:
ConManMick (4):
Vedith,
Kyubey The Kid
,
EverydayMuffin
, Evvenomous

Not Voting (6):
Cavane, ConManMick,
Aneninen
, TheWorst, Liger_Zero,
Duppin


In post 373, Draynth wrote:
ConManMick (4):
Vedith,
Kyubey The Kid
, Cavane, Evvenomous
Vedith (1):
Aneninen

Kyubey The Kid
(1):
ChannelBird


Not Voting (4):
EverydayMuffin
, ConManMick, TheWorst, Liger_Zero


In post 411, Draynth wrote:
ConManMick (4):
Vedith,
Performer
, Cavane, Evvenomous
Aneninen
(2):
RadiantCowbells,
ChannelDelibird

Vedith (1):
Aneninen


Not Voting (3):
EverydayMuffin
, ConManMick, Liger_Zero


In post 437, Draynth wrote:
ConManMick (4):
Vedith,
Performer
, Cavane, Evvenomous
EverydayMuffin
(3):
ChannelDelibird
, RadiantCowbells, ConManMick
Vedith (1):
Aneninen


Not Voting (2):
EverydayMuffin
, Liger_Zero


In post 477, Draynth wrote:
Inanity
(4):
ChannelDelibird
, ConManMick, Vedith,
Performer

Cavane (2):
Catboi,
Inanity

ConManMick (1):
Cavane
Evvenomous (1):
RadiantCowbells
Vedith (1):
Aneninen


Not Voting (1):
Evvenomous


In post 572, Draynth wrote:
Performer
(4):
Inanity
, RadiantCowbells,
ChannelDelibird
, Cavane
RadiantCowbells(1):
TheFuzzyLogic99
Inanity
(1):
ConManMick
Cavane (1):
Aneninen

TheFuzzyLogic99 (1):
Performer


Not Voting (2):
Vedith, Catboi


Final vote count wrote:
Performer
(4):
Inanity
, RadiantCowbells,
ChannelDelibird
, Cavane, Vedith, Catboi
RadiantCowbells(1):
TheFuzzyLogic99
Inanity
(1):
ConManMick
Cavane (1):
Aneninen

TheFuzzyLogic99 (1):
Performer


Not Voting (0):
none


Not as many conclusions that we can take as we would with a scumflip but it does make me think the following:

The odds say that:
Scum pressured Bacde. Did KaiserB/Liger/EVvenomous know that he was town?
Scum piled onto the Banana lynch late. Did EVvenomous/Liger/Cavane/Mick know that he was town?

Why did Inanity die over Aneninen? This isn't really inspired by how the vote counts look so much as I remembered that scum had to choose which mason died, and that could be useful.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:31 am

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#work so won't be able to finish these thoughts until later tonight but I'll look to answer those questions as best as I can when I'm back
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:49 am

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Day 3, Votecount 4
TheFuzzyLogic99 (2): RadiantCowbells, MarioManiac4
(L - 3)

MarioManiac4 (2): Vedith, TheFuzzylogic99
(L - 3)

ChannelDeliBird (1): Catboi

Catboi (1): Aneninen

RadiantCowbells(0):
Cavane (0):
Vedith (0):
Aneninen (0):

Not Voting (2):
ChannelDelibird , Cavane,
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If you notice a mistake in any of the votecounts, please don't hesitate to let me know either in thread or via pm.


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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:59 am

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In post 736, ChannelDelibird wrote:Judging purely on the vote count, it might even be that Fuzzy and Mario are both scum


RC - What's your view on this?
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:07 am

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NO
STOP VCA
DIOSApkoa[\a#'qs#
d#
awp[ksaek[odaj9asd][
]s'dv
d'#vds]'
vfs];
f[
;f;#[ldvlfs[v[fefe0iw]ofjio'fsko
[d]z~fvh'udoi[
vpojihdfhjp
][ssvfp#s=-r09s87ey
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:13 am

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In post 741, MarioManiac4 wrote:NO
STOP VCA
DIOSApkoa[\a#'qs#
d#
awp[ksaek[odaj9asd][
]s'dv
d'#vds]'
vfs];
f[
;f;#[ldvlfs[v[fefe0iw]ofjio'fsko
[d]z~fvh'udoi[
vpojihdfhjp
][ssvfp#s=-r09s87ey


huh??????
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:22 am

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In post 742, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:
In post 741, MarioManiac4 wrote:NO
STOP VCA
DIOSApkoa[\a#'qs#
d#
awp[ksaek[odaj9asd][
]s'dv
d'#vds]'
vfs];
f[
;f;#[ldvlfs[v[fefe0iw]ofjio'fsko
[d]z~fvh'udoi[
vpojihdfhjp
][ssvfp#s=-r09s87ey


huh??????

vca is bad for you
proof; http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p7266290
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:27 am

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I get the VCA thing...I was talking about all the gibberish underneath. was that intentional?????
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:33 am

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In post 744, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I get the VCA thing...I was talking about all the gibberish underneath. was that intentional?????

yes
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:38 am

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my view is I don't give a fuck I'm not lynching anyone besides Fuzzy today.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:46 am

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II. Do not use invisible, encrypted, or ridiculously small text. Everything posted in the game thread should be public

if it is some code than its illegal
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:52 am

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In post 747, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:II. Do not use invisible, encrypted, or ridiculously small text. Everything posted in the game thread should be public

if it is some code than its illegal

Are you actually serious?
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:59 am

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If it just you goofing off than no problem..if its some code than its illegal..thats it
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