Secret Alt Mafia 2 – Game over!

[the_soothsayer]

The fuck? How does you alt slipping (lol) lead towards you selfvoting? Is that a scum claim?

[xXSexyKumquatXx]

UNVOTE: VOTE: cell phone

silly kumquat.

[the_soothsayer]

Huh, you've lost me. Did you forget you were Kumquat and if so how, didn't you choose the alt name less than 48 hours ago?

Really going to need more from you, it doesn't need to be a "huge wall" but I'd at least like some reads with reasoning.

[Shady]

The fuck? How does you alt slipping (lol) lead towards you selfvoting? Is that a scum claim?

answer is probably not but fighting this seems largely futile given the people wagoning

i wouldn't mind seeing a reads list but i'm also not the target audience here

[xXSexyKumquatXx]

that I can do!

Town
Gumby - that was incredibly obvious town
Shady
Sooth
dead to me

Scum
Cell
Qualford
Spider Gwen

rest are null for the most part. still getting my head around all the names

[the_soothsayer]

Can you explain the scum read on Spider Gwen for me, that's probably the only read there I strongly disagree with.

[xXSexyKumquatXx]

Weakest of the 3 for sure. If I was going into more detail I would have put null-scum. She has a small tendancy to fence sit during fights that sorta bothers me. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this is OMGUS on my part, but its honestly how I feel right now.

Tomorrow is my big day where I can do big stuff. I understand that is deadline. We can rock this tomorrow.

[the_soothsayer]

I won't be here tomorrow (in fact in 30 minutes I finish work and am without a computer for the weekend) so I'd like to sort whatever I can right now.

We can start with an explanation behind that selfvote because I'm sort of worried it was an attempt to selfhammer and you'd realised it was only L-1 afterwards. I can't really buy that you forgot that you were Kumquat at all so explain how that move makes any sense to me coming from town.

[xXSexyKumquatXx]

Guilt.

Fixed it. Now I want to play. Not stupid, wouldn't self hammer as either alignment and also I would definitely check vote.

Lets play ball. Don't lynch me.

[Shady]

i need some level of explanation because without context it doesn't mean a whole lot to me

i have more or less no intention of voting you but i'm pessimistic about anything else happening and do want to get some thoughts, at least

[the_soothsayer]

Eh.

Still think I prefer a CellPhone lynch here, there's absolutely nothing inside his ISO that looks remotely town and screams scum trying to coast through the day -- I don't buy that town would consistently keep up with the thread in the manner he clearly is while not adding anything other than a pot shot here or there.

Would really appreciate people switching across.

[CellPhone]

cellphone who do you think is scum

Definitely kumquat. Probably mega (but could be troll, so it's a weak scumread).

Phantom of the Opera is almost definitely scum, I just feel it.

To much lesser degrees, dipsy-doodle (largely for the lurking; yeah yeah pot kettle laugh it up already), dead to me, and soothsayer.

i dont think hes unlikely to get lynched

but that has the feel of a convenient read

There's quite a few people town reading Quailford and more that seem unwilling to change from Kumquat so I'd say it's fairly unlikely whereas Cell has a genuine chance of going through

and is actually scum

.

This just feels like a scumslip. Sometimes scum tend to magnify their targets to ridiculous levels.

VOTE: kumquat

[CellPhone]

Oh, and Kumquat is at

L-1.

[Concorde]

After kumquat flips scum, I am not opposed to a turbo lynch on CellPhone tomorrow. CellPhone's last post is absurd. The "actually" scum comment is not a slip at all. Soothsayer is stating that Cellphone is actually scum while Kumquat is not. The only way to argue that's a "slip" is to argue that Soothsayer knows Cellphone is "actually scum" because they are buddies. Somehow, I don't think that's Cellphone's argument.

[CellPhone]

That isn't my argument.

But how do you know what soothsayer meant? Are you buddies with them?

[the_soothsayer]

But how do you know what soothsayer meant?

Because that's literally what I said? It's ridiculously obvious that the "is actually scum" comment is about you so you trying to call that a scumslip is effectively you calling yourself scum.

[Greatvalue]

VOTE: Cellphone This is where I want to be after comparing both of the main candidates' posts on this page. Cellphone's vote post looks a lot more scum motivated than anything Kumquat said here.

I think we have a day left too, so if you could all hold off on lynching for less than half that time for me to catch up after my duties, that would be great.

[Greatvalue]

Yes, 1 day and 5 hours just about right now.

[Greatvalue]

UNVOTE: Actually no, I'm not okay with limiting things to these two just yet.

Took a quick look at some more previous posts and I'm struck by the number of people expressing absolute certainty about one or both of Kumquat/Cell being scum in the last page and a half. I actually can't tell without more context if that's serious or if people are just trying to be cool and play up the magnitude of their personalities in an alt game. Either way, it's doing nothing for me but making me fear it's a toxic town/town split, especially considering how often I've seen this mistake popping up in divided towns lately.

Again, please hold with me. I know I've been absent, but the threat of speeding the lynch, especially Kumquat at L-1 at this junction is actually very frightening right now and I want to get the whole picture when I return in a few hours.

Please also allow Kumquat to return and post tomorrow as well. I'm saying this with the full knowledge that should they be quicklynched and flip scum it'll reflect badly on me, but right now I do want to hear them get it together.

Until very soon,

Greatvalue

[Quailford LOL]

very frightening right now

LOL

Maybe you can start by explaining what you find so townie about both these player slots that you'd want to defend them harder than they are defending themselves.

I am all ears.

[Shiba Tatsuya]

Shouldn't Dimitri's identity be revealed for replacing out?

I'll be back before deadline. For now, leaning towards a Cellphone lynch instead of the kumquat.

Although he hasn't done very good posting. It's downright terrible, and is the main reason why I am even considering hammering him. Considering.

[Gumby]

Shouldn't Dimitri's identity be revealed for replacing out?

Um, no? We play blind, totally. Giving us a way to meta them defeats the entire goddamn point of the game. I don't get why you joined a game where the whole point is "you don't know who anyone is so you can't meta them" and then you proceed to try your best to figure out everyone's main. It's completely against the point of the game.[/quote]
Fine with either CellPhone or Kumquat, but preferring Kumquat.

[Gumby]

Sorry about that go at Shiba, but it's been something that's bugging me all game. It's like playing Kingmaker while making a regular votecount with people's votes and then forcing the King to hammer once someone reaches majority. If you join a game where the point is something, you should play to that point, and the fact that Shiba is doing so is irritating me beyond the game itself.

[Gumby]

i.e., I'm not reading it, it's just a pain.

[Shiba Tatsuya]

Name and shame, although you may hold different principles.