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Titus · Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:19 pm

@FAQ2,

I'm still pretty sure that DGB/FB has at least one scum.

Yet, can you count the bodies if I'm wrong and just put who all is left alive if we lynch FB shoot DGB and let's suppose I die because I'm town. What's the math there?

FA_Q2 · Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:25 pm

The math would be we lose. What is your point?

FA_Q2 · Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:26 pm

You do realize I am already on fire, right?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:27 pm

In post 2950, Titus wrote:I'm still pretty sure that DGB/FB has at least one scum.

Stahp it we're both town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:29 pm

In post 2950, Titus wrote:FB shoot DGB

Great plan, let's lynch one townie and shoot the other!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:29 pm

In post 2948, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 2938, Titus wrote:Their bp doc?

Yes - towns BP Doc. Read the statements I made AND the tense that they were in.

He drove TOWN to lynch THEIR doc. That should not be difficult to understand. You are digging for slips that are not there.

How do you feel now about Titus's crap "cases" after that "scumslip" of yours?

Luna Fox · Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:59 pm

In post 2947, Performer wrote:Hmm Luna's case on IaI what on earth..?...

Uhh, that's not a case? that's just me conveying why i think it's better to lynch IaI.

Luna Fox · Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:00 pm

Also im wondering where did FB's "Vigs always shoot town" go, he decided to instead say im scum for jumping towards IaI.

Titus · Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:07 pm

In post 2951, FA_Q2 wrote:The math would be we lose. What is your point?

Type it out please. I'm drunk.

Performer · Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:10 pm

@mod can we PLEASE get CDB replaced

his inactivity in this game is appalling!

Firebringer · Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:14 pm

In post 2957, Luna Fox wrote:Also im wondering where did FB's "Vigs always shoot town" go, he decided to instead say im scum for jumping towards IaI.

they do always shoot town.

I am just being paranoid a bit.

TheWorst · Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:49 pm

How many scum do you guys think was on that AJ wagon?

I'm willing to bet at least one, maybe two.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:57 pm

In post 2958, Titus wrote:
In post 2951, FA_Q2 wrote:The math would be we lose. What is your point?

Type it out please. I'm drunk.

Well, so far those that are left alive are:

Performer
Titus
TheWorst
ChannelDelibird
Vedith
Luna Fox
I Am Innocent
FA_Q2
Firebringer
DrippingGoofball

If we take out the three you suggest:
Performer
TheWorst
ChannelDelibird
Vedith
Luna Fox
I Am Innocent
FA_Q2

That leaves 7. If there is a 3 man scum team we would have one more day. I am not totally confident that there are 3 scum though - we have some epic PR roles and it does not appear that scum have a RB and we really do not know about a strongman. We are back to setup spec again with that though and that worked out terribly last time around. Again, what is your point with this?

FA_Q2 · Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:00 pm

In post 2955, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2948, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 2938, Titus wrote:Their bp doc?

Yes - towns BP Doc. Read the statements I made AND the tense that they were in.

He drove TOWN to lynch THEIR doc. That should not be difficult to understand. You are digging for slips that are not there.

How do you feel now about Titus's crap "cases" after that "scumslip" of yours?

Titus case against you has nothing to do with titus at all and everything to do with basic logic. Why would this change the case already made against you?

Then add in the craptastic response you had when I made a comment as well as the immediate OMGUS and you really don't have a whole lot of room to talk.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:01 pm

In post 2961, TheWorst wrote:How many scum do you guys think was on that AJ wagon?

I'm willing to bet at least one, maybe two.

Well, DGB and FB were there so....

Titus · Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:18 pm

In post 2962, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 2958, Titus wrote:
In post 2951, FA_Q2 wrote:The math would be we lose. What is your point?

Type it out please. I'm drunk.

Well, so far those that are left alive are:

Performer
Titus
TheWorst
ChannelDelibird
Vedith
Luna Fox
I Am Innocent
FA_Q2
Firebringer
DrippingGoofball

If we take out the three you suggest:
Performer
TheWorst
ChannelDelibird
Vedith
Luna Fox
I Am Innocent
FA_Q2

That leaves 7. If there is a 3 man scum team we would have one more day. I am not totally confident that there are 3 scum though - we have some epic PR roles and it does not appear that scum have a RB and we really do not know about a strongman. We are back to setup spec again with that though and that worked out terribly last time around. Again, what is your point with this?

Failsafe.

Rule 1 is count the bodies as town. Don't make sure that you'd lose the game if wrong.

Titus · Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:19 pm

In post 2961, TheWorst wrote:How many scum do you guys think was on that AJ wagon?

I'm willing to bet at least one, maybe two.

Which wagon do you mean? I'm presuming the lynched one.

That's the whole reason why the lynch 1 shoot the other plan is in play.

I Am Innocent · Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:00 pm

In post 2943, Luna Fox wrote:Ok so
Im not sure Mafia Vig is considered Normal, so i'll put that on the back burner for now, granted there's 3 possibilities for IaI's role: Town Vigilante, Serial Killer, Werewolf (or some other faction name, but for the sake of simplicity i'll call them werewolves). This puts us at 3 possibilities, 4 townies are dead

6-2-2
6-3-1
7-3

Going with either of the first 2 and being wrong today means we likely lose unless scum cross kills. Even in the later one mislynch + misvig = 4-3 which is LyLo.
BUT if IaI is NOT town and it's one of the first 2, this would put us at 3-2-2 or 3-3-1, in which case town doesnt really control the lynch anymore.
Given this i rather take the risk and lynch IaI which would give us more breathing room and would have a 66% chance of netting scum, and also would make the secondary kill dissapear on 66% of the cases.

On other news FAQ is as much as confirmed town unless this is multiball (and they are both werewolves) so if IaI flips anything but werewolf FAQ would become confirmed town, which gives me even more reason to want to lynch IaI.
Reasoning being FAQ is proven to have protected a townie unless both FAQ and IaI are lying as brought up by Titus previously, and the only way this would happen is if they are a separate mafia faction. On top of that if IaI doesnt flip werewolf FAQ is (possibly?) proven to still have a 1-shot BP which is a great boon for someone that's about to be conf town since scum cant easily kill them and on top of that can interfere with their kill.

--On another note--

I also disagree scum doesn't Bus D1, i came out of a game where scum literally cross bused each other (12p open 3 scum) on Day 1.

VOTE: IaI

You are aware that in all 3 of those instances I'm a danger to the scum team (or other scum team in the case of multi ball)

So your suggestion is to lynch someone who is a high NK target, just to confirm another player? Someone who in all 3 cases would be highly motivated to hit scum at this point in the game? Maybe I'm biased cause I know my alignment, but that doesn't feel like the right play to me...

I Am Innocent · Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:03 pm

In post 2966, Titus wrote:
In post 2961, TheWorst wrote:How many scum do you guys think was on that AJ wagon?

I'm willing to bet at least one, maybe two.

Which wagon do you mean? I'm presuming the lynched one.

That's the whole reason why the lynch 1 shoot the other plan is in play.

In post 2965, Titus wrote:
In post 2962, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 2958, Titus wrote:
In post 2951, FA_Q2 wrote:The math would be we lose. What is your point?

Type it out please. I'm drunk.

Well, so far those that are left alive are:

Performer
Titus
TheWorst
ChannelDelibird
Vedith
Luna Fox
I Am Innocent
FA_Q2
Firebringer
DrippingGoofball

If we take out the three you suggest:
Performer
TheWorst
ChannelDelibird
Vedith
Luna Fox
I Am Innocent
FA_Q2

That leaves 7. If there is a 3 man scum team we would have one more day. I am not totally confident that there are 3 scum though - we have some epic PR roles and it does not appear that scum have a RB and we really do not know about a strongman. We are back to setup spec again with that though and that worked out terribly last time around. Again, what is your point with this?

Failsafe.

Rule 1 is count the bodies as town. Don't make sure that you'd lose the game if wrong.

Yeah, unless it is one scum team of 4 players, then town has another day, even if it mislynches today and has the worst night possible.

I Am Innocent · Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:04 pm

Once again I hate phone posting, not sure why that 1st post quoted...

Titus · Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:08 am

Yeah lynch FB, shoot DGB. That's it.

Luna Fox · Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:11 am

In post 2967, I Am Innocent wrote:You are aware that in all 3 of those instances I'm a danger to the scum team (or other scum team in the case of multi ball)

Which is why i said barring cross kills, im working on worst case scenario where both teams shoot town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:15 am

In post 2970, Titus wrote:Yeah lynch FB, shoot DGB. That's it.

Right, get rid of two townies.

I Am Innocent · Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:16 am

But if this were multiball, don't u think scum would shoot me if I was faking a town vig claim?

Would it help if I said I don't want protection tonight, to put it on TheWorst instead?

I'd rather draw a scum NK shot than be mislynched personally.

Luna Fox · Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:19 am

In post 2973, I Am Innocent wrote:But if this were multiball, don't u think scum would shoot me if I was faking a town vig claim?

Why? Wouldn't it be better for scum to let you help them diminish town numbers before shooting you?