Micro 543: Kingmaker - Endgame

Firebringer · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:37 am

In post 399, Vedith wrote:Bow to me, peasants!

But really, trusting me with the lynch?

I gave you a loaded gun, be careful with it bro

Davsto · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:38 am

Dammit, I'm a gibbon >.<

Vedith · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:39 am

Well, FB is conftown then... Scum FB would never give me it.

Davsto · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:41 am

Also he can't be scum if he's kingmaker. That's more conclusive imo.

Vedith · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:43 am

In post 403, Davsto wrote:Also he can't be scum if he's kingmaker. That's more conclusive imo.

That too. XD

lane0168 · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:43 am

But really, what did not claiming kingmaker get us? A random kingmaker lynch. That could have all been avoided with a claim right?

Davsto · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:45 am

Oh shurrup, that lynch was my fault, not the fault of the not-claiming system.

I should've asked for a claim, and I didn't. I'm ashamed to admit part of the reason I didn't is because I wanted that little story to have a surprising twist.

Vedith · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:46 am

In post 405, lane0168 wrote:But really, what did not claiming kingmaker get us? A random kingmaker lynch. That could have all been avoided with a claim right?

I think claiming when focused is the idea, however, if they claim each time, it lets scum know 1 less person who is the town hero.

Davsto · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:48 am

Agreed, the flaw was not in the system but in me being a gibbon.

lane0168 · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:50 am

That's ok. That just forces scum king to pick someone who has a better chance of being town hero. Nothing wrong with that. Scum would be stupid not to kill the kingmaker at night too, which leaves the town hero alive

Lucky2u · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:00 am

Well this was productive. Vedith, Davsto, lane, no comments on the night kill? Which one of you scum is avoiding the subject?

Vedith · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:03 am

What do you want me to comment about it?
I'm not sure why he was killed but I would have suspected him today if he wasn't.

Lucky2u · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:04 am

In post 388, The_Jester wrote:And btw Dav it didn't really look like "spour of the moment" with this story you've prepared. I'd say it was a very scummy move but I may be biased (guess why). I really hope you're town, for the sake of my own sanity.

Davsto you didn't respond to this before night so please do so now. Why was your move not scum?

Lucky2u · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:05 am

In post 411, Vedith wrote:What do you want me to comment about it?
I'm not sure why he was killed but I would have suspected him today if he wasn't.

That begs a follow up question... Why? With distractions like me and Davsto, what caught your attention from him?

Vedith · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:05 am

In post 413, Lucky2u wrote:That begs a follow up question... Why? With distractions like me and Davsto, what caught your attention from him?

The certainty of me being town. I mean, I've been through this but I thought it was buddying.

Vedith · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:06 am

So let me ask you this... What's your view on it?

Davsto · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:06 am

Dongempire is more likely to be a WIFOM kill by scum than a kill from the two people he was thinking were scum.

Scum already had the Kingmaker lynched, so they had a free lynch. Why not make WIFOM whilst doing so?

PEdit; I wrote that story in 5 minutes, jsyk. I'd been hinging on executing you but I wasn't sure, and suddenly my head just went "fuckit, Jester's more likely to be scum".

Lucky2u · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:11 am

Uh... Scum didn't have the kingmaker lynched, you did. Noone was strongly even pushing jester's lynch.

Vedith · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:12 am

So his 2 reads were Lucky and Wanderer...

He did also say to make him, ZZZX or Dav king so that would be a fair point since he would want to kill either of them as the king.

Lucky2u · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:13 am

In post 415, Vedith wrote:So let me ask you this... What's your view on it?

Aggressive players tend to get killed by scum who can't handle them.

Lucky2u · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:14 am

In post 418, Vedith wrote:So his 2 reads were Lucky and Wanderer...

He did also say to make him, ZZZX or Dav king so that would be a fair point since he would want to kill either of them as the king.

His statement to make him zzzx or Dav king is telling that zzzx or Davsto as scum would want to kill him. For obvious reasons.

Davsto · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:15 am

As in, "the Kingmaker had already been lynched luckily for scum so they didn't have to do that".

Vedith · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:16 am

Okay, so given that we have 4 possible good reasons that Dong died.

1 - He was questiong Wanderer (I think she still needs to explain)
2 - He wanted to kill Lucky
3 - ZZZX wanted the kill
4 - Dav wanted the kill (but I doubt this one as much because what town would give Dav another try so quickly?)
Bonus - Could have been random.

Davsto · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:18 am

5 - WIFOM

Firebringer · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:18 am

The best strategy is random, right vedith?