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Vedith · Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:20 am

I really don't understand how Nacho has the same amount of votes as Pist or Cata?
Seriously... I must be missing something for this... Someone give me the run down?

I men, Pist's reason for voting Nacho was 1237 - When countered it's because LC was more of a threat?

UNVOTE: Cata
VOTE: Pist

pistachi0n · Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:41 am

That's just speculation on my part, perhaps it was stupid to say. When I looked through his ISO I mentioned other things that bothered me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:06 pm

In post 1444, massive wrote:I guess what I'm saying is, even if you're playing the game of your life as scum, or are being a great townie, wouldn't you expect everyone in this game to have SOME sort of feeling about your alignment?

I don't mind people nullreading my slot when I haven't had many opportunities to do things: I agree that my posting up to that point was largely null. I also wouldn't have a problem with your push if this was the point you were trying to make, but that didn't seem to be the case then and doesn't seem to be the case now.

In post 1444, massive wrote:but seems less well-formed than his Thor read.

My problem with the pushes are that they both seem horribly underdeveloped.
His cases, in a nutshell, are "Pistach was the LC counterwagon and needs to die" and "Thor started the Pistach counterwagon and thus they are scum together" which read like he's just pulling shit out of his ass and I can't say why anyone seems to be buying into it.

In post 1449, pistachi0n wrote:Maybe you thought LC would be more of a threat.

LC had four solid townreads, two of them because of claim. I was one of those townreads.
Why would he be a threat to me as scum?

In post 1450, Vedith wrote:I really don't understand how Nacho has the same amount of votes as Pist or Cata?
Seriously... I must be missing something for this... Someone give me the run down?

I men, Pist's reason for voting Nacho was 1237 - When countered it's because LC was more of a threat?

UNVOTE: Cata
VOTE: Pist

Why is this worse than what Cataphant is doing?
Cataphant's cases make me want to tear my eyes out; Pistach's are misguided, but at least it seems like a thought process a townie could have as opposed to the "fear tactics and counterwagon garbage Cataphant is spouting.

Vedith · Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:09 pm

In post 1452, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why is this worse than what Cataphant is doing?
Cataphant's cases make me want to tear my eyes out; Pistach's are misguided, but at least it seems like a thought process a townie could have as opposed to the "fear tactics and counterwagon garbage Cataphant is spouting.

You do realise that I think both are scum, right?
I'm not fussed which one we lynch today and which one we lynch tomorrow.
My vote puts Pist on 4 votes instead of 3 people being on 3 votes.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:23 pm

You think both are scum, but I don't.

Antihero · Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:50 pm

Senator Morton: Poor unfortunate girl.
Barbara Morton: She was a tramp.
Senator Morton: She was a human being. Let me remind you that even the most unworthy of us has a right to life and the pursuit of happiness.
Barbara Morton: From what I hear she pursued it in all directions.

Strangers on a Train

Vote Count 2.7

Cataphant - 2 (Thor665, Nachomamma8)
Davsto - 1 (Ankamius)
Nachomamma8 - 3 (pistachi0n, Hecatia Lapislazuli, farside22)
pistachi0n - 4 (Cataphant, EspeciallyTheLies, Davsto, Vedith)

Not Voting: massive

6 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2015-11-04 17:52:11)

Ankamius · Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:13 pm

alright well

Vedith + Hecatia are town. I'm okay with throwing massive into the pile for the moment. I want to throw ETL in there but I don't have enough experience with her to overthrow her reputation that I'm aware of to be comfortable with that.

1-2 minimum scum in Cataphant + Davsto + Thor665

The rest are in who the fuck knows land.

Thor665 · Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:50 am

In post 1456, Ankamius wrote:1-2 minimum scum in Cataphant + Davsto + Thor665

Cataphant has a wagon.
There is at least support for a wagon on me from Cataphant.
No one except you is voting Davsto.
...why aren't you moving your vote?

In post 1450, Vedith wrote:I really don't understand how Nacho has the same amount of votes as Pist or Cata?
Seriously... I must be missing something for this... Someone give me the run down?

I men, Pist's reason for voting Nacho was 1237 - When countered it's because LC was more of a threat?

UNVOTE: Cata
VOTE: Pist

How does Pistach claiming that Nachoscum would want to destroy him make Pistach look scummy as opposed to paranoid town.
Even if you think the comment is stupid - I don't see why scum would be more likely to make it.
Please get back on Cat.

Vedith · Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:52 am

Pist always looked scummy to me though.
It's not more so a stupid comment but trying to dig for justified reasons.

As I said, I don't care which one we lynch today and which one we lynch tomorrow.

Thor665 · Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:34 am

Okay - if you think they're both potential scum I'd like to note something for you.

Cataphant hopped on Pistach.
Pistach started a Nacho counterwagon while a wagon on him and Cata already existed.

If, for some reason, both are scum - Cataphant is the useful scum who shouldn't be bussed.
Vote appropriately.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:16 am

I would like to not give up on this game yall but I'm starting to.

Cataphant · Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:16 am

bullshit on me hopping on pistachio.

I FUCKING CALLED HIM OUT FIRST

Cataphant · Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:16 am

IM NOT ACTUALLY MAD AT ALL BUT CMON THOR YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT

Thor665 · Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:27 am

I was addressing the issue with you as presented through Vedith's concept of the game.
Don't tilt at windmills.

If you want to address the actual reasons I have pressed you then, functionally, you can go and pick up my conversation that you dodged - or you can answer Nacho's thoughts from a few pages back when he pointed out a lot of the same while defending me or you can address how there really isn't a Pistach case, or you can wait around and get lynched. i am fine with any of that.

Thor665 · Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:29 am

And you did hop on Pistach - doing it first just means you hopped first, but in either case it makes the point that if someone thinks you're both scum they should be voting for you over Pistach.

hiplop · Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:41 am

thor wrote:If you think I am in a scummy way then why in the world are you voting for Pistach - I'm the only assured scum in that situation. In fact, if I'm scum it makes Pistach more likely to be town than random.

I was going to bat at Cat's ridiculous attacks a bit, but Nacho is leaping to my defense so handily I don't need to.

you're both scummy as shit. Potentially together. But theres more traction on pistachio. I'll vig you later, thor. I'm not going to get anywhere with you or nacho, honestly. I'm better suited to

@Hecatia/Massive, please vote pistachio. I know you two are town, and you should know the same of me tbh. Trust in me if you can't trust in anyone else. I *believe* you should know you can do that.

Cataphant · Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:42 am

In post 1465, hiplop wrote:
thor wrote:If you think I am in a scummy way then why in the world are you voting for Pistach - I'm the only assured scum in that situation. In fact, if I'm scum it makes Pistach more likely to be town than random.

I was going to bat at Cat's ridiculous attacks a bit, but Nacho is leaping to my defense so handily I don't need to.

you're both scummy as shit. Potentially together. But theres more traction on pistachio. I'll vig you later, thor. I'm not going to get anywhere with you or nacho, honestly. I'm better suited to

@Hecatia/Massive, please vote pistachio. I know you two are town, and you should know the same of me tbh. Trust in me if you can't trust in anyone else. I *believe* you should know you can do that.

also imo hopping implies theres already a wagon? Like metaphor wise hopping would mean you're joining the wagon that's heading on the road. Hard to hop on a wagon that isn't there

Thor665 · Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:44 am

I will agree there is more traction on Pistach - I will also agree that you appear to be, from my perspective, hunting the easy lynch and avoiding your prime scumspect.
I don't get town vibes from you for that choice nor the sideline sniping and dodging towards your prime scumspect.
I don't use that metaphor - but will happily rephrase "hopping" to "voting" if it pleases you - it doesn't affect my point nor stance.

Cataphant · Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:47 am

reason: More traction, I'm more certain on pistachio and you're more useful either way.

good enough? I don't think I'm dodging so much as not seeing it necessary to talk. Nacho/me would just be an uncessary back and forth.

My hope lies in massive/hecatia, who logically should realize i'm town.

farside22 · Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:25 am

I need to work on skimming better or reading when things happen.
I thought pist was calling cata scummy in one of her post and it turns out it was just a review of the player.

That said pist comments really didn't sway me away from scum reading her. I voted Nacho most because he is a scum read. I'm more happy with my pist scum read over nacho.

vote: pistachi0n

Thor665 · Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:00 am

In post 1468, Cataphant wrote:reason: More traction, I'm more certain on pistachio and you're more useful either way.

1. Why are you more certain on Pistach than me - you actually appear to have a case on me even though you refuse to defend or discuss its lack of logic.
2. How am I "more useful" if I'm scum? You're saying I'm a better scum player for town to face than the fearsome Pistach? Or that I'm known for leaving good info to mine after a flip - even though I think my flip has only ever led town to do mislynches in any game I've been scum? You are just saying things that have no logic to them - it is not a good feeling.

In post 1468, Cataphant wrote:I'm dodging so much as not seeing it necessary to talk. Nacho/me would just be an uncessary back and forth.

Yeah, I often refuse to explain my case on my top scumread whom I feel there is no traction on.[/sarcasm]

The Pistach wagon is definitely picking up votes though, you are assuredly right about that.

Hecatia Lapislazuli · Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:01 pm

Seems like notty's not posting either? =/ Guess i'll have to try and do SOMETHING then

~Sakura

Hecatia Lapislazuli · Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:02 pm

Davsto are you up for jailing nacho again? that way i can scan him and as long as you're not lying about your role that should either clear him or condemn him (or get us killed XD)

~Sakura

Hecatia Lapislazuli · Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:14 pm

In post 1466, Cataphant wrote:@Hecatia/Massive, please vote pistachio. I know you two are town, and you should know the same of me tbh. Trust in me if you can't trust in anyone else. I *believe* you should know you can do that.

Ew.

hiplop · Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:30 pm

debhectatia tyhink about it you kow im towna nd m assive is town,.

lkets lucnh fucking pistachio trust ewme and tinka bout titttt!!!