Open 612 - Bad Poets Society - Game Over - Town Win

[Varsoon]

Fuck it.
You guys solve the setup.
Here's what I know we have:
1-Shot Cop (GM, dead)
Doctor (Me)
Serial Killer (Two kills were made)
Scum Roleblocker (I protected GM last night, the protect was blocked because GM is dead--you can only have a Serial Killer in this setup with a scum roleblocker or more T rolls than are allowed given what we have already.)
Innocent Child (FireHermit)

So it is at least
CDMT

Although I am hedging my bets that it is
CCDMTTT

Regardless, I am dead tonight.
There's no use in the other town role claiming because scum has a roleblocker and there are two kills.

[Varsoon]

Oh, we'd have to have CCC for a 1-shot cop and another cop, so my revised guess is
CCCDMT?

Although it could easily be
CDMTTT?

Regardless, there's likely a single other non-exposed town PR and we can say definitively that scum has a roleblocker.

[Varsoon]

Either we've got a full-on cop (whom I suspect I know the identity of) and another role AND scum has a godfather (fucking terrible, ruined game, etc).
Or we've just got another role.

[Varsoon]

Regardless, this means that the mystery town power-role is the sole person who actually knows the whole setup.
If they claim and are not counterclaimed, this makes them confirmed town.
I am also confirmed town.
FireHermit is confirmed town.

This should be easy.

If we have another cop in the setup, that means both our cop and our other role could claim, giving us
4 confirmed town independent of the cop results.

If we can't win with that, you should all hang your heads in shame.

[Ranger]

Checking in.
Not claiming a role.

[Ika Musume]

dont disagree about another pr but disagree on the setup your speccing right now

[Ika Musume]

that being said, the idea thta they left you alive fire is bad all around, its prob cus your not voal and jsut wrong

[Varsoon]

We can either have upwards of five confirmed townies right now, with a minimum of three, or we could have just the one.
Your call.

[Varsoon]

I do not think the utility of keeping our roles hidden will do anything better than having literally confirmed town because of the setup.

[Errantparabola]

ranger, would you mind going over your d1 case on me?

[The Fire Hermit]

Varsoon, I do hope you know that the lack of a counterclaim in an unknown set-up does not confirm you as town.

[The Fire Hermit]

Varsoon is 100% town, I'm afraid, so you are wrong there, but you can be right about the other two. (Honestly, I actually hope you are. It'd make my job much easier.)

Always the same deal when someone makes this claim. Why is he

one-hundred percent

town?

[The Fire Hermit]

I am generally in favor of mass role claiming. It informs town, and the massive amount of pr speculation has always unrooted at least one scum.

I will differ to firebringer on this.

[Varsoon]

You do realize that this is an Open setup with clear-cut rules, right?
Only certain claims can exist.
Fake-claiming is NOT an option, because a mass claim will out the fake-claimer.
I was softing doctor, which is why I believe Ranger thought I was town.
Also, I'm playing pretty straight-faced town here.

Take it or leave it.

[Ika Musume]

well i know your wrong varsoon cus we are the last PR in the setup right now.

i got work but i will come back tonight, feel free to speculate on wha i am

[Varsoon]

We have CMD.
I could be wrong and that kill could be from a vig rather than an SK, which I did not calc for.
So we could have
CMDV???
or
CMDT??? (with one ? not being a T because you can only have serial killer in T or TTT given the other letters we know we have)
to account for me being doctor, GM being one-shot cop, and FireHermit being an innochild.
That only leaves three letters left.

So, again, we're in a situation with anywhere from 3 to 5 confirmed town on a mass claim.
So I'm not wrong.

[Varsoon]

But there has to be a roleblocker, so scum either has T or TTT or town has at least one B.
Ayo.

[Varsoon]

The only issue I could see with a mass-claim is that while we do gain an extra 'confirmed' townie from it and it legitimizes me as confirmed as well,
If scum has a roleblocker, they could claim to be a town roleblocker and maaaybe get away with it,
So we would essentially have to power lynch any B claims that make it to lylo.

[Ika Musume]

your running under the assumption we have no B to begin with

[Ika Musume]

hey varsoon remmeber how you dislike POE, did you knwo what your doing right now is a way of POE?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I sometimes do what Varsoon is doing as scum.

[Ika Musume]

I sometimes do what Varsoon is doing as scum.

dont care be in you fuckign hdyra

[Varsoon]

I don't like PoE in closed setups.
Pay some damn attention.
We have an open setup.
This allows us to actually mass-claim and actually confirm our roles via the setup.
I hate PoE in closed setups because that is not something you can do, and as mods get more and more inventive with roles, claiming/PoE in closed setups becomes increasingly more problematic or town.

[Varsoon]

for town*.

VOTE: Ika
I don't like how resistant you're being here.

[Varsoon]

Even if we have a B, we STILL have either
CMDV
or
CMDT

So, I don't understand what the hell you're on about.