Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

Jeanne11 · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:21 am

@wg That would only be good if I am scum. If you consider the possibility that I am town, his push would seem scum. Unless we lynch townies?

Jeanne11 · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:24 am

Also, in my first game here I was also inexperienced, yet I was scum-read because of it. Why should he be exempt from being scum-read just because he is a newb?

ISO · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:30 am

In post 525, Jeanne11 wrote:@wg That would only be good if I am scum. If you consider the possibility that I am town, his push would seem scum. Unless we lynch townies?

No, the logic isn't if you're town he was rolefishing as there a lot more variables than that.
I see no problem in you both being town to be quite honest.

Jeanne11 · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:31 am

If we're both town, then why isn't he moving his vote?!

ISO · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:31 am

In post 526, Jeanne11 wrote:Also, in my first game here I was also inexperienced, yet I was scum-read because of it. Why should he be exempt from being scum-read just because he is a newb?

He isn't, it however it gives explanations to certain behaviour. I never said he's a newb so let him off, I gave a whole post showing how it makes more sense for him to be town in that area than the rolefishing crumpets. There was a lot more than me "letting him off cause newb".

ISO · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:32 am

As he may think your scum?
Man I'd love to know who's town but then this wouldn't be a game. If you're both town someone's making a mistake, that happens and is a possibility!

ISO · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:33 am

I never trust anything 100% unless there's undeniable proof, we all can make mistakes and it does happen.

Jeanne11 · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:34 am

I am of mindset that there should be no mistakes.

VOTE: LQ

Jeanne11 · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:34 am

You say that and yet your posts say you trust him 100 %

Titus · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:37 am

You are so not getting an invitation to the farm.

Any suspicion of mine is a tunnel in the making. It's a load of crap.

I don't have to suppose Jeanne is town to do that, but you and LQ seem to be on the same path regarding Jeanne. Namely that I cannot know Jeanne is town. I can't know anyone is town for certain but I am relatively confident.

Yet you seem to think Jeanne is town. So why are you objecting? Because I figured something out faster than you? :/

Titus · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:38 am

Why the Klingon vote wgeurts?

Titus · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:41 am

I also want details about how your read on me evolved.

ISO · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:43 am

In post 532, Jeanne11 wrote:I am of mindset that there should be no mistakes.

VOTE: LQ

You are then a fool, people make mistakes and you are a fool to deny it. If we didn't make mistakes this game wouldn't be physically possible.

Also I don't believe 100% LQ is town, stop misrepping me and counter my points. If you can't counter something you may need to consider your view may be "mistaken".

ISO · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:44 am

Like if someone convinces me he's scum I'll think he's scum.
Same for if he acts scummy later.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:47 am

Objectively speaking, when dealing with a player who is known to tunnel (like yourself, titus), any situation where they suspect someone IS identical to the beginning stages of a tunnel, since before you tunnel anyone, you clearly have to be suspicious of them first. It's a pedantic point, but I think it holds.

Also, shut up Titus, my play is immaculate town me, and if it isn't , then I'm either bad scum (which I don't think you think I am), or it should be considered proof of the fact that I'm town (cuz scum me isn't bad, and my town meta is EASY to imitate. Setup spec, theory talk, shit on reads D1 cause it's all BS, and respond to every post directed to me or that mentions me in a way I find worthy of comment).

Bright thing is a good point wgeurts just made. I hadn't checked the player list, so I wasn't aware.

-Cerb

ISO · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:48 am

In post 534, Titus wrote:You are so not getting an invitation to the farm.

Any suspicion of mine is a tunnel in the making. It's a load of crap.

I don't have to suppose Jeanne is town to do that, but you and LQ seem to be on the same path regarding Jeanne. Namely that I cannot know Jeanne is town. I can't know anyone is town for certain but I am relatively confident.

Yet you seem to think Jeanne is town. So why are you objecting? Because I figured something out faster than you? :/

Nah, though in your scum play it does happen and you can't really deny that. It was also a suspicion, the fact I'm considering you to be town already shows that I'm considering I may be mistaken. If you weren't tunneling and you're town we then both disagree, one of us is then mistaken and I can live with that (though I'd like to solve it). Also this is exactly the discrediting I was speaking about, show me how I'm wrong instead of just saying it.
Also, jeanne is one of those leaning towards scum.

ISO · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:49 am

In post 535, Titus wrote:Why the Klingon vote wgeurts?

Will explain later

ISO · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:50 am

In post 536, Titus wrote:I also want details about how your read on me evolved.

Have you read my posts at all?
You started of looking similar to a game you were scum in, but your play diverted from that and this thing with you and jeanne indicates to me there is more than what meets the eye.

Titus · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:52 am

You don't get to tell me to shut up. Anyone can tunnel, not just me. The point is though not all my suspicions are tunnels and LQ's comment there is shit.

You could just be lurking scum. Lurking town. Bad town or bad scum. I don't know which.

Give me some solid scumreads with reasoning or be happy in my scum/to be sorted pile. Until I see town Cerb, I will not be happy.

~Titus

Titus · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:53 am

In post 542, wgeurts wrote:
In post 536, Titus wrote:I also want details about how your read on me evolved.

Have you read my posts at all?
You started of looking similar to a game you were scum in, but your play diverted from that and this thing with you and jeanne indicates to me there is more than what meets the eye.

And you never considered me "rescuing" a buddy by posting gibberish wilfully?

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:55 am

In post 543, Titus wrote:You don't get to tell me to shut up. Anyone can tunnel, not just me. The point is though not all my suspicions are tunnels and LQ's comment there is shit.

You could just be lurking scum. Lurking town. Bad town or bad scum. I don't know which.

Give me some solid scumreads with reasoning or be happy in my scum/to be sorted pile. Until I see town Cerb, I will not be happy.

~Titus

Titus....you know I don't figure the game out D1, because of lack of content and lack of facts to use to figure the game out. It's unreasonable for you to expect that from me here, when I have NEVER done so in the past.

-Cerb

Titus · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:57 am

In post 545, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 543, Titus wrote:You don't get to tell me to shut up. Anyone can tunnel, not just me. The point is though not all my suspicions are tunnels and LQ's comment there is shit.

You could just be lurking scum. Lurking town. Bad town or bad scum. I don't know which.

Give me some solid scumreads with reasoning or be happy in my scum/to be sorted pile. Until I see town Cerb, I will not be happy.

~Titus

Titus....you know I don't figure the game out D1, because of lack of content and lack of facts to use to figure the game out. It's unreasonable for you to expect that from me here, when I have NEVER done so in the past.

-Cerb

I do expect you to scumhunt. Solve the entire game? No.

ISO · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:57 am

In post 544, Titus wrote:
In post 542, wgeurts wrote:
In post 536, Titus wrote:I also want details about how your read on me evolved.

Have you read my posts at all?
You started of looking similar to a game you were scum in, but your play diverted from that and this thing with you and jeanne indicates to me there is more than what meets the eye.

And you never considered me "rescuing" a buddy by posting gibberish wilfully?

Yes I have, I even have notes on it:

Things I jotted down in my catchup wrote:-If Titus is scum jeanne is likely a partner 74 could be seen as distancing for instance. Keep an eye on this and await flips.
-Suspicion at those that join LQ's wagon opportunistically though is good.
-What changed from finding Jeanne's buddy slimy to town?
-What happens on page 8 is really beyond me. What's up with the fruit and interaction with Jeanne

Titus · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:01 am

So you think I am scum at point A. You think Jeanne is scum at point A. We start secretly liking each other fypov, and you reach the conclusion I am town.... Gap in logic.

Jeanne11 · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:01 am

@Titus Us farmers have decided that summer is best time to scumhunt.