Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

[Jeanne11]

So......what do the farmers say?

You reap what you sow. You pushed the plan too fast and we reaped no harvest. Simple as that.

I find myself agreeing with Reasonably Rational simply because if you wanted to discover scum through a potential quick hammer the votes would have to have been closer that someone would have wanted to make the risk to kill a townie. That would mean one of them would have to sacrifice themselves for the team. Therefore, since it was still so open and opinions were really divided at the point of the lock. It makes me wonder what was supposed to happen. I understood what was supposed to happen but I do not think that did happen here. It was too early, the plan jumped the gun.

If LQ is town, I'd disagree.

Jeanne's response told volumes. I set her against LQ for a reason. Jeanne is all buddy buddy with me, but freaks out when I pair her against LQ and starts blathering about the intent in the thread. She's all, trust no one. Yet she explicitly trusts me. (Starting with 400, there's a clear pattern of buddying me).

The plan was triggered early because Jeanne triggered it early, despite having clear instructions that Elbrin or I would trigger. She made no reference to being unavailable on Monday. She didn't communicate effectively with Suzune regarding the early trigger.

She also used a rot13 code earlier which can be cracked. The gibberish had to cover that. If you used a code, a legend is absolutely required.

It gave me doubts.

See that post? She started doubting me first.

[Suzune]

Jeanne, Shiro is not in this game. So past issues are past. We are looking at this time and this game alone. How precisely did Titus betray you? Excuse me a tad, but I may overstep my bounds, who cares what Titus thinks of you. Play the game. When you started rage posting you made yourself look scummy that is my opinion.

A level head is the key to understanding. I did not treat you as a fool, however, I thought the plan was inopportune and not well executed.

[Jeanne11]

Look at the post above.

[Jeanne11]

I even told her at the end of last game I will not trust anybody and she still insists that I should trust her or else she'll scumread me. I think she's taking advantage of my naivety again to play me like a fiddle.

[Titus]

I even told her at the end of last game I will not trust anybody and she still insists that I should trust her or else she'll scumread me. I think she's taking advantage of my naivety again to play me like a fiddle.

Show where I said that. That's just wrong.

[Jeanne11]

Sorry but when someone is town and says they don't want the person with the role to claim and they don't want to know who has the role, they can't possibly be fishing for someone's role.

What do I think about the Jeanne thing? I think she appears scummy in several posts, but I also think it seems super convenient that she and you started having a back and forth show right when I was pressuring you and you decided to stop responding to my pressure. I will have to re-evaluate later tonight as I'm out of time now.

Love,
Drixx

Not discussing that past game with you but yes you did want a claim.

Nah, look at the reaction from Jeanne when she was paired with LQ.
Look at her

trust no one post. That's what snapped me

. Her excessive buddying pinged me back after 400.

That post, relevant bit is bolded. You're probably going to deny it though.

[Blackest Magick]

so why the hell did only 3 people vote titus?

basically led us to believe she force ended the day without giving us preparation time, ie probably no lynch

what exactly is/was your ability

[Titus]

@Jeanne, Misreps are obvious.

@BM, Because I am obvtown.

Why did you believe that I was ending the day without ability to lynch? That's a stretch.

As I said, Messenger + Can cause 24 hour period where votes must be pmmed to the mod.

The anonymous/end the day/anti-town was all faked to try and get scum to anonymously vote town.

[LicketyQuickety]

OK, so there's like a ton of content in this game since I was last here.

I'll try and get caught up.

P.S. How the hell do you play 17 games at a time Fire? I'm having a tone of trouble with like 5 right now.

[Jeanne11]

Look, you didn't even give a proper reply to that last one. You just said something that sounds similar to the last game, where you were scum.

[Jeanne11]

Titus: I have proven myself as escort. Who cares if I am actually consort, I have proven myself as an escort, so just trust me, dammit!

Titus2: Jeanne11 hates me so I must be town.

[Jeanne11]

Above was said by Titus in the last game we played together. She was scum then? *bangs head against the wall*

[Titus]

I am pretty sure you're melodramatically paraphrasing there Jeanne.

@Suzune - Jeanne LQ Wgeurts BM (scum in there?).

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm sorry Titus, but your case against me is beyond stawmany.

[Titus]

Tell me who is scum. Are you caught up?

[Jeanne11]

No, I am not. The 2nd line was said by you during the court in that game, and the 1st is your overall tune during that game.

[Jeanne11]

Well, answer me this: is there any way I can convince you I am town or will you stick to your belief that I am scum no matter what in this game as well?

[Suzune]

I am inclined to think that LQ is still scum, BM has way too few posts to make a read, now...

Wgeurts is an interesting question. Clearly they are very focused on you. Everything you do is being studied. I think even if they are town that single mindedness is not actually very useful to the town and actually comes off as anti-town because it is not really a tunnel, but just a fixation.

Jeanne, I think could use another push. Last time their panic was ugly and anti-town. I would bite that, just to see if maybe her buddies calmed her down a tad.

[LicketyQuickety]

Tell me who is scum. Are you caught up?

I'm semi caught up so far.

[Jeanne11]

Last time Titus was scum. Why are you not addressing that too?!

[Titus]

Tell me who is scum. Are you caught up?

I'm semi caught up so far.

Where are you? Who are you scumreading?

[Suzune]

Last time Titus was scum. Why are you not addressing that too?!

What do you mean last time Titus was scum. Yes the last game I played with and Titus was scum, he asked me a whole bunch of questions too so I am being wary.

[Jeanne11]

So then why are you favoring her being town over me being town? Is it favoritism or something?

[Ranger]

pistachi seems scummy to me.

I got the opposite impression: pistachi0n seems to be the only town player on your wagon.

Between that (LQ), and the Titus wagon, we probably have the entire scumteam.

{FireKari, Elbirn, Jeanne, Titus, Suzune} are

very

strongly town.
{Klingoncelt, pistachi0n} are weaker town.
BRantz stands at null.
{LicketyQuickety, Blackest Magic, wgeurts, Reasonably Rational} are all scumreads.

[Suzune]

So then why are you favoring her being town over me being town? Is it favoritism or something?

Friends close, enemies closer. I do not want to be manipulated again, so I have to wait and judge. But he seems kind of townie to me. Your reaction was the huge tip of for me. You stopped thinking, and stopped helping down and went straight for insults. I don't want to come off as coaching here, so this is just what I think.