Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

Titus · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:00 pm

Forgot Wgeurts.

How many lean towns do you have?

Titus · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:01 pm

^^^ was at Klingon

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:17 pm

We're a hydra who uses reasoning and probability to solve the game. We've told you several times that wguerts is town. We clearly would only say that if we had some reason to believe that. Further pushing against Wguerts will be viewed as fishing and the people doing the pushing will be assumed scum. Simple as that.

~Drixx

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:19 pm

In post 1247, Titus wrote:@Klingon, yup. Suzune Elbrin and Jeanne aren't conf anything solely because we had a communication method. They're town due to actions.

So LQ BM RR or Brantz, name your scumreads please.

I've already answered this. The fact that you don't agree with me doesn't change the reads.

In post 1248, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1247, Titus wrote:@Klingon, yup. Suzune Elbrin and Jeanne aren't conf anything solely because we had a communication method. They're town due to actions.

So LQ BM RR or Brantz, name your scumreads please.

What about Wgeurts? Did I miss something? I have him at lean Scum vs Ranger at lean Scum.

LQ, lean Scum, the others lean Town.

If we lynch LQ and he flips Scum that's great, but I'd like a lynch that gives us information. Although lynching LQ regardless of flip should quiet Jeanne down... that would be a plus.

Screw that. I'd rather lynch Jeanne and shut her up that way. I don't actually see anything that's alignment indicative coming out of LQ at all. Seriously, where do you all get the idea that he's scum from?

In post 1249, Suzune wrote:
In post 1248, Klingoncelt wrote:If we lynch LQ and he flips Scum that's great, but I'd like a lynch that gives us information.
This is a fair point because many people seem to be leaning against LQ, that limits the amount of information that is obtained from the flip.

Information is always gained, what's important is getting people on record before the flip about *why* they're leaning against him.

-Cerb

Suzune · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:20 pm

In post 1253, Reasonably Rational wrote:Information is always gained, what's important is getting people on record before the flip about *why* they're leaning against him.

I will give this to you. However, when a lot of people believe on thing, it gets hard to tell who is having original ideas and who is copying. However, your point is fair.

Titus · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:31 pm

1253 was a communication error. I was intending to ask Klingon her reads in that pool.

ISO · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:59 pm

In post 1238, BRantz wrote:Okay... I am literally done trying now. I will not interact with you for at minimum at least the rest of the day.

Woo, someone joined me! Maybe if enough people do this she will be forced to notice even town dislike her logic. Anyway it was a reaction test in a fitting location and sadly it yielded nothing, I was trying to get something from Ranger.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:01 pm

In post 1250, Titus wrote:Forgot Wgeurts.

How many lean towns do you have?

Not a lot.

I have some either/or:

If Wgeurtz is Scum, Ranger is Town,
if LQ is Scum, Jeanne is Town

ISO · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:04 pm

Also Jean me you up for a little bet?
I'll vote LQ and if he flips town you have to sheep me with your vote all of tommorow, failing to do so would either show you're likely scum or you lack honour/honesty.
Let's put your certainty to the test. Also, do you have some ability which has lead to a scum result on LQ or something?

ISO · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:06 pm

And if I'm town?
There's a lot of people parking me in their scum reads but not going for me as other's aren't. I'd predict a quick wagon on me if someone started one. I'm almost like a plan B.

Titus · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:08 pm

In post 1258, wgeurts wrote:Also Jean me you up for a little bet?
I'll vote LQ and if he flips town you have to sheep me with your vote all of tommorow, failing to do so would either show you're likely scum or you lack honour/honesty.
Let's put your certainty to the test. Also, do you have some ability which has lead to a scum result on LQ or something?

Ewwww that part at the end makes this post terrible.

If LQ is town, I'll want wgeurts's head.

Titus · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:08 pm

In post 1257, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1250, Titus wrote:Forgot Wgeurts.

How many lean towns do you have?

Not a lot.

I have some either/or:

If Wgeurtz is Scum, Ranger is Town,
if LQ is Scum, Jeanne is Town

The shy is black at night.

ISO · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:16 pm

Well if there's a cop guilty it's best to out it right?
Or am I missing some change in site meta?
Don't tell me what got him caught but if he's undeniably scum and I'm mistaken I'd like to know that.

pistachi0n · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:16 pm

In post 1218, Elbirn wrote:Jeanne nothing you are saying is grounded in reality. Please chill.

This is scummy, you're dismissing an argument without explaining why.

wgeurts, the fake kill was really bad.

ISO · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:30 pm

It was a reaction yest? How was it bad?
Depending on how he reacted he could of let slip his alignment.

ISO · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:30 pm

Test*

Elbirn · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:42 pm

In post 1263, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 1218, Elbirn wrote:Jeanne nothing you are saying is grounded in reality. Please chill.

This is scummy, you're dismissing an argument without explaining why.

There is no argument, Jeanne has just been babbling incoherent nothingness. I don't understand her anger that no one is listening to her when it's literally one person townreading lq and the rest of the town against lq. He's the majority fucking wagon and she's bitching like we're all too dumb to see that he's scum like holy shit I'm sorry we haven't put him in the ground fast enough for you your highness Jesus tittyfucking christ

Anyway your post here was bad, anything relevant to say?

Elbirn · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:43 pm

In post 1257, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1250, Titus wrote:Forgot Wgeurts.

How many lean towns do you have?

Not a lot.

I have some either/or:

If Wgeurtz is Scum, Ranger is Town,
if LQ is Scum, Jeanne is Town

On the one hand, dichotomies are gross and scummy.
On the other hand I'm happy klingon is saying things.

Elbirn · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:45 pm

Lq/blackmajick/pistachio

If only the game were actually that easy to solve. *sighs*

Titus · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:46 pm

In post 1264, wgeurts wrote:It was a reaction yest? How was it bad?
Depending on how he reacted he could of let slip his alignment.

Since the test is over, how so

Titus · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:47 pm

In post 1268, Elbirn wrote:Lq/blackmajick/pistachio

If only the game were actually that easy to solve. *sighs*

Forgot Pist was here...

Klingon's probably scum.

Ranger · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:32 pm

Reasonably Rational wrote:I'm going to assume you're used to playing with idiots who create clear associatives and intent during what is, essentially, the least meaningful part of the game.

You would be very wrong, then.

It's not easy to vomit out a reads list that is consistent with prior play and which accounts for changes in your opinion which may have occurred.

Yeah, which is why I don't bother most of the time. My reads have been changing in a very, very easy to track manner. My thoughts have been transparent. I might not always share the thoughts (me not saying who my scumreads were that I didn't want to push early-on, me not wanting to say what marking does), but what thoughts I

do

share could not be more clear.

Ranger · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:38 pm

wgeurts wrote:Maybe if enough people do this she will be forced to notice even town dislike her logic.

I'll be honest that I'm not really reading much of Jeanne's posting, but that's mostly because I've concluded already that her read no matter how annoying you may think she is happens to be correct, and the way she is pushing is something I cannot fathom a scum player doing. It has town written all over it.

Jeanne11 · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:18 pm

If you're all scumreading him, then vote him. You're pretty much stalling here and cross-accusing one another. There are 6 days till deadline. If this continues, we'll end up with no lynch, something that's bad for town.

Jeanne11 · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:22 pm

In post 1258, wgeurts wrote:Also Jean me you up for a little bet?
I'll vote LQ and if he flips town you have to sheep me with your vote all of tommorow, failing to do so would either show you're likely scum or you lack honour/honesty.
Let's put your certainty to the test. Also, do you have some ability which has lead to a scum result on LQ or something?

This. Why are you saying this? Is this someone speaking who knows LQ is his scumbuddy and thus won't lose his bet either way?