Mini 1737: Bringer Mafia [Mafia Win]


User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:59 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 30, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 25, Fraggernaut wrote:Keyser will spend most of day one & two tunneling the shit out of me & being
completely wrong on my alignment
.

After analysing Fraggernaut's ISO I conclude that he is town-aligned...

[FYI: I would have preferred a
''hello Keyser, great to see you again."
.


In post 8, RadiantCowbells wrote:I was disappointed by the lack of fudge brownies.

Scum-slip!
All townies recieved fudge brownies!

VOTE: RadiantCowbells


Hello Keyser, great to see you again. Even though you didn't play in the game I modded :(
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:59 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 29, Accountant wrote:Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and want to meta-deflect in advance?


Why would I care if he's a good scum hunter or not since I'm town?
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:05 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

Also RVS is meh to me. I don't really get too much info off of RVS; But that's just me.

I voted for Keyser cause it's kind of a tradition now in games we play together.
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:06 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 41, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 29, Accountant wrote:Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and
want to meta-deflect in advance
?

That's quite an accusation (#1).

In post 34, Accountant wrote:VOTE: TheFuzzylogic99
Serious vote; no RVS vote looks to me like a scum
trying to avoid associations by not voting
.

That's quite an accusation (#2).


Keyser what do you make of these accusations?

Also to direct a question you've asked me one game. Why didn't you put a RVS vote on me? I'm slightly offended good sir
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:21 am

Post by Accountant »

In post 51, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 29, Accountant wrote:Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and want to meta-deflect in advance?


Why would I care if he's a good scum hunter or not since I'm town?

Fragger, if you invoke meta on someone, I would like to see some source.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
Keyser Söze
Keyser Söze
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Keyser Söze
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6064
Joined: May 11, 2015

Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:30 am

Post by Keyser Söze »

@Fraggernaut.

RE: reachy accusations: I'm siding with townie 'throwing early shit around'. Not 'I hope something sticks' scum.
User avatar
BNL
BNL
Micro Madness
User avatar
User avatar
BNL
Micro Madness
Micro Madness
Posts: 3338
Joined: September 15, 2015
Location: EDT+12

Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:39 am

Post by BNL »

VOTE: Vedith

Hasn't done much scumhunting so far; been IIOAing, answering rhetorical questions, commenting on posts rather than actually contributing.
GTKAS - BNL

Busy, on indefinite V/LA. May return April 2020
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:42 am

Post by Accountant »

Both scum and town have incentive to throw shit around. Town because it moves the game out of RVS and can force the quiet players out of their shell, scum because they want to setup grounds for a mislynch later or control the momentum of the game.

PEdit: BulletNLynchproof's post gave me an immediate reaction of "this post is town".
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
BNL
BNL
Micro Madness
User avatar
User avatar
BNL
Micro Madness
Micro Madness
Posts: 3338
Joined: September 15, 2015
Location: EDT+12

Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:44 am

Post by BNL »

In post 49, Accountant wrote:I can't think of a good reason for a townie not to RVS but I can think of a good reason for scum to do so.


What's the good reason for scum to not RVS?
GTKAS - BNL

Busy, on indefinite V/LA. May return April 2020
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:52 am

Post by Accountant »

A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
Vedith
Vedith
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Vedith
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21212
Joined: June 18, 2015
Location: Surrey

Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:52 am

Post by Vedith »

In post 56, BNL wrote:VOTE: Vedith

Hasn't done much scumhunting so far; been IIOAing, answering rhetorical questions, commenting on posts rather than actually contributing.


I'm not scum hunting in the first 2 pages of the game :giggle:
Get out of here! XD
I claim scum \o/
User avatar
Vedith
Vedith
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Vedith
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21212
Joined: June 18, 2015
Location: Surrey

Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:54 am

Post by Vedith »

In post 59, Accountant wrote:A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.


That's not true...
Scum want to look town and fit in. What do town do day 1? They normally make shit wagons and lynch a townie.
They can also make a new vote on someone, and as it's RVS, it means fuck all.
I claim scum \o/
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:54 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 54, Accountant wrote:
In post 51, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 29, Accountant wrote:Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and want to meta-deflect in advance?


Why would I care if he's a good scum hunter or not since I'm town?

Fragger, if you invoke meta on someone, I would like to see some source.


What sources? Not understanding what you're trying to make a reach at here Accountant.
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:56 am

Post by Accountant »

In post 60, Vedith wrote:
In post 56, BNL wrote:VOTE: Vedith

Hasn't done much scumhunting so far; been IIOAing, answering rhetorical questions, commenting on posts rather than actually contributing.


I'm not scum hunting in the first 2 pages of the game :giggle:
Get out of here! XD

We have already moved mostly out of the RVS stage. What do you think about:

- My accusations?
- Fraggernaut's refusal to give sources for his meta claim about Keyser?
- Fuzzylogic's reluctancy to RVS?
- Keyser Soze's analysis of my posts?
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:56 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 59, Accountant wrote:A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.


So who do you think is "Associated" so far from RVS?
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:57 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 63, Accountant wrote:
In post 60, Vedith wrote:
In post 56, BNL wrote:VOTE: Vedith

Hasn't done much scumhunting so far; been IIOAing, answering rhetorical questions, commenting on posts rather than actually contributing.


I'm not scum hunting in the first 2 pages of the game :giggle:
Get out of here! XD

We have already moved mostly out of the RVS stage. What do you think about:

- My accusations?
- Fraggernaut's refusal to give sources for his meta claim about Keyser?
- Fuzzylogic's reluctancy to RVS?
- Keyser Soze's analysis of my posts?


Accountant your claims are far reaches. If you really wanted to dive into meta, you could read my past games.
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:57 am

Post by Accountant »

In post 62, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 54, Accountant wrote:
In post 51, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 29, Accountant wrote:Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and want to meta-deflect in advance?


Why would I care if he's a good scum hunter or not since I'm town?

Fragger, if you invoke meta on someone, I would like to see some source.


What sources? Not understanding what you're trying to make a reach at here Accountant.

You said Keyser would tunnel you early D1 and probably be wrong about your alignment. Why do you think he will tunnel you? If it was due to his behavior in previous games, can you link those games?
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:59 am

Post by Accountant »

In post 61, Vedith wrote:
In post 59, Accountant wrote:A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.


That's not true...
Scum want to look town and fit in. What do town do day 1? They normally make shit wagons and lynch a townie.
They can also make a new vote on someone, and as it's RVS, it means fuck all.

If we allow the anti town behavior of not participating in RVS to pass by as null, then plenty of scum can refuse to vote and not get suspected. Furthermore, the shit wagons d1 give us a lot of information, so it is not completely pointless.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:00 am

Post by Accountant »

In post 64, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 59, Accountant wrote:A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.


So who do you think is "Associated" so far from RVS?

Keyser Soze and Fraggernaut
Vedith and BulletNLynchproof
Keyser Soze with myself
Fuzzylogic with myself

All of these people have had meaningful interactions that provides information for town.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
Vedith
Vedith
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Vedith
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21212
Joined: June 18, 2015
Location: Surrey

Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:01 am

Post by Vedith »

In post 63, Accountant wrote:We have already moved mostly out of the RVS stage. What do you think about:

- My accusations?
- Fraggernaut's refusal to give sources for his meta claim about Keyser?
- Fuzzylogic's reluctancy to RVS?
- Keyser Soze's analysis of my posts?


-I don't agree with them
-I don't think you understand the word 'refusal'
-I think you are scratching the walls
-Keyser has sense, but that doesn't indicate his align.

With the petty concerns you have here though, I'm thinking town, as your concerns in our last game were just as petty (or incorrect).
I claim scum \o/
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:02 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 67, Accountant wrote:
In post 61, Vedith wrote:
In post 59, Accountant wrote:A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.


That's not true...
Scum want to look town and fit in. What do town do day 1? They normally make shit wagons and lynch a townie.
They can also make a new vote on someone, and as it's RVS, it means fuck all.

If we allow the anti town behavior of not participating in RVS to pass by as null, then plenty of scum can refuse to vote and not get suspected. Furthermore, the shit wagons d1 give us a lot of information, so it is not completely pointless.


So accountant do you find inattentiveness to the game scum aligned?

Pedit: So you think I would RVS a scum buddy early game? Or do you think Keyser & myself are town? Or is it one & one?
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None
User avatar
Vedith
Vedith
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Vedith
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21212
Joined: June 18, 2015
Location: Surrey

Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:04 am

Post by Vedith »

In post 67, Accountant wrote:If we allow the anti town behavior of not participating in RVS to pass by as null, then plenty of scum can refuse to vote and not get suspected. Furthermore, the shit wagons d1 give us a lot of information, so it is not completely pointless.


A good scum will blend in with looking bad town, that's all I'm saying.
I see what you are trying to get at. But honestly for me, I'm neither for or against RVS.
RVS is purely there to get the game rolling in my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. If people participate without a vote, then I don't care if they join RVS.
I claim scum \o/
User avatar
Vedith
Vedith
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Vedith
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 21212
Joined: June 18, 2015
Location: Surrey

Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:08 am

Post by Vedith »

In post 68, Accountant wrote:Keyser Soze and Fraggernaut
Vedith and BulletNLynchproof
Keyser Soze with myself
Fuzzylogic with myself

All of these people have had meaningful interactions that provides information for town.


No.
I claim scum \o/
User avatar
Accountant
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Accountant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6419
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Wonderland

Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:10 am

Post by Accountant »

Fragger: I think inattentiveness to the game needs to be punished so that scum do not use it as a way to bog down games.

Also, where is the links I asked for? If you don't want to give them, what is your reason?

Finally, I think there is a connection between you and Keyser. Whether Town and Town or scum pre-emptively discrediting a town member or something else remains to be seen. But now we know to watch out for further interactions between the two of you.

Vedith: I agree a good scum will do that. There is no guarunted that fuzzylogic is a good scum.

If Fraggernaut did not refuse to give sources for his claim about Keyser, then what is he doing? I've asked twice and he has not given them, that counts as refusing in my book.

PEdit: Vedith, explain your reasoning for "No."
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Fraggernaut
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1491
Joined: May 13, 2015
Location: Florida

Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:13 am

Post by Fraggernaut »

In post 73, Accountant wrote:Fragger: I think inattentiveness to the game needs to be punished so that scum do not use it as a way to bog down games.

Also, where is the links I asked for? If you don't want to give them, what is your reason?

Finally, I think there is a connection between you and Keyser. Whether Town and Town or scum pre-emptively discrediting a town member or something else remains to be seen. But now we know to watch out for further interactions between the two of you.

Vedith: I agree a good scum will do that. There is no guarunted that fuzzylogic is a good scum.

If Fraggernaut did not refuse to give sources for his claim about Keyser, then what is he doing? I've asked twice and he has not given them, that counts as refusing in my book.

PEdit: Vedith, explain your reasoning for "No."


I already told you. If you're so interested in meta, go look at my past games. Simple as that.

I don't feel inclined to post links to past games for someone else's attempt to meta bury someone.
GP:6 Town W/L (2-4) Mafia W/L (0-0)

Currently Playing: NY 194: GnR Mafia
Currently Modding: None

Return to “Completed Mini Normal Games”