Micro 542: Five Nights at Freddy's Good End.

[GuiltyLion]

You're introducing all sorts of weird speculation specifically to cast doubt on my claim. Why would there be a roleblocker just because there is a cop? Anyone who claims "Doc" in LYLO is not conftown, because they could just make it up on the spot. It's a closed setup.

[Davsto]

I'm saying that if there's a Doc, then ZZZX probably won't die tonight if we lynch you.

[Davsto]

Talk about projection.

[GuiltyLion]

And if there isn't a doc, then ZZZX dies and you're in LyLo with Marge and Lane. I have no idea why that's preferable to picking between Marge and Lane today.

[lane0168]

BOOYA! Good work davsto.

I'll believe the cop claim, because of flows power of blocking powers. And I'm assuming if guilty has more than 1 vote he couldn't cop. So that's another way to either not be able to use it or have to claim

Also, I'm lost. I read the flip like 10 times getting pumped to speed lynch shiro for the win lol.

Guilty, what happened if you had more than 1 vote? You just couldn't use your power?

Pedit, I'm not reading all those before I post this lol

[Davsto]

And with me putting doubt into their head like this, are they really going to try and kill ZZZX?

You're coming up with all sorts of panicky reasons not to be lynched today.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

[Davsto]

(Also no I'm not crumbing Doc so if there is one please please please don't attempt to counterclaim

thanks)

[GuiltyLion]

Davsto, the way you are approaching this is even more dense than what Marge was doing, and makes me inclined to believe that you are scum.

VOTE: Davsto

Lane - you are exactly right. I will full claim - I am

The Puppet

. I can investigate someone each night, as long as my 'music box' is not wound up. My music box is wound up if the night ends with more than 1 vote on me.

I crumbed this in my second post:

I don't disbelieve Flow Alpha's claim but he needs to explain the mixup and why exactly he thought it was a good idea to claim, because I see nothing there that we needed to know right now.

I think we should lynch GuiltyLion. Thoughts?

Let's not.

Though I appreciate your effort to wind me up

. What do you think of Flow's claim?

[GuiltyLion]

Like Davsto your reasoning is ATROCIOUS. I promise you you will lynch me, I will flip town cop, ZZZX will die, and then you will have to choose between Marge and Lane. Whereas instead if you believe my claim, the choice for you right now would be between Marge and Lane. Congrats, you've completely wasted D3 and ruined town's chances of victory.

[GuiltyLion]

There's just no way Dav's mindset comes from town.

[lane0168]

I don't see a point in lynching a claimed cop. I understood davsto not believing the beloved princess. But this seems plenty plausible to me

[Davsto]

Do you want me to claim? I can't prove it anymore thanks to Guilty's panicked, premature claim, but I can tell you anyway.

[GuiltyLion]

If you want to lynch me, then you should lynch me in LYLO, because there will be a conftown that I will refuse to lynch. Lynching me today is unarguably a terrible play and I'm blown away that town!Davsto wouldn't see that. Note that Marge was immediately receptive to the point I made.

My claim was not premature. It's the correct play to guarantee that there is conftown in LyLo. I could have played the subtle game and crumbed all day that ZZZX was town, but I was kinda sick of doing that yesterday and I figured if I got in risk of being lynched I'd just have to claim regardless, at which point there'd be more skepticism because I didn't claim immediately.

[GuiltyLion]

like there was no way Marge was gonna let me go with a ZZZX townread unexplained, so I just cut that discussion short.

[Davsto]

*sigh*

I'm Phone Guy. Each Day I can inspect one person and I get their flavour name. Last I inspected Guilty and thus I can support that The Puppet is his actual role name. Sadly, due to him deciding to claim early, I can no longer prove it.

(I inspected Shiro first, by the way.)

Reason I doubt Guilty:

Whilst not impossible, Watcher+Cop+Flavour Name Cop seems an odd combination. Admittedly, Flavour Name Cop has little to no power so it's not like it's ridiculous, but it's still slightly odd in my eyes.
Secondly, The Puppet+Balloon Boy makes a surprising amount of sense as a scumteam, considering they were both introduced in FNaF2. I have been aware of this from daystart hence my push.
Thirdly, his attitude to Flow yesterday was largely to focus on other things and try to take attention away from the push ("X what are your reads outside of Flow", his hard Marge push, etc) which I find meh.

[Lucky2u]

Vote Count 3.1

lane0168 (L-3)-
Davsto (L-2)- GuiltyLion

GuiltyLion (L-1)- Marge, Davsto

ZZZX (L-3)-
Marge (L-3)-

Not Voting: lane0168, ZZZX

With

5

alive, it takes

3

to lynch!

Night 3 ends in: (expired on 2015-11-19 12:00:00)

[GuiltyLion]

^Shiro is definitely town

also happy birthday Lane!

^ me crumbing my N1 result

^Shiro is definitely town

also happy birthday Lane!

How is that town?

^ I ignore this question as long as possible because it's anti-town for me to out myself at this point.

Don't like the push on Shiro. Post didn't look fake to me at all.

^ Me again crumbing a Shiro innocent result

I still think literally nothing in 185 is alignment indicative, but whatever agree to disagree.

^ Me again saying 185 didn't come from scum. At this point, I figured it would be obvious if I died that I had an innocent result on Shiro.

I don't feel the need to explain my townread on Shiro to you Marge.

Explaining townreads is a waste of time, I've found. Explaining scumreads is what's useful because that might actually get scum lynched.

What's important is that everyone knows my view on Shiro.

You've called Shiro a liar and said my defense of Shiro is scummy but refused to give an actual read on Shiro.

^ More town!Shiro crumbs for my flip

1) I think your town read on shiro is fake, which I said. You can tell me you can't explain it, I say it doesn't exsist.
2) if your claim is true what did you day 1

1. It's not fake. I just don't feel like taking the time to convince you of my read, especially since I suspect you'll just spin it into me being scummy somehow.
2) Don't worry, it'll all make sense after my flip And the way you are playing is making it very likely that you'll be lynched when I do. So regardless of your alignment, this line of questioning is terrible for you.

^ Read this and tell me that it doesn't come from a cop with a clear on Shiro.

Davsto - what do you have against scum!Marge? Because if you're town then to me it's pretty obviously Marge.

[Davsto]

Explain how?

[Davsto]

^ in regards to

Davsto - what do you have against scum!Marge? Because if you're town then to me it's pretty obviously Marge.

[Davsto]

I mean I've already said I'm basically null on Marge and am too ill (horribly horrible sore throat where I literally cringe in pain whenever I swallow) to bother ISOing and rereading her. I'm not against the idea of scum!Marge, I just have no particular inclination of there being a scum!Marge.

[Davsto]

UNVOTE:

Because I'd like to have some consideration of Marge before the day gets ended.

[GuiltyLion]

Explain how?

It's mainly my townread on Lane combined with everything I had against Marge on D2. Her pushes have been on Shiro/ZZZX/me, all of whom are town FMPOV, and then the way she treated the Flow wagon looks much more like a bus than you or Lane. If you or Lane bussed then it was a very decisive hardbus from the getgo, and I gave plenty of wiggle room for either of you to back out of that if you wanted to.

[GuiltyLion]

Also, this kind of reasoning and evidence is exactly why I spent D2 poking around at different people instead of just speedvoting the obvious lynch.

[Davsto]

Hmm, maybe. I'll look at it tomorrow when I can function to a higher standard.

PEdit see, I'd argue against that. IMO, the less you focus on other people, the more they think they can get away with. If you focus on the main lynch and then come back to people's behaviour afterwards, you're more likely to catch something than if you actively show that you are looking at other people during the day because they're going to be more careless.

[Davsto]

But honestly that's just a playstyle thing and entirely irrelevant in regards to alignments.