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Plotinus Kitten Caboodle
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The failure mode of clever is asshole.
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Tere Mafia Scum
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Get a room: RC and EspeMostly V/LA at weekends. GTKAS - Tere
I am also really too busy to play mafia to the quality level I prefer. I should spectate. If you see me in more than one game tell me off! Also invite me to cool games to spectate. I will bring cupcakes! <3-
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Postie Any/allJack of All TradesAny/all
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Get a Room: RadiantCowbells and Espeonage
It takes 3 votes to get a room.
Espeonage and RadiantCowbells(R-0): RadiantCowbells, Tere, Postie<— ROOM
Bins and herrcombs(R-2): herrcombs
Not Voting(5): Bins, notscience, Espeonage, The_Jester, ApricityLast edited by Plotinus on Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:40 am, edited 1 time in total.Discourse is fleeting, but junk mail is forever.-
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Postie Any/allJack of All TradesAny/all
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Please explain.Discourse is fleeting, but junk mail is forever.-
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Postie Any/allJack of All TradesAny/all
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Tere Mafia Scum
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Get a Room: Postie and HerrcombsMostly V/LA at weekends. GTKAS - Tere
I am also really too busy to play mafia to the quality level I prefer. I should spectate. If you see me in more than one game tell me off! Also invite me to cool games to spectate. I will bring cupcakes! <3-
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Tere Mafia Scum
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Also what the hell did I last watch in the last votecountMostly V/LA at weekends. GTKAS - Tere
I am also really too busy to play mafia to the quality level I prefer. I should spectate. If you see me in more than one game tell me off! Also invite me to cool games to spectate. I will bring cupcakes! <3-
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Postie Any/allJack of All TradesAny/all
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In post 380, Postie wrote:Additionally, he followed that up with something along the lines of "I only said this other thing and I didn't say this other other thing" and then later "and I also didn't say this other other other thing", which does read a bit like he was trying to dance around explaining the situation properly and just trying not totechnicallylie. Kind-of like if you were to ask a person if they'd killed your friend Sally and they replied, "No, I wasn't the one who killed them." because actually they hired a hitman.
Posting a paraphrased version of this now so that I can post it in a PT without having to re-paraphrase if I want to post it here. This is the conversation I had with Espe in regard to the herr "slip". Stealing RC's method of paraphrasing for this (no translator was used).
Postie wrote:Espeonage wrote:He [notscience] was sort of expressing amusement regarding the situation and conceeded that I ought to speak of it when I am able.
Canst thou develop on these things? Did it appear that he was averse to conceeding that thou ought to speak of it when you are able or didst he advocate for it?
Espeonage wrote:Naw, he conceeded that I wouldst be obliged to mention this thing, and declared he presumed I wouldst.
However, my main concern was with the shift in frequency henceforth. He behaved somewhat icily, said to attempt my most excellent stab because he is very difficult to get hanged and things of that sort, and additionally the assault on me out of nothingness.
And aye, I wouldst not assert that it be slip if not for some other thing to back this idea.
Postie wrote:O, alright.
Didst thou declare that thou were contemplating making use of it in order to get him hanged?
Espeonage wrote:Naw, only proclaimed that I wouldst be sharing this knowledge with others and not pressing it further without me having some other thing regarding the issue. Also things concerning both. Just pressing one of them due to this is foolish.
Postie wrote:That is indeed strange. At the time notscience revealed the state of affairs to me, he told me that thou said to him that thou may possiblity want to make use of this to get him hanged in order to know whether it be a true slip.
Is there something I have missed or dost a person among you lie to me?
Espeonage wrote:I am unsure if I am allowed to make use of the precise words, but I stated I would bring it up but wouldst not press it except in circumstances where I had other things to back this idea.
This does break your post restriction with RC a little bit, yeah. You can talk about each other in (expired on 2015-11-09 18:15:00). --PLast edited by Plotinus on Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:11 am, edited 1 time in total.Discourse is fleeting, but junk mail is forever.-
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Postie Any/allJack of All TradesAny/all
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herrcombs Goon
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herrcombs Goon
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Ok, here's the direction I want to take.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: RadiantCowbells
I don't like RC's push on me in the slightest. I don't like how little he's interacted with people in the main thread. I don't like his entrance and interaction with Apricity that I pointed out in my 334. I'm going to dump some supporting info that has led me to view RC as scum:
After I posted my 334, RC called for a PT between me and him. He asked me two questions: what my exact read on Postie was; and if I'm scumreading RC, why go for the NS lynch over his. Here was my response (p.s. I got a greenlight from the mod to quote myself in what I said in PTs):
Spoiler: my first post to RC
I asked the second question because he had recently replaced in, and I wanted to see if he used similar language/reasoning that other people had used in the game or privately with me. I felt like that info might be useful later on, once we get a scumflip. He said that question had no point, would not produce an alignment-indicative response, and it was "fucking fake dude." He said that it was half of his reason for scumreading me. (He said this before I explained why I asked him the question.) His other answers to my questions were, respectively, "the lynch mechanics;" it was Postie but now it's me (without further elaboration); and basically 'I'm not telling you because you're not town'. He told me that he's going to spend this game getting me lynched or die trying.
After I asked him what the other half of his reason was (I actually had to repeat my question because he was ignoring questions I was asking him: 1) what the "other half" of his reason was for scumreading me, and 2) what he would do once I flipped town), he thinks Postie and I are scumbuddies and I was chainsaw defending her with my post 334 in the main thread. I pointed out to him "Postie's been your only push this game (well, before your switch to me). And I thought it was suspicious, so of course I would call it out." Then I pointed out the following regarding his "chainsaw defense" theory, which he has yet to respond to:
Spoiler: chainsaw defense theory
We didn't chat much since then. Well, I observed that he was probably going to find the support for my lynch, and I warned him if he's town against using misunderstandings/misrepresentations to push my wagon that could lead town down another mislynch rabbit hole tomorrow, to which he said 'there's no way at all that I'm getting mislynched this game, so don't you worry.' I have asked RC to disclose his thought processes to me in case I can clear up any confusion (because to me obviously he's confused about something since he wants a townie dead so badly), but he's made it very clear that he doesn't want to work with me and there's little I can do at this point to change his mind.
Then he asked me another couple of questions yesterday (that I did not see until today) that stink like shit. Q1: why I voted NS and then immediately set RC up as a "future vote switch after". Q2: he noted that my push against NS was based on things NS was currently doing and "not his alignment", leaving it very easy for me to switch. These are both absurd questions (and the first one is a flat-out loaded question designed to trap me). Is it against the rules or something to scumhunt and put pressure on people you're not voting for at the time? And it feels like RC is accusing me of being scummy for trying to gather evidence to develop my reads, rather than convincing myself of someone's alignment and then seeking evidence for that. Doesn't this seem backwards to anyone else?
And to the next person that says "wow herr ur being so defensive!!1!" Damn right I'm being defensive. I need to defend myself from absurd and bullshit cases that have apparently garnered enough support to put me at L-2 and that I think are being driven by scum trying to get an easy mislynch. RC is pushing a case against me based on unflipped associations and other shit that he's trying to say is scummy just cause. I don't see a reason for town doing this.
I don't have much more time today or tomorrow to devote to this game, so I'm going to post my reads next. If you want to ask me questions about them, feel free -- I'll do my best to elaborate before the day is over.
This unfortunately breaks your post restriction with Postie. You can talk about her in (expired on 2015-11-10 18:05:00). --PLast edited by Plotinus on Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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herrcombs Goon
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Current reads:
notscience: leanscum
The_Jester: null
Postie: town
RC: scum
Apricity: null
Tere: leantown
Bins: town
Espe: leantown
This breaks your postie post restriction unfortunately. You can talk about her in (expired on 2015-11-10 18:05:00)Last edited by Plotinus on Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
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herrcombs Goon
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Tere Mafia Scum
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good luck with410Mostly V/LA at weekends. GTKAS - Tere
I am also really too busy to play mafia to the quality level I prefer. I should spectate. If you see me in more than one game tell me off! Also invite me to cool games to spectate. I will bring cupcakes! <3-
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Tere Mafia Scum
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also lol.Mostly V/LA at weekends. GTKAS - Tere
I am also really too busy to play mafia to the quality level I prefer. I should spectate. If you see me in more than one game tell me off! Also invite me to cool games to spectate. I will bring cupcakes! <3-
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Tere Mafia Scum
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Wanna go 1v1 with RC, Herrcombs?Mostly V/LA at weekends. GTKAS - Tere
I am also really too busy to play mafia to the quality level I prefer. I should spectate. If you see me in more than one game tell me off! Also invite me to cool games to spectate. I will bring cupcakes! <3-
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Bins Survivor
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herrcombs Goon
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In post 418, Bins wrote:can we lynch Espe
Could you remind me what your problem with Espe is? Is it anything new, or does it go back to that early game stuff? (For having him as your strongest scumread in your 317, it doesn't look like you've really elaborated all that much recently on why he's scummiest to you...)
Oh and speaking of your 317, what's your read on Tere? And The_Jester?-
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Espeonage anySurvivorany
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RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
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RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
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Plotinus Kitten Caboodle
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И пак проверувам, буден сум ил сонувам
And I verify again, am I awake or dreamingThe failure mode of clever is asshole.
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