Mini 1737: Bringer Mafia [Mafia Win]

[Fraggernaut]

I'm also pretty sure the way he attacked the PatientZer0 wagon without really addressing any of the people makes Fragger scum as well, but I think that Patient scumflip confirms Fragger way harder than vice versa so this is what I'm going to vote today.

Who?

[Accountant]

> I think Fraggernaut must die.

*people get cold feet and hop off his wagon*

> Guys Fragger should die but if you don't have the balls to do it at least get Slandaar instead.

> this is backpedalling

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm also pretty sure the way

PatientZer0

attacked the

Fraggernau

t wagon without really addressing any of the people makes Fragger scum as well, but I think that Patient scumflip confirms Fragger way harder than vice versa so this is what I'm going to vote today.

I slept 0 hours because of my cough.

[Accountant]

I'm also pretty sure the way he attacked the PatientZer0 wagon without really addressing any of the people makes Fragger scum as well, but I think that Patient scumflip confirms Fragger way harder than vice versa so this is what I'm going to vote today.

Who?

He corrected that quote with an edit in bold later on, not sure why you are deliberately using the old, faulty version.

[RadiantCowbells]

We posted at the exact same time so I didn't get the option to change my post.

funny.

[Fraggernaut]

Bulletproof's case on me is basically a huge misrepresentation considering that I never IIOA'd and while I had a lot of non game related posts at the time I actually had quite a bit more content than most players, and his Fragger case is generic and just accuses him of AtEing and OMGUSing without explaining why either of them are scummy. Then the AA case basically says that he's town and then became scum for lurking and a vague reference to scum meta without (again) explaining why he's scum for it, and now AA has had a ton of content and he's still a scumread.

That's absolute shit.

I have explained. Thanks again for not reading. Top notch

Also I'm responding as I read on my phone. Driving home

[BNL]

Remember when All Alone claimed she "does that every game?"
From the "do you play to your town meta as scum" thread in mafia discussion:

I don't play to my town meta. I play to my scum wincon and insist it's my town meta.

This is something I completely agree with. In fact I wanted to post this, but it felt like cheating to me, as it was something lifted of discussion, which people normally post the truth. This also secretly increased my scum read on AA, but I didn't want to quote off MD.

Accountant, do you scum read AA for claming that he (she?) "does that every game"? (Also, you seem to think AA is a girl, has AA said this somewhere?)

[RadiantCowbells]

That post is literally not about you at all.

And please don't fucking text and drive yo. Phone down and respond when you get back.

[Fraggernaut]

I'm also pretty sure the way

PatientZer0

attacked the

Fraggernau

t wagon without really addressing any of the people makes Fragger scum as well, but I think that Patient scumflip confirms Fragger way harder than vice versa so this is what I'm going to vote today.

So are you not reading Slandaar for the exact reason?

[RadiantCowbells]

I am scumreading Slandy actually, except for the fact that his opening post was incredibly towny.

But it's nowhere near as strong a wagon as P0 or yourself.

[Accountant]

I note that you did not express any support for a P0 lynch.

Saying nothing until I see Patient's response to your accusations.

The fact that you want a hard claim day one makes me read you even more scummy. There is no way this logic comes from town especially when you're trying to out a PR while hiding it behind a disguise. This is a pretty bad form of trying to PR hunt while making it look like you're scum hunting.

Scum doesn't care what the exact role of the PR is. If they know you are a PR, they will off you. And they already know you are a PR beccause you keep fucking softclaiming. So scum!AA has no reason to role fish like this.

I mean, hard claims are usually what happens when a PR gets pushed to L-1, right?

[Accountant]

Remember when All Alone claimed she "does that every game?"
From the "do you play to your town meta as scum" thread in mafia discussion:

I don't play to my town meta. I play to my scum wincon and insist it's my town meta.

This is something I completely agree with. In fact I wanted to post this, but it felt like cheating to me, as it was something lifted of discussion, which people normally post the truth. This also secretly increased my scum read on AA, but I didn't want to quote off MD.

Accountant, do you scum read AA for claming that he (she?) "does that every game"? (Also, you seem to think AA is a girl, has AA said this somewhere?)

No, because if he was town he would still use this defense, so it doesn't prove he is scum. It does mean that I am disregarding any attempts to use meta to make him look good from now on thought.

[Accountant]

I am scumreading Slandy actually, except for the fact that his opening post was incredibly towny.

But it's nowhere near as strong a wagon as P0 or yourself.

He stated in Mystery Mansion Mafia(where he was town and hence telling the truth) that he makes an opening post like that every game.

[RadiantCowbells]

He can try to make an opening post like that every game, but pulling something like that off casually isn't nearly as easy as it seems.

[Fraggernaut]

Accountant's still town, FrozenAngel is probably town as well. Pretty sure AA is as well.

Bulletproof's readlist was weird as fuck and I get the definite impression that he's trying to keep all push options available.

Slandaar is usually fucking obvious town by this point and this game he's not, but I've actually never seen Slandy's scum game so I'm not sure whether I should be thinking about him yet.

In your #403 you're unsure about what to think in regards to Slandaar or if you should even be thinking about him.

Like, I flat out will not use Mega Zam or MMY simply because I'm completely fucking fed up with games being thrown over stupid focus blast misses.

I want to run Victini just to Victory Star the accuracy up, christ.

I still want to lynch Fraggernaut. But if you people don't want to lynch Fragger(why?!), I think we should go for Blocky, Fuzzy(mayybe) or Slandaar.

I'm still fully down for a Slandaar lynch but I want to see what happens here.

I note that you did not express any support for a P0 lynch.

Wow, I got IIOA and shitposting messed up. I had been assuming they were the same, but the difference is that IIOA is talking facts about the game without analysis, while shitposting is posting non-game related stuff *cough song cough*

That entire post and that's what you chose to respond to?

Who/What is Focus Blast?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ ... ast_(move)

Just thirteen posts later in #420 you stste that you're "still fully down" for a Slandaar lynch.

I am scumreading Slandy actually, except for the fact that his opening post was incredibly towny.

But it's nowhere near as strong a wagon as P0 or yourself.

Now you're scum reading Slandaar suddenly?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm scumreading him but not sure if I should be thinking about lynching him right now, yes.

[Fraggernaut]

I note that you did not express any support for a P0 lynch.

Saying nothing until I see Patient's response to your accusations.

The fact that you want a hard claim day one makes me read you even more scummy. There is no way this logic comes from town especially when you're trying to out a PR while hiding it behind a disguise. This is a pretty bad form of trying to PR hunt while making it look like you're scum hunting.

Scum doesn't care what the exact role of the PR is. If they know you are a PR, they will off you. And they already know you are a PR beccause you keep fucking softclaiming. So scum!AA has no reason to role fish like this.

I mean, hard claims are usually what happens when a PR gets pushed to L-1, right?

Posts like this don't make it any more obvious?

[RadiantCowbells]

I scumread him D1/D2 in the game with Titus's god tier throw but then he became obvious town D3.

I figure if Slandy's town it will become obvious at some point and I can lynch him later if that doesn't happen.

I'm not about to start pushing someone who is actually useful as town because they're lurking D1.

[Accountant]

Titus's god tier throw

Titus isn't in this game. Clarify?

[RadiantCowbells]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=62114

I note that I call it Titus's god tier throw because that's probably the easiest shorthand for it but that was loss was in a large part my fault for being antagonistic.

[BNL]

I figure if Slandy's town it will become obvious at some point and I can lynch him later if that doesn't happen.

I don't like this

[Accountant]

That quote reads null to me, especially when FRAGGERMAFIANAUT is still alive.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why don't you like it, BP?

[RadiantCowbells]

That quote reads null to me, especially when FRAGGERMAFIANAUT is still alive.

This implies that he's at least somewhat right that the quote is scummy.

Why is this the case?

[Accountant]

That quote reads null to me, especially when FRAGGERMAFIANAUT is still alive.

This implies that he's at least somewhat right that the quote is scummy.

Why is this the case?

You look like you are making excuses for Slandaar to keep him alive.