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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:05 am

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In post 48, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:All of them.


I'm just 1 hour?
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:09 am

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You can quickly go through all of someone's topics, pick put all their games, ISO the first several posts and compare it to their alignment, and draw a conclusion about how someone plays RVS as scum vs town.
There is no good or evil. There is only fun and boring.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:10 am

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Do mine next! If you guess my align I'll vote him.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:12 am

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In post 46, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:Im getting a gut scumread from Persivul. I checked it against his meta and it checks out.

UNVOTE: Guilty
VOTE: Persivul

Serious vote.

Discuss.

Well he opened jokingly, didn't say much and then came in with a "firebringer just coasts by" sad to say it but I actually think he is town mate.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:25 am

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In post 48, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:All of them.

I find it difficult to believe that you've come up with meaningful meta tells at this point in a game. I suspect you rather put this up to see how I'd react.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:33 am

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In post 51, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:You can quickly go through all of someone's topics, pick put all their games, ISO the first several posts and compare it to their alignment, and draw a conclusion about how someone plays RVS as scum vs town.

In this game I started out playful.

In this game:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=25810

I also started out playful, and I was town.

So, you need to post some specifics if you really think there's merit to the charge.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:41 am

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gut scumread

based on how you were asking semi-pointless questions. It's really not strong but if anyone has literally any other reads then by all means, speak up.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:00 am

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In post 46, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:Im getting a gut scumread from Persivul. I checked it against his meta and it checks out.

UNVOTE: Guilty
VOTE: Persivul

Serious vote.

Discuss.

Discuss what?

You have pot pointed out exactly what it is that you find scummy with his RVS posting. What do you mean with semi-pointless questions? Almost everything in RVS is semi-pointless if you ask me. What does your meta dive say town persivul acts like?
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:04 am

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In post 40, Persivul wrote:
In post 36, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:
Firebringer is fun. I like him.

Yep...and he uses that to coast, joking around but adding little real content.

And does this with his posting thus far give you any type of read on fire?
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:07 am

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In post 5, GuiltyLion wrote:Hey all!

VOTE: FA_Q2

Because I have never played with you before.

Well then, now you have :D

Do you have anything else to say past a single RVS vote because you have not played with me before?



On an unrelated to the game note - you are in the same location as I am. Small world.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:16 am

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I've not played with FA either. :shifty:
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:20 am

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In post 51, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:You can quickly go through all of someone's topics, pick put all their games, ISO the first several posts and compare it to their alignment, and draw a conclusion about how someone plays RVS as scum vs town.

I just checked your first post on page 3 in every game you've played, and each one of them was moronic.

So, this moronic post is not alignment indicative.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:24 am

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Was he a mix of town and scum in those games?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:24 am

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In post 58, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 40, Persivul wrote:
In post 36, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:
Firebringer is fun. I like him.

Yep...and he uses that to coast, joking around but adding little real content.

And does this with his posting thus far give you any type of read on fire?

His posting since then has been more townie, but that could have been in response to my comment. So, too soon to say.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:24 am

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In post 62, Vedith wrote:Was he a mix of town and scum in those games?

You know I was joking, right?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:25 am

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'She made someone haul a rack up eight flights of stairs and down six more, just to dry tablecloths?'
'A very determined woman, your great-grandmother.'


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Firebringer [L-3] - The Betting Pool, Vedith

FA_Q2 [L-4] - GuiltyLion
Vedith - [L-4] - Firebringer
The Betting Pool [L-4] - A Simple Plan
A Simple Plan - [L-4] - Persivul
Persivul - [L-4] - Chaotic Neutrality

Not Voting [2] - GrayFoxxxx, FA_Q2

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LA during normal working and sleeping hours EST

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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:25 am

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In post 64, Persivul wrote:You know I was joking, right?


Do you think I would have asked if I thought "You know what, he's joking!"?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:28 am

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Fair enough. I was joking. I didn't really check the first post he made on page 3 in every game to look for a trend.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:37 am

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That's a shame.
I don't but push anyway
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:12 pm

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In post 30, Vedith wrote:
In post 25, A Simple Plan wrote:@Vedith: What's the point of setup spec so early in the game? What do you hope to accomplish from discussing what the mod may or may not have thrown at us other than WIFOM?


Why are you against giving this information? Is it because you didn't want people to know you have day chat?

And for the record, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between my scum or town game. ;)

So you're dodging my question?

It's not that I'm against giving the information, but how does previous game spec really relate, even if they're the same theme? If I were to run a Harry Potter theme, I could see Harry as 2-shot Deathproof, I could see Harry as a Vig, I could see him as a Follower (seeker)... My point is, what's to say anything is to be similar or the same?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:01 pm

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sorry, been busy with work (and Fallout :D ) and neglected this game for too long!

In post 46, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:Im getting a gut scumread from Persivul. I checked it against his meta and it checks out.


Can you explain what specifically in his meta is indicative of scum alignment?

In post 54, Persivul wrote:I find it difficult to believe that you've come up with meaningful meta tells at this point in a game. I suspect you rather put this up to see how I'd react.


This feels a little guarded to me, and
In post 55, Persivul wrote:So, you need to post some specifics if you really think there's merit to the charge.

reads like you'd rather dismiss his push than engage with it.

In post 59, FA_Q2 wrote:On an unrelated to the game note - you are in the same location as I am. Small world.

awesome, I love it here :cool:

Gut townleans on Fire/FA_Q2 at the moment, but I don't have much beyond that. This ASP/Vedith thread could be informative but I want to watch it resolve itself before I jump in with my opinions.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: A Simple Plan
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:19 pm

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Yeah, except you cut out the part where I did engage with it by presenting evidence to the contrary.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:29 pm

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It's more about the way you phrased it. You presented a counterexample to several hypotheses that were never explicitly stated (you were playful this game, playful!Persivul = scum!Persivul), and then hit him with "you need to justify it better". By "engage with it" I mean question it, or ask him to explain.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:44 pm

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Oh...sorry I didn't play it exactly the way you would have.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:26 pm

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Prod Dodge... Actual post tomorrow

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