Weak Bodyguard . . ?
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Weak Bodyguard . . ?
Im wondering how to weigh a town weak bodyguard when making a setup.
-He dies when he targets scum
-He dies when he successfullyprotects somebody from 1 kill
-He is much like a weakened hider. Or weakened weak hider, if you prefer. He has to crumb his hides or bgs to avoid confusion as well as his target.
Is he a net gain, or loss? Is he swingy, or setup dependent?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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Ether ♀Lyrical Rampage♀
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Is it a big one, or does the bg part of it help in any way mitigate the ability to clear people until scum hits them or them scum?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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Ether ♀Lyrical Rampage♀
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The bodyguard aspect is probably more likely to get in the way than not, since it limits who you can safely target while you're trying to build up innocents--it kind of forces you to go more for more subtle personal town reads instead of people the town trusts universally. (Normally you can go for either; the point here is that your pool is more limited and that forces you to take more risks, not that going for personal reads is worse in general.) Unless you just want to play like a straight bodyguard, which is probably still the worse option.As I move my vote
Towards your wagon, town is taking note
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chamber Cases are scummy
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very true.
Weak BG is kinda in a weird place role-wise.
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Its comparable to the hider in terms of who you should target. (How you play the role)
Its comparable to a weak doctor in that you get same info as you would get from a weak doctor
But its the weakest of the three as it has the greatest chance of dying each night
Hider > Weak Doctor > Weak BGLast edited by PokerFace on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:07 am, edited 3 times in total.-
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St Constantine the Hermit Mafia Scum
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Actually I kind of think the role just causes a lot of speculation and cannot actually confirm anybody. The nature of the death has three possible circumstances behind it.ShowAye, let old constantine spin ye a tale...
Book of Constantine (Protestant) 214: 112 - God hates you
Book of Constantine (Catholic) 214:112 - God doesn't like you
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I would not use a weak bodyguard. It wont do much good and it would just distract games with a lot of nonsense speculation.ShowAye, let old constantine spin ye a tale...
Book of Constantine (Protestant) 214: 112 - God hates you
Book of Constantine (Catholic) 214:112 - God doesn't like you
Book of Constantine (Orthodox) 214:112 - God tolerates you-
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St Constantine the Hermit Mafia Scum
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Wait, I get it! If he continiously protects people without saving them, then he can confirm that they are town. In that case, the role is actually very interesting, if not very difficult to use by an inexperienced player.ShowAye, let old constantine spin ye a tale...
Book of Constantine (Protestant) 214: 112 - God hates you
Book of Constantine (Catholic) 214:112 - God doesn't like you
Book of Constantine (Orthodox) 214:112 - God tolerates you-
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Best move is to probably play it like a hider. Target a town read of yours that likely wont get killed N1, and just claim out the gate D2. Stop targeting at that point unless its game breaking to continue to as it forces two kills from scum at that point.-
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In post 9, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:I would not use a weak bodyguard. It wont do much good and it would just distract games with a lot of nonsense speculation.
i disagree. i think the role has potential and could be interesting.
especially if used in conjunction with an ic.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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I like the theory of it. And Ive used it already.
I like the idea of the wifom.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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Just to be clear: the weakened bodyguard is not allowed to self-target, right? Assuming that this is the case, then I think the weakened bodyguard would have a negative utility overall.
Suppose that some weakened bodyguard Xpublicly announcestheir new target to be some player Y. If Y is mafia, then it can be assumed that the mafia would kill them first. Then the death of X would mean very little. Either X was right and they killed them for that, or that Y is innocent and that the mafia want people to suspect Y.
If X does not publicly announce anything, and is cryptic about possible suspects, then the probability of misinterpreting their posts is still very high. Too high for it to be beneficial.
So, while I like the idea of weakening roles for more balanced game play, I do not think that this particular role would work out so well.-
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