Micro 549: Everything Is A Lie 2 (Game Over)

[Donempire]

Guys someone unvote, i forgot to mention my V/LA in here, i dont want to get anyone hammered without getting to read

[Donempire]

Tbh, I'm starting to see where shos is coming from with the stuff on vonflare. His ISO doesn't look great. Then again, I'm not familiar with his meta so I might have to look into that first.

my meta is trololololololol

No truer word has been spoken

No posts at all for almost a whole day is concerning. I'm trying to post a full reads list soon by tomorrow (but hopefully soon) (it's night for me now).

In the meantime, I would like to say now that I am a

Compulsive Hammerer

. This means that I have to compulsively hammer any wagon at L-1. If you think about it, this effectively makes me Voteless, as I will have to be on any lynch wagon. It does, however, mean that the lynch threshold is reduced by one (so it's 5 votes), so be careful.

Why post it right now?

What a coincidence that not too long ago you thought of a very similar role yourself.

Also, why wouldn't this just be a passive ability - i.e. Hammerer?

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

Poor point. In fact it might even raise the chances of this role being in the game due to wgeurts seeing this and BNL joining the game etc.

I currently do not want to lynch Lilith, Shos, or Flubber.

BulletNLynchproof, if he's actually town, has to die before LYLO or else he is a risk to lose the game.

The rest of this game is pretty yuck right now, and I forgot deadlines are shorter in this one, we need to consolidate soon.

Dong why is your vote on Lilith?

I voted him in rvs and didnt changed my vote

INTENT TO HAMMER DONGEMPIRE

(I have my vote, the council vote, and bulletNlynchproof has to hammer)

we have only 22 hours left.

please claim dongempire.

this post is so fucking flawed
but they already have been pointed out

not feeling the BNL lynch, i have him as null rn, id rather lynch postie for post 238 instead tbh.

VOTE: postie

[Postie]

id rather lynch postie for post 238 instead tbh.

Why, exactly? You said you didn't like it because you thought I made a poor point (??? lol) - are poor points scummy?

[Postie]

Also, if you're going to assume we should let BNL off the hook because you think wgeurts could just be messing with us, then you're going to have to believe that the he came up with BNL's role

after

he signed up for the game, especially for him. I mean it's possible but I don't really see it as likely.

[vonflare]

Dongempire, do you have any PT at all? (neighborhood, etc)

[Donempire]

Yea i do

@von

[vonflare]

mmhmm

[shos]

Dongempire, do you have any PT at all? (neighborhood, etc)

why would youask that? O_o

[vonflare]

Have you een reading the VCs?

[lilith2013]

scum, no; town, yes. This will be relevant later in the game maybe, but right now, you all should unvote dong, and you should probably vote vonflare.

Can you give us your townreads and how you formulated them?

[lilith2013]

Thanks GL, I agree with your response actually. Focusing too much on what is and is not included in this game or what's different from last game is really just distracting us and doesn't actually do anything.

Postie looks scummy but ew wagon speed

What do you mean by this? It was just me and vonflare voting her at the time.

Waiting for your responses,

GL and

flubber.

I'll just keep quoting myself until you answer then.

Also this allows me to get reaction tests from other people so see how they respond to my voting patterns, before I revealed that I was really voteless.

What voting patterns? 3 out your 5 votes were on wgeurts or Counsel. Your other votes: one was on me for frankly pretty useless reasons, and then one was on Postie. What kind of reactions were you looking for, and what kind of reactions did you get? Did those reactions tell you anything?

Are you going to answer my questions?

*Jeopardy music*

Are either of you going to stop lurking and answer? We can see when you last logged in, you know.

[vonflare]

mod, can haz vc?

[Postie]

Are either of you going to stop lurking and answer? We can see when you last logged in, you know.

Well, BNL can't post right now unless he wants to hammer himself or admit he fakeclaimed that role.

UNVOTE:

Now he can answer.

[vonflare]

Are either of you going to stop lurking and answer? We can see when you last logged in, you know.

Well, BNL can't post right now unless he wants to hammer himself or admit he fakeclaimed that role.

UNVOTE:

Now he can answer.

that's a good point

[lilith2013]

He was only at 4 votes..

[Postie]

I just recounted and you're right. You said on the last page that he was at L-1 so I got confused.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

[vonflare]

Discourse is fleeting, but junk mail is forever.

[lilith2013]

I said L-1 if we believe his hammerer claim

[Postie]

Yeah, I misread it as sort-of like "That's L-1, [and] if BNL's hammerer claim is true[... then he has to hammer himself if he posts]"

[BNL]

Why so much disbelief that I am a compulsive hammerer? OK, I will tell you now it is only part of my role, my full role has other parts. But I am not interested in telling you what they are now.

Oh, and here is my reads list (Not in exact order, but in general from town to scum)

Shos is likely town. I don't think scum will make a gambit to "trap" vonflare while maintaining a bad iso.

Dong is likely town too, not expecting a double-bluff from wgeurts.

Davsto lean town. People who get Post Restrictions are usually one of 1) Smart town handicapped by scum 2) Town restricted by town for lolz or 3) Scum faking a PR. I like most of his content. Of course, jumping on my wagon is incorrect and scummy, but I think he is more misled by Postie than opportunistic scum.

Vonflare

Postie is likely scum. Apart from posting fluff, a lot of posts are scummy. #53 I would say is a scumslip, as she said "What if we are all scum". Town won't say this, as they know its wrong and won't lie about it. In #69 she claims she doesn't know how to scumhunt, and yet later she claims that I'm scum, and even pushes it, which shows self contradiction. Furthermore, she was townreading me at first, then switches me to a scumread after I claimed Compulsive Hammerer, saying it is a likely fakeclaim from me as I have posted a similar role, and even pushes on it. However, not only is this accusation against me false, it is also a weak argument against me, since not only is it a possible role, a scum would have chosen something better to fakeclaim. In fact, this argument is not strong, even almost a null point, so you can see it is scummy to push null points.

[BNL]

Halfway through my reads list and accidentally pressed submit, will post the other half soon

[BNL]

Guilty Lion null lean scum, liked what he has posted so far, but needs to post more. His vote on me is fair but incorrect.

Shiro null, needs to post more.

Flubber null slight lean scum, don't like his content so far, also needs to post more. Also he has been lurking without getting prodded?

Lilith null lean scum. Can't trust an IC claim from the Mod. Apart from fluffing, I also don't like how she thanks people for defending her. She has indeed posted some good content, but the IC bothers me. Can't completely rely on the IC though to determine alignment.

Vonflare null lean scum. Don't like how he's been fluffing the entire game. I think his reaction to Shos gambit is OK, but I don't really read off it.

[shos]

My activity should spike very soon.

[BNL]

So after these,

VOTE: Postie

I know my vote is worthless, but I still think its better to vote my strongest scumread in case of other vote related roles.

[Postie]

Apart from posting fluff, a lot of posts are scummy.

I wouldn't say fluff is scummy unless you do it persistently just to look like you're contributing. At the time when my content was fluffy, we were mostly still in RVS and there was barely anything going on. I wasn't using it as a way of trying to get out of providing useful content; I just didn't have much to work with.

#53 I would say is a scumslip, as she said "What if we are all scum". Town won't say this, as they know its wrong and won't lie about it.

It was quite obviously a joke.

In #69 she claims she doesn't know how to scumhunt, and yet later she claims that I'm scum, and even pushes it, which shows self contradiction.

You're misrepping. My actual words were "How do we even scumhunt in this game", which reflected my confusion at the trollish nature of everything that was going on.

Furthermore, she was townreading me at first, then switches me to a scumread after I claimed Compulsive Hammerer, saying it is a likely fakeclaim from me as I have posted a similar role, and even pushes on it. However, not only is this accusation against me false, it is also a weak argument against me, since not only is it a possible role, a scum would have chosen something better to fakeclaim. In fact, this argument is not strong, even almost a null point, so you can see it is scummy to push null points.

Is it a weak point though? Is it really? Are you kidding me?