Open 616: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[lilith2013]

Anyways, read list from last 2 pages.

The Jester is either town, or wolf among more sheep-like wolves. He seems very up-front, and this is usually associated with town. However, I also make sure to keep in mind the opposite, as my first game went terribly after I town-read 2 of the scum because they acted TOO townlike.
My Other Head Is Scum is acting townlike, but in a buddy-ish sort of way. That makes me VERY cautious of him. I'm not sure about him at all. He's in a null-scum for me right now.

I honestly think random, itlepip, and Sharky are all scum. Their interaction is just ridiculous.

Here we have your scumreads. Do you disagree that you called random, itle, and sharky scum or leaned scum on them?

I answered your questions, besides the one about the vote on Diego, which I have nothing to base it off of. I haven't seen anything scummy, and the same people who are trying to lynch him are now trying to lynch me. That leaves nothing to be said.

13 posts after you said you saw the interaction between random, itle and sharky as scummy, you say you have no scumreads.

Nobody is acting scummy enough to merit my vote currently. The only ones I'd consider are Jester and MOHIS, and neither or them are strong enough.

PEdit: statement about single player... Hmm

If Jester plays aggressive town, I will almost guarantee he's town.


I don't know if that's what you're looking for, but that's all I got.

PPEdit: None of them are strong enough.

Where did your scumreads random, itle and sharky go?

Can.. you.. answer.. my.. question?

[Wanderer-nl]

Well, I read and crap! Hi Firebringer and Vedith

I'm saying that the odds are stacked against us lynching the doctor, which is a good thing, thus, I voted. One of my many reasons to not vote on D1 until the end is that I think it's the highest chance to lynch a PR.

Waiting to vote and having a claim near DL is making the odds for lynching a PR, or reaching no lynch, bigger then getting a wagon to L-1 early and having time to get a claim and respond to it.

Diamond feels kinda newb and I'm not comfortable with how fast this wagon went to L-2. But lilith's 198 makes me like the wagon a little more..

@Itlepip: What do you actually think about Diamond being at L-2 and what are your thought on the other players voting him?

Will be back later, going to process the stuff I just read.

[Sharky5x]

stop voting diamond ppl, his newbiness isn't necessarily scummy.

[The_Jester]

Why do you think newbiness is more of a town trait? It can be easily faked.

[The_Jester]

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Jester and Diamond, are either of you going to answer my questions?

Yes.
Your answer is: no.

[The_Jester]

Diamond smells like newbscum and I want him dead.

[DiamondSentinel]

Anyways, read list from last 2 pages.

The Jester is either town, or wolf among more sheep-like wolves. He seems very up-front, and this is usually associated with town. However, I also make sure to keep in mind the opposite, as my first game went terribly after I town-read 2 of the scum because they acted TOO townlike.
My Other Head Is Scum is acting townlike, but in a buddy-ish sort of way. That makes me VERY cautious of him. I'm not sure about him at all. He's in a null-scum for me right now.

I honestly think random, itlepip, and Sharky are all scum. Their interaction is just ridiculous.

Here we have your scumreads. Do you disagree that you called random, itle, and sharky scum or leaned scum on them?

I answered your questions, besides the one about the vote on Diego, which I have nothing to base it off of. I haven't seen anything scummy, and the same people who are trying to lynch him are now trying to lynch me. That leaves nothing to be said.

13 posts after you said you saw the interaction between random, itle and sharky as scummy, you say you have no scumreads.

Nobody is acting scummy enough to merit my vote currently. The only ones I'd consider are Jester and MOHIS, and neither or them are strong enough.

PEdit: statement about single player... Hmm

If Jester plays aggressive town, I will almost guarantee he's town.


I don't know if that's what you're looking for, but that's all I got.

PPEdit: None of them are strong enough.

Where did your scumreads random, itle and sharky go?

Can.. you.. answer.. my.. question?

Question 1: They were merely musings. It's what I think at a certain time, and doesn't necessarily apply now. Just disregard them for now.
Question 2: Isn't even a question, but see above.
Question 3: Also see questions 1. Every time I post, I'm essentially posting as a new person. My reads don't carry over. I have a poor long-term memory, and won't remember my reasoning for any of this. Again, if that's scummy, then lynch me at this point.

[Randomnamechange]

It's only fun if they run

[DiamondSentinel]

random, get out of here with your MOBA bullshit.

[lilith2013]

Random, do you still have a gut read on me as newb scum? Why didn't you vote me/if you still think I'm scum, why are you not voting me now?

@Diamond: you said their interaction was just ridiculous so you thought they were scum. Has that changed? If not, why would you disregard what you thought about it at an earlier point in time?

[DiamondSentinel]

I mean, they haven't proved that they're town, yet, but at the same time I don't really know if they're town. I'm just guessing at least one of them is scum.

[itlepip]

I mean, they haven't proved that they're town, yet, but at the same time I don't really know if they're town. I'm just guessing at least one of them is scum.

If this isn't grade A fence sitting then lynch me here

[DiamondSentinel]

Yes, I realize that I fence sit. I won't deny that. The problem is that you guys are trying to force this in black-and-white perspective. They act scummy, but the situation itself can be town. As such, I'm not confident in lynching them.

[Diego1487]

You still haven't explain your thought breakthrough in 170.

[Diego1487]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

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[DiamondSentinel]

And I can't.

[Sharky5x]

Why do you think newbiness is more of a town trait? It can be easily faked.

necessarily

[The_Jester]

Why are you townreading him then?

[Sharky5x]

Why are you townreading him then?

his newbiness isn't necessarily scummy.

why are you misinterpreting me
thats not even a townlean

[The_Jester]

See, now you're saying "I don't think he's scum but I'm not saying he's town". Which is weak cause you told us not to vote him, even though you've admitted he's acting anti-town. So what's your final stance on him?

[DiamondSentinel]

Jester, can I point out one thing.

Your own signature. It suggests that you have terrible judgement. How about you listen to Sharky, and NOT VOTE FOR ME.

You are 0 for 3 with town. Maybe try listening to someone better than yourself.

[Sharky5x]

See, now you're saying "I don't think he's scum but I'm not saying he's town". Which is weak cause you told us not to vote him, even though you've admitted he's acting anti-town. So what's your final stance on him?

wtf
if I think someone has a 50/50 town/scum, and pretty much the entire game votes him in 3 pages, I shouldn't be worried?

you are also saying "anti-town = scum" which is so so wrong

pedit: LOL my record is almost as bad as jesters mate, just because im helping you out doesnt mean I have better judgement

[lilith2013]

Diamond, you're not even pretending to try to scumhunt. If you think one of those three are scum, then at least try to question them or something. At this point I'm ready to lynch you, jeez.

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

[The_Jester]

Sharky, I'm saying being anti-town is enough to be the targeted at this stage.
And I've been waiting until some weakling points out my record. You can call it a noob-bait, which you've taken pretty nicely.
Convince me I should switch my vote to itlepip.

[Sharky5x]

I guarantee there is scum (if diamond is scum then scum of the opposing faction) on that wagon.
it hurts me how easy of a target he is

pedit:
cool story jester