Open 613: Nightless Vengeful Mayhem!

[aphix]

We've already waited 10 days for something good from you Vedith.

[Vedith]

In fairness, I haven't seen anything good from you. But I understand, you want a cop out from votes on you.
How long do you think it will last? 1 lynch, 2 lynch? Before you are lynched off?

[aphix]

Wow. Yeap. Vedith is scum.

[SilverWolf]

Well, you either need to get RC to switch or hope the replacement does.

Of course, if Vedith or RC have a case on aphix, they should discuss it more or RC can explain why he thinks Vedith is town.

[ika]

wow we haevnt lycnhed yet?

[RadiantCowbells]

Vedith, stop trying to convince aphix that he's scum and just vote him.

Silver, I don't need to explain to you why someone who is obviously town is town, you need to stop voting obvious town and help me lynch scum

Ika, you need to fucking unvote yesterday.

[SilverWolf]

Right, Vedith is the makara slot who was playing very scummy, Blade Dancer did nothing to counter that, and Vedith hasn't done anything either except hammer itelpip. I see no reason to believe he's obvious town.

Vedith, do you believe aphix is scum? If so, why aren't you voting him?

[RadiantCowbells]

Listen up.

I am not changing my vote under any condition.

That means that if Vedith was scum, which the speed that his wagon developed proves otherwise, it will be literally impossible for you to lynch him. Town can only get 3 votes down.

So you're at best wasting your time and at worst abetting a scum lynch.

We lynch Aphix or we don't lynch at all, unless we maybe want to flashwagon Saphira.

[Vedith]

VOTE: aphix

[SilverWolf]

Ugh this game drives me freaking crazy sometimes with the lack of logic and the stalling and all the other crap.

So stupid.......................

We need the replacement in here or we need a deadline extension until we get one

@mod

-can we get an extension until we get a replacement please?

[ika]

Does anyone want to flash wagon rc?

[ika]

Ika, you need to fucking unvote yesterday.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: vedith

there

[aphix]

OKay. So vedith isn't trying to convince anyone that I'm scum. He's not trying to fight his wagon at all. In fact wasn't voting until pressured because he doesn't want to be seen jumping on a town lynch too early. The fact that he thinks I'll last more then three lynches indicates to me that one, we'd have to have lynched scum before then.

Also RC, if you are so sold on me being scum, why try and start a second "flash" wagon on someone. You are positive Vedith of conf town despite horrible scummy play? You are SO sold on me being scum despite the fact that I helped lynch my scum partner? What for town points? I bet if I stuck to hard defending Taly I couldn't have been in a worse place in your eyes anyways. The fact that you can't see logic or reason indicates you are either stupid or really you are just scum. I'm at the point of just wanting to policy lynch you for being a moron and don't give a fuck about your alignment or winning the game anymore.

[aphix]

Or the fact that if you are so sold on me and saph are scum ... Why do you choose the one other people that I am willing to lynch along with a few other people in the town group? Do you think I'm also trying to bus my scum partner there as well?

You are so sold on two people being scum that you are absolutely disregarding the rest of the town? Basically stating that you are willing to derail any wagons ... Forcing a random kill from the mod ... Who actually benefits from that? Guess what, no you unless you are scum.

[ika]

Forcing a random kill from the mod ... Who actually benefits from that? Guess what, no you unless you are scum.

it moves the game foward regardless

intention or not it should of been a thing from the start

[aphix]

No. I completely agree with some sort of way to actually reach end game. That's not the problem, but a random kill only benefits scum. Mathematically it's more likely to hit town. A kill with no actual motivation behind it ... Even if it hits scum it doesn't help clear anyone as town. There is no reason aiming to prevent a lynch in this situation is town motivated. At all.

[Keybladewielder]

Ugh this game drives me freaking crazy sometimes with the lack of logic and the stalling and all the other crap.

So stupid.......................

We need the replacement in here or we need a deadline extension until we get one

@mod

-can we get an extension until we get a replacement please?

as you wish. I'm dealing with some problems of my own at the moment. + 1 week from the timer.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm going to wait for a replacement, thanks.

Contrary to Aphix's assertions I'm not positive that Saphira is the last scum slot because I was townreading her for a while.

I'm pretty damn sure it's not vedith so that leaves Ika, Wolf, Saph.

I want to reread Ika and Wolf and I want to see what our replacement does. I ask you guys to unvote at least till we get a replacement.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, everyone who is scumreading Vedith. Who is his partner?

[RadiantCowbells]

OKay. So vedith isn't trying to convince anyone that I'm scum. He's not trying to fight his wagon at all. In fact wasn't voting until pressured because he doesn't want to be seen jumping on a town lynch too early. The fact that he thinks I'll last more then three lynches indicates to me that one, we'd have to have lynched scum before then.

Also RC, if you are so sold on me being scum, why try and start a second "flash" wagon on someone. You are positive Vedith of conf town despite horrible scummy play? You are SO sold on me being scum despite the fact that I helped lynch my scum partner? What for town points? I bet if I stuck to hard defending Taly I couldn't have been in a worse place in your eyes anyways. The fact that you can't see logic or reason indicates you are either stupid or really you are just scum. I'm at the point of just wanting to policy lynch you for being a moron and don't give a fuck about your alignment or winning the game anymore.

None of that makes him scum. It's a far more likely explanation that he's Vedith being fucking Vedith and not caring about the game.

I'm not positive of anyone being scum. I'm scumreading you to the point that you're my favourite lynch but I'll gladly hit other big scumreads.

The point of this isn't about lynching you this is about NOT LYNCHING VEDITH, who I'm fucking positive is town here.

If you're town, you need to realize that this is exactly how Vedith town plays and there's a reason he gets mislynched in every single game. I looked back at Titus's play which I didn't like at the time but now I find it really doesn't mesh with how I'd expect scum!Titus to deal with me, which in previous games has had her been extremely wary of engaging in discourse with me at all. Even if you still think that Vedith is scum then you can at least wait for the replacement go in so that we can sort that slot.

[RadiantCowbells]

[quote="In post 660, ika"][/quote]

You know this is fucking funny because that'd probably help town a ton in winning the games if you started paying attention to my reads after I was confirmed town.

I fucked up on Itle but that was mostly a PoE read and I'm peeling those back. No vedith lynch pls.

[RadiantCowbells]

And no, I would gladly take a random shot over someone that I'm pretty damn sure is town.

[Vedith]

None of that makes him scum. It's a far more likely explanation that he's Vedith being fucking Vedith and not caring about the game.

Why are you discrediting my games by saying that I don't care about games?
There is no point at me pointing a finger at someone being scum just to stop my own lynch if I don't have anything on them.

As it stands, Saphira and aphix are the only two I don't town read.
We have a max of 1 mis lynch left though.

[aphix]

Pretty confident there is at least one scum in vedith and saph. And considering vedith has done nothing and his predecessors have been quite scummy I'm still content to see it lynched.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like Vedith I really don't wanna fucking lose this but I'm not going to keep you alive if you won't help me at all.