Touhou UPick 4 - [Aborted]

[Kagami]

Why do you have muffin as town, ferry?

[fferyllt]

I can't even begin to list the reasons why. Pretty much everything he's posted tracks to his approach as town, from that very first post where he seemed contemplative about whether his multivote made him inno child levels of town.

There are some games where I hesitate and take a long while to figure him out, and nearly all his scum games that I've played with him fall into that subset of games, along with several town games, so it's not a cut and dried thing at all. Then there are games like Serum and Steel and to a lesser (but not much lesser) extent Tales of You, where his first post makes it abundantly clear and everything else follows from there.

This is one of the latter games.

I would bet the game on his alignment.

[Kagami]

In some sense, the game is indeed a bet on his alignment, which I'm taking as town myself.

I don't really agree with the appraisal that his IC statement is a font from which towniness flows, but whatever.

What do you take to the overall scum trajectory in this game?

[fferyllt]

What do you take to the overall scum trajectory in this game?

I'm not sure what you're asking.

[Kagami]

take to be*

[fferyllt]

I'm not sure. If I were, I'd know where I want to vote today.

I'm leaning back toward bork being scum, partly because of the way chocula kept being pushed as an alternative lynch, more than bork's own posts. But following that trail departs pretty far from what I see as my day 1 strengths. Approaching day 1 in my usual mindset isn't happening this game so far. :/

[Kagami]

Well, 1098 suggests something about what you think scum are aiming for here.

You posit some subset wanted to lynch your slot and paint it as a lurker PL, while some other subset is ok with that while backhandedly defending your slot, perhaps.

Or if bork is scum and you were the CW, then scum had a more central role in the choco push, no?

What does the constituency of a bork team look like to you?

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.16

• notscience [
  2
  ] - thdgkdms
  
• pieguyn [
  1
  ] -
  
• Sakura Hana [0] -
  
• zMuffinMan [
  -4
  ] -
  
• Shadoweh [0] -
  
• Sky_Paladin [0] -
  
• The_Relentless [2] - Katsuki, Sky_Paladin
  
• GuyInFreezer [0] -
  
• SXTLHGaiden [0] -
  
• Katsuki [0] -
  
• Kagami [0] -
  
• Feysal [3] - Kilgamayan, The_Relentless, borkjerfkin
  
• borkjerfkin [3] - notscience, Feysal, Sakura Hana
  
• thdgkdms [0] -
  
• Kilgamayan [
  3
  ] -
  
• fferyllt [2] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer

Not Voting [5]

- Shadoweh, zMuffinMan, SXTLHGaiden, Kagami, fferyllt

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch

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Deadline is November 19, 2015, at 2 PM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-11-19 16:00:00)

Notes:

• You cannot target Katsuki with spellcards in this Day Phase, unless your vote is on Katsuki.
  
• The main thread will remain open in the coming Night Phase.

[fferyllt]

Well, 1098 suggests something about what you think scum are aiming for here.

You posit some subset wanted to lynch your slot and paint it as a lurker PL, while some other subset is ok with that while backhandedly defending your slot, perhaps.

Or if bork is scum and you were the CW, then scum had a more central role in the choco push, no?

What does the constituency of a bork team look like to you?

If I'm right, then the constituency looks a lot like you and pieguyn.

[fferyllt]

That's not what I thought you were asking, because I thought that inference was pretty obvious, given I pulled it out and posted it seperately for emphasis and ease of location.

[Kagami]

So then your vote is super easy, no?

You'd vote pie, since I'd have to pretend that something happens that prevents me from killing bork on D2.

[fferyllt]

It might be super easy if Pie had caught up with the game.

And it might also be super easy if I had reason to think I can sift through that sort of stuff and tell the random from the meaningful.

Right now, it's something I want to hold on to and see what unfolds. And more importantly it's something I don't want to die with me in the event of my demise.

[Kagami]

I doubt you're dying anytime soon.

[notscience]

YEAH DANIsH CATCH UP WITH THE FUCKING GAME

[notscience]

Guyincoldplace

where's your head at

[zMuffinMan]

I will murderise anyone who reaches L-4 at this point so claim early or forever hold your peace

[notscience]

what if we get you to l-4

[fferyllt]

So then your vote is super easy, no?

You'd vote pie, since I'd have to pretend that something happens that prevents me from killing bork on D2.

Why would I vote Pie over Bork?

[Kagami]

Then you'd be giving me an excuse not to deadify anyone, no?

If you're wrong on only me, then bork is taken care of anyway.

[fferyllt]

hmm.

[pieguyn]

Ugh, OK.

I promise I'll at least be able to read everything and at least post something when I get back off of work and get home (like in 3 hours). I might not have enough time to do anything drastic, though (my fault for taking too long).

[pieguyn]

I'm not lynching Feysal btw.

[fferyllt]

Then you'd be giving me an excuse not to deadify anyone, no?

If you're wrong on only me, then bork is taken care of anyway.

I missed the significance of some of this discussion. Which maybe weakens the pattern of similarity in your stances with Pieguy's. At least on the surface you have some different reasons - that weren't revealed at the time you were taking those stances - for preferring bork not be lynched today.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: bork

bc I'm not lynching Feysal

[Sakura Hana]

My gut's saying ffery is scum again...
Then again my scumteam guess includes both ffery and bork.

If Ffery's scum there's 60% chance someone in the SDM is scum, or scum's spying.