Micro 551 — Vanilla-Free Greatest Idea Mafia — Game Over!

[Hinduragi]

Really REALLY don't think that now was a good time to claim that. At all. We're like 2 fuckin days into this game. Too soon. Hell, one of these guys even has 2 posts. TWO. I can't make a decision based off of that.

[Hinduragi]

Jesus Christ, Lucky, if I didn't think you were town, I would vote the shit out of you. You pop up at the exact scummiest moments possible.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Really REALLY don't think that now was a good time to claim that. At all. We're like 2 fuckin days into this game. Too soon. Hell, one of these guys even has 2 posts. TWO. I can't make a decision based off of that.

Normally I would have, but I don't really take these Great/Greater/Greatest idea games too seriously. Might as well make it interesting. I don't mind waiting a few days.

[Bowser]

DAY 1. VOTECOUNT 03.

(1)

Hinduragi

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Soren

(2)

Chaotic Neutrality

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Suzune, Hinduragi

(0)

gummmybear

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(1)

aphix

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EspeciallyTheLies

(0)

Soren

—

(3)

Vedith

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aphix, gummmybear, Lucky2u

(L-2)

(1)

Suzune

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Chaotic Neutrality

(0)

EspeciallyTheLies

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(1)

Lucky2u

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Vedith

(0)

Not Voting

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With

9 alive

, it takes

5 votes

to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-12-04 15:30:52)

(Fri Dec 4 @ 3:30:00 PM EST).

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[EspeciallyTheLies]

It was going to happen before the end of the day anyway, so just pretend we get two flips today.

[Lucky2u]

I do what I can red.

I like this version of ETL. It's going to be a fun day.

[Hinduragi]

If that's the kind of game we're playing -

I vote to take out gummy. He's not saying much and he jumped on that wagon at an opportune moment.

Plus it would be hilarious as he last said this--

Will explain more when I'm back home, semi-v/la from now till Sunday evening (GMT+8) timing

And he'd come back to see himself dead.

[Lucky2u]

I'm assuming that's intentionally troll...

[Hinduragi]

Nah, I think he has a good chance of turning up scum.

[aphix]

Aphix' policy lynch seems to be based on a personal grudge. Yeah, not following that.

Alright. Please explain to me in your own words what you think my policy lynch is here ... And explain how you think it's a personal grudge?

[Vedith]

Nah, I think he has a good chance of turning up scum.

Have you played with him before, or just taking a guess that he is scum from lurking?

[Soren]

Vote: Chaotic Neutrality

In all honesty, I want to see how this game's night phase plays out. Is it usually chaos? Sounds fun.

Quite a few people dies.

Lucky discarded a mafia card and claims to have gotten a werewolf and compulsive childkiller card. Looking at how anti town the compulsive childkiller is, I can see how Lucky would choose that for his alignment instead. But that would only be the case if his other card is town. But since he got a werewolf card I can easily see him taking the werewolf alignment and taking the compulsive childkiller card so that he gets a free kill if there is an innocent child.

from my POV i don't see the second situation as a choice lucky would likely make because it's not useful compared to his discard, if he really wanted to be an anti-town faction. he could have taken mafia and used the ww card as the ability. compulsive child killer is a risky card to claim, and his claiming it makes him more likely to be telling the truth.

That does make sense, but I'm screwing my own mind over with wifom.

ok, i dont really expect to make it to endgame here, and my usual scum hunting methods are useless. i probably should have taken mafia but meh.

i'm a dayvig

and bowser says my shot wont end the day. so how about we make this useful and yall tell me whose flip you think would be the most helpful.

So the step here was that you can't scum hunt so you'll rely on people's flips... It's a logical process I would say since scum hunting in this game is very hard. Especially with multiple scum factions, everyone is going to want to find other scum teams. So it's hard to say whether that is coming from town or scum trying to work out scum from other scum teams.
I'll say that your claim is bit premature, but nothing that I will nail you for. Lots of greatest idea mafia games ends up with everyone mass claiming. Something which I find takes the joy out of this setup.

Uhhh, vedith's flip would be most helpful but I'm not confident about any reads right now, man. You should've saved that shit for later LOL. Do you have infinite shots?

What would vedith's flip tell you?

oh... I guess we're moving to the speed round then...

I'd say Vedith's. it ends that conversation right now and there is a chance he is scum.

What logical process did you take to assume that there is a chance he is scum? Since everyone in this game has a chance of being scum.

Aphix' policy lynch seems to be based on a personal grudge. Yeah, not following that.

Alright. Please explain to me in your own words what you think my policy lynch is here ... And explain how you think it's a personal grudge?

I'm going to assume you're asking me that because I misinterpreted it. Please explain to me your policy lynch because you've haven't really stated why Vedith is a policy lynch.

[Chaotic Neutrality]

Really REALLY don't think that now was a good time to claim that. At all. We're like 2 fuckin days into this game. Too soon. Hell, one of these guys even has 2 posts. TWO. I can't make a decision based off of that.

Normally I would have, but I don't really take these Great/Greater/Greatest idea games too seriously. Might as well make it interesting. I don't mind waiting a few days.

I would be on board with a Vedith policyvig but that wouldn't tell us anything. Not worth it in a micro.

Isn't it still possible for a dayvig to be scum this game?

[Suzune]

According to the card list there are two day vig townies in the deck and one day vig mafia so sure it is possible for them to be scum.

[Soren]

Really REALLY don't think that now was a good time to claim that. At all. We're like 2 fuckin days into this game. Too soon. Hell, one of these guys even has 2 posts. TWO. I can't make a decision based off of that.

Normally I would have, but I don't really take these Great/Greater/Greatest idea games too seriously. Might as well make it interesting. I don't mind waiting a few days.

I would be on board with a Vedith policyvig but that wouldn't tell us anything. Not worth it in a micro.

Isn't it still possible for a dayvig to be scum this game?

What is the policy lynch founded upon?

[Soren]

According to the card list there are two day vig townies in the deck and one day vig mafia so sure it is possible for them to be scum.

He must the dayvig for his ability. So his alignment would be determined by his other card.

[Hinduragi]

Goddammit guys, you were supposed to see who he vigs before letting the cat out of the bag that it's possible he might not be town.

[Lucky2u]

What logical process did you take to assume that there is a chance he is scum? Since everyone in this game has a chance of being scum.

are you playing this game based on math?

[Lucky2u]

Goddammit guys, you were supposed to see who he vigs before letting the cat out of the bag that it's possible he might not be town.

since it's out of the bag. do you think ETL is likely doing this as scum? Wouldn't it have been better for her to hold the shot and use it as a game closer or even wait until it's likely she'll get lynched as a pre-emptive strike so to speak? I've been thinking about the way she is doing this and it doesn't strike me as the scum way to do day vig. I am NOT conf towning her but I read it as town.

[Suzune]

Goddammit guys, you were supposed to see who he vigs before letting the cat out of the bag that it's possible he might not be town.

Why, we can speculate based on who dies his alignment we are just letting him know we are on to his game.

[Suzune]

Goddammit guys, you were supposed to see who he vigs before letting the cat out of the bag that it's possible he might not be town.

since it's out of the bag. do you think ETL is likely doing this as scum? Wouldn't it have been better for her to hold the shot and use it as a game closer or even wait until it's likely she'll get lynched as a pre-emptive strike so to speak? I've been thinking about the way she is doing this and it doesn't strike me as the scum way to do day vig. I am NOT conf towning her but I read it as town.

Personally, I think it is a threat. The idea is to get the town to trust him, why constantly moving against them. People often want a dayvig, it is usually a townie role, therefore, it builds some rapport without doing anything.

[Suzune]

Likewise, if we do not agree with him or we decide to be against him. He holds us at his mercy.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

According to the card list there are two day vig townies in the deck and one day vig mafia so sure it is possible for them to be scum.

yes but card alignment doesn't matter when it's used as the role. it was a mafia dayvig card.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

in my opinion, my alignment doesn't even matter in this game. I did choose town, but like I said, I don't expect to make it very far. I had two town cards and one mafia card. town investigator (cult or not cult) which I thought was lame, town weak jailer which I didn't like due to the high probability of large numbers of non town players, and I wanted to be a dayvig. it was the strongest role available in the cards I got.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I could have easily just shot someone without asking for input, suzune. just saying.