Mini 1741: Day 3

[Zoronos]

I wanted Math's opinion on what you wrote.

[Zoronos]

Fake Edit:
Meant to quote this. Pretend I did that.

His play since that consecutive vote is not consistent with his excuse for getting us beyond RVS. He hasn't really been analysing what people say and looking for any tells, which he would if his initial excuse for two consecutive votes was genuine. And above all, stating an intent to hammer at this stage of the game when someone isn't even at L-1.

What did you think about what Lhinx wrote about KS scum slipping?
143 / 145

I have actually explained everything, including the "intent to hammer" and scum-baiting. As I said, it was meant to bring out something with substance to analyze (as everyone is doing now) including the false votes. I explained this several pages back in great detail. I would argue the efforts of such have brought us to this point, even when we were still muddling around in RVS stage. You can reread my explanation if you wish, but it feels like my words are being glossed over.

[Elyse]

Is the scumslip his response to your scumclaim?

Hell if I know. It is likely due to my shenanigans of that kind, but I honestly dont see much going on but loads of crap having spilled over from it for the last page or so. Basically RC, Frozen, Jake, Me, Keyser all went insane for a moment from the look of it. My original motivation was as follows that i acknowledge a little bit upwards. I really dont think anything is objective or even hugely incriminating atm, the scumslip itself isnt anything major. The only reason I would consider a lynch in full would honestly be to progress the game and out suspicions, but we have no other suspicions yet. So, null? I'll unvote if anything else comes up

Ehhh I don't really like this response. It seems like you're backtracking.

My reason for asking you this is that calling keyser scum for reacting the way he did to your claim insinuates that you are scum as well, which is why I didn't understand how you thought he scumslipped.

I'm actually really suspect of Elyse being this quick to give me a townread given our last game.

What was our last game together? I haven't played in months so I'm not really up to date on meta and only have generalizations about what I remember from your play.

The keyser wagon is good with the added bonus of TheLhix scum if he flips scum. Still don't like Zulfy very much. His explanations don't add up to me.

[TheLhix]

All of my current reads are rather Null, I stated the very minor reason against Captain Planet, but wrote in detail roughly how I would only go through with it if nothing else presented itself besides the baited slip. Garmr Seems rather null, but with a town lean given his eh interest in the analysis and overall nothing objectively incriminating. Zulfy is null at the moment, I dont believe the hatewagon comments were anything more out of the ordinary than the shit of Page 5, I would say before taking any major steps we should try to bait out his own reads in full and observe his behaviors a bit longer, but he would be the only other minor issue as I have seen so far. Frozen is a town lean for me, given her activity in searching for analysis and scum hunting, it feels like the resources given by P. 5 are being fully used by them. Zoronos would get a similar read and Mathilde is Null with scum lead only due to her recent comments as presented by Aneninen.

All in all, I think the baiting was very mildly effective, as not much huge has come out of it. But I think it has succeeded us in getting us away from RVS muddle, so we can begin looking through the rubbish and get down to something incriminating or objective.

[TheLhix]

Is the scumslip his response to your scumclaim?

Hell if I know. It is likely due to my shenanigans of that kind, but I honestly dont see much going on but loads of crap having spilled over from it for the last page or so. Basically RC, Frozen, Jake, Me, Keyser all went insane for a moment from the look of it. My original motivation was as follows that i acknowledge a little bit upwards. I really dont think anything is objective or even hugely incriminating atm, the scumslip itself isnt anything major. The only reason I would consider a lynch in full would honestly be to progress the game and out suspicions, but we have no other suspicions yet. So, null? I'll unvote if anything else comes up

Ehhh I don't really like this response. It seems like you're backtracking.

My reason for asking you this is that calling keyser scum for reacting the way he did to your claim insinuates that you are scum as well, which is why I didn't understand how you thought he scumslipped.

I'm actually really suspect of Elyse being this quick to give me a townread given our last game.

What was our last game together? I haven't played in months so I'm not really up to date on meta and only have generalizations about what I remember from your play.

The keyser wagon is good with the added bonus of TheLhix scum if he flips scum. Still don't like Zulfy very much. His explanations don't add up to me.

How would I be backtracking if I am only confirming the idea that I really dont know much now, and my main goal was to get us out of the RVS for purposes of analyzing. The scum slip was an attempt to try and pull a reaction on a mainstage RVS candidate, while I admit it does rightfully put myself at risk, it accomplished its intended goal. My statement stands as far as everything I have said, including the shit-storm of P. 5 and all my reads and ideas

[Jake from State Farm]

All of my current reads are rather Null, I stated the very minor reason against Captain Planet, but wrote in detail roughly how I would only go through with it if nothing else presented itself besides the baited slip. Garmr Seems rather null, but with a town lean given his eh interest in the analysis and overall nothing objectively incriminating. Zulfy is null at the moment, I dont believe the hatewagon comments were anything more out of the ordinary than the shit of Page 5, I would say before taking any major steps we should try to bait out his own reads in full and observe his behaviors a bit longer, but he would be the only other minor issue as I have seen so far. Frozen is a town lean for me, given her activity in searching for analysis and scum hunting, it feels like the resources given by P. 5 are being fully used by them. Zoronos would get a similar read and Mathilde is Null with scum lead only due to her recent comments as presented by Aneninen.

All in all, I think the baiting was very mildly effective, as not much huge has come out of it. But I think it has succeeded us in getting us away from RVS muddle, so we can begin looking through the rubbish and get down to something incriminating or objective.

what about me? you didn't mention me? don't you love me anymore?

Spoiler:

[TheLhix]

All of my current reads are rather Null, I stated the very minor reason against Captain Planet, but wrote in detail roughly how I would only go through with it if nothing else presented itself besides the baited slip. Garmr Seems rather null, but with a town lean given his eh interest in the analysis and overall nothing objectively incriminating. Zulfy is null at the moment, I dont believe the hatewagon comments were anything more out of the ordinary than the shit of Page 5, I would say before taking any major steps we should try to bait out his own reads in full and observe his behaviors a bit longer, but he would be the only other minor issue as I have seen so far. Frozen is a town lean for me, given her activity in searching for analysis and scum hunting, it feels like the resources given by P. 5 are being fully used by them. Zoronos would get a similar read and Mathilde is Null with scum lead only due to her recent comments as presented by Aneninen.

All in all, I think the baiting was very mildly effective, as not much huge has come out of it. But I think it has succeeded us in getting us away from RVS muddle, so we can begin looking through the rubbish and get down to something incriminating or objective.

what about me? you didn't mention me? don't you love me anymore?

Spoiler:

Do you love me?

[Mathilda]

His play since that consecutive vote is not consistent with his excuse for getting us beyond RVS. He hasn't really been analysing what people say and looking for any tells, which he would if his initial excuse for two consecutive votes was genuine. And above all, stating an intent to hammer at this stage of the game when someone isn't even at L-1.

What did you think about what Lhinx wrote about KS scum slipping?
143 / 145

Could you explain what exactly the scumslip is please because I didn't pick up on it. Thanks.

[Elyse]

I asked you a yes or no question and you responded with a big long post that discredits your reads as weak. That reads as backtracking to me because you didn't want to take a hard stance.

[Jake from State Farm]

Do you love me?

my heart is broken so right now.. NO

[TheLhix]

I asked you a yes or no question and you responded with a big long post that discredits your reads as weak. That reads as backtracking to me because you didn't want to take a hard stance.

Please then, tell me where in that post I did not answer your question to the T. I made it detailed to give you and exact representation of my mind. Nor did I once backtrack and deny anything or any of my past actions. Tell me how it is not cohesive to all of my reads and motives.

[TheLhix]

I asked you a yes or no question and you responded with a big long post that discredits your reads as weak. That reads as backtracking to me because you didn't want to take a hard stance.

And on that note. With my motives being spoken plainly, why dont you want detail?

[Scorpious]

I'm pretty caught up I guess..

I'm open to questions.

Lhix and Angel ping me as scummy early on

getting town vibe from Elyse,JFSF, and Zoronos. Null on the rest..

[Zoronos]

Could you explain what exactly the scumslip is please because I didn't pick up on it. Thanks.

I don't know what it is. That's part of why I'm trying to get the players involved to talk about it.
I'd very much like Elyse to weigh in, since her questioning provoked the exchange.

[TheLhix]

I'm pretty caught up I guess..

I'm open to questions.

Lhix and Angel ping me as scummy early on

getting town vibe from Elyse,JFSF, and Zoronos. Null on the rest..

Could you give a read on Captain Planet and your overview of the various tactics used so far. Specifically the transition shitfest in P. 5, I would care to hear an analysis on it and what has come of it

[Mathilda]

Could you explain what exactly the scumslip is please because I didn't pick up on it. Thanks.

I don't know what it is. That's part of why I'm trying to get the players involved to talk about it.
I'd very much like Elyse to weigh in, since her questioning provoked the exchange.

Hmm, glad I'm not the only one then!

[Scorpious]

I feel Zulfly is also town

Could you imagine being the indian Kid? "WTF is heart? The white guy gets fire and I get something that nobody even knows what it does?"

[Yimmy]

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VOTECOUNT 1.04

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  TheLhix
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  Zulfy
  — Elyse, Frozen Angel, Mathilda
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  Mathilda
  — Aneninen
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  Frozen Angel
  — Keyser Söze, Zoronos, Zulfy
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  Keyser Söze
  — RadiantCowbells, TheLhix, InputPrimary, Jake from State Farm, Garmr
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  Jake from State Farm
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  Garmr
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  Scorpious
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  Elyse
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  InputPrimary
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  Zoronos
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  RadiantCowbells
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  Aneninen
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  — Scorpius
  
  With
  13

  alive
  , it takes
  7

  votes
  to lynch.

[Scorpious]

VOTE: TheLhix

Not voting Keyser as of now because 11 days..no need for L-1 right now.. still null on that slot anyway

[TheLhix]

Unvote:

[TheLhix]

VOTE: TheLhix

Not voting Keyser as of now because 11 days..no need for L-1 right now.. still null on that slot anyway

So you havent answered my question, nor have you given any extensive analysis.

[Scorpious]

VOTE: TheLhix

Not voting Keyser as of now because 11 days..no need for L-1 right now.. still null on that slot anyway

So you havent answered my question, nor have you given any extensive analysis.

Chill man,I'm at work,you asked me like 20 minutes ago..

[TheLhix]

VOTE: TheLhix

Not voting Keyser as of now because 11 days..no need for L-1 right now.. still null on that slot anyway

So you havent answered my question, nor have you given any extensive analysis.

Chill man,I'm at work,you asked me like 20 minutes ago..

Oh. My bad.

[Scorpious]

Could you give a read on Captain Planet and your overview of the various tactics used so far. Specifically the transition shitfest in P. 5, I would care to hear an analysis on it and what has come of it

Honestly,He seems to be in the same type of situation I was involved in during a game I can't talk about yet. Now,I know if I don't say in this post that I find him scummy,You will retort,But I don't yet. I'm null..

and honestly,not much has come of it. He hasn't said much since.

[Elyse]

I asked you a yes or no question and you responded with a big long post that discredits your reads as weak. That reads as backtracking to me because you didn't want to take a hard stance.

Please then, tell me where in that post I did not answer your question to the T. I made it detailed to give you and exact representation of my mind. Nor did I once backtrack and deny anything or any of my past actions. Tell me how it is not cohesive to all of my reads and motives.

You answered my question in a very roundabout, indirect way. Basically, I asked if the scumslip you were referring to was keyser's reaction to your scumclaim, and you said, to sum it up, "yes but it's pretty much a null tell" which makes no sense. A) scumslips are black and white B) for him to be scummy due to the scumslip, you would also have to be scum.

I asked you a yes or no question and you responded with a big long post that discredits your reads as weak. That reads as backtracking to me because you didn't want to take a hard stance.

And on that note. With my motives being spoken plainly, why dont you want detail?

Your detail was unhelpful. You shrouded your "yes" with a bunch of fluff that weakened your stance and makes it easier for you to abandon your read on keyser.

Could you explain what exactly the scumslip is please because I didn't pick up on it. Thanks.

I don't know what it is. That's part of why I'm trying to get the players involved to talk about it.
I'd very much like Elyse to weigh in, since her questioning provoked the exchange.

What I see the "scumslip" as is this post:

@TheLhix - how long have you been playing mafia for?

which is in reaction to TheLhix claiming scum with keyser.

If keyser is town, he knows that TheLhix is lying, either in a joking manner or a reaction test or something. It would make sense for him to brush it off because he knows it's not true and not worth engaging.

It reads more as keyser being TheLhix's scumbuddy and being like, "are you really that inexperienced that you would claim scum with me on day 1?" That's what RC meant and why I am townreading him because I read it the same way.

I'm not sure it's a scumslip but it's something to note if keyser or TheLhix ever flips.

That's also why I questioned TheLhix about the slip because if he's pushing keyser as scum for that, he would also have to be scum.