Open 612 - Bad Poets Society - Game Over - Town Win

[Ika Musume]

i'll be here in like two hours

[Ika Musume]

i was going to make a more in-depth post, but tbh, Taly's Errant stance mostly mirrors where i'm at with them. i'm seeing a lot of words, but no firm stances or any sort of strong push anywhere, and not much effort to really resolve it either (even if i'm viewing their two major analysis posts as this, i would have expected more follow-through from a town player which i didn't really see) which in this position i think is more indicative of scum - compare to duppin who hasn't been around much but had a definitive "maxwell and Persi are scum and i'd lynch either one"

the only thing that has me somewhat worried is that Persi has sat back and done fuck all when it's fairly obvious the lynch is either Troy or him, but i could easily enough see it as him attempting to WIFOM everyone (along the lines of "he didn't save his partner when he could have") or him just not knowing how to approach the situation in a way that wouldn't make him look bad, and troy has done fucking nothing to save his slot, so i don't really care

also, i skimmed that midnight sun game and it took me all of 2 seconds to notice kling's play was different there than it is here.

[Brunneis]

Fire/Hermit - I know you both want Pers lynched versus Troy, but we have to have all town vote to lynch somebody if we want to avoid the idea of "which scum bussed their buddy" next dayphase - which will create WIFOM - and we don't need anymore of that especially since we could be looking at game-long mylo from this point forward until we actually win; on the idea that we DON'T lynch the scum PR.

If I am pushing pers, that means this wagon is at least partially town lead. Right, or wrong?

Pers is the one I am voting and I don't see me changing my mind on this.

-Fire

Jebus, Fire, quit being such a watermeloann.

[Brunneis]

I liked how Taly is being a town leader right now tbh. I would be willing to disregard my scumread if she pushed a lynch on Persivul, since I still strongly think they are associated with each other.
I find it incredibly suspicious that the slot has avoided ALL contact with persivul. Even in that last post Taly is saying that she is 95% sure that Persivul is scum, but 5% of doubt is making her withhold. Well don't withhold, and vote persivul! That is where all my doubt is stemming from.

- St Constantine

Read that post again. Pretty sure that was me, not Taly.

If you two aren't going to play, fucking replace out.

Klingoncelt

[Brunneis]

Still here!

Please say something.

Klingoncelt

[Brunneis]

i was going to make a more in-depth post, but tbh, Taly's Errant stance mostly mirrors where i'm at with them. i'm seeing a lot of words, but no firm stances or any sort of strong push anywhere, and not much effort to really resolve it either (even if i'm viewing their two major analysis posts as this, i would have expected more follow-through from a town player which i didn't really see) which in this position i think is more indicative of scum - compare to duppin who hasn't been around much but had a definitive "maxwell and Persi are scum and i'd lynch either one"

the only thing that has me somewhat worried is that Persi has sat back and done fuck all when it's fairly obvious the lynch is either Troy or him, but i could easily enough see it as him attempting to WIFOM everyone (along the lines of "he didn't save his partner when he could have") or him just not knowing how to approach the situation in a way that wouldn't make him look bad, and troy has done fucking nothing to save his slot, so i don't really care

also, i skimmed that midnight sun game and it took me all of 2 seconds to notice kling's play was different there than it is here.

Ongoing games!! It's a different hydra there, the games is nightless, the kills are different, the roles are different, the players are different. I never play 2 games the same way. Ika should know that.

[Brunneis]

I'm good with Pers or Troy, but I very much prefer Troy.

[Brunneis]

Unofficial

vote count:

Persivul - The Fire Hermit

Troy McClure - Ranger, Brunneis

Not voting: duppin, Errantparabola, Ika Musume, Troy McClure, Persivul

5 to lynch

Deadline is 4 days, 5-ish hours

Klingoncelt

[Ika Musume]

i was referring to the completed one that fire brought up forever ago that i said i would check and never did

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=63134

[Ika Musume]

vote: Troy McClure

[Brunneis]

This is Taly here.

Tonight was a bit fun, but I was out way longer than expected... Long story short, I'm exhausted; and my allergies are killing me. So I'm not in my best head at the moment to make any decisions

I see Ika putting Troy to L-2 and I trust that - especially since nobody is jumping on that lynch immediately. Kling still rather wants a Troy lynch and I concur. I want to see Troy flip and maybe that'll give Pers incentive to do something

So I'm not moving the vote - which I know is kind of a bitch thing to do considering the basis of my previous posts but Kling and Ika (Pie) have spoken and I'm much more comfortable with my stance/vote being as it is.

I'll get a bit more in depth with everything and be in everybody's face tomorrow. Don't worry.

~Taly

[Errantparabola]

VOTE: Troy/vote]
I suppose there's no use in waiting for a catch up that's never gonna happen

ALLERGIES SUCK TALY I FEEL YOU SO HARD RIGHT NOW
DO YOU FEEL THAT? THAT IS ME FEELING YOU

[Errantparabola]

ah shit
VOTE: troy

[Brunneis]

Yeah they suck. Except for people like me - I have allergies all year long, the symptoms just depend on the season; and winter and spring is usually the worst.

But I'm about to go to bed anyway.

Before I do:

Please, someone - express intent to hammer before you do. Troy is at L-1.

~Taly

[Ika Musume]

not gonna lie, i saw that vote and freaked the fuck out cos i thought it was a quickhammer

i hate LYLO

[Ranger]

the only thing that has me somewhat worried is that Persi has sat back and done fuck all when it's fairly obvious the lynch is either Troy or him

This is why Troy is likely the roleblocker: because if a scum has to die, Persivul

wants

it to be him.

[Quaroath]

Vote Count 3.4

On and on, the poet’s recite
Everyone’s knickers - tight
Who shall in be my friends?
To meet their bitter end?

Troy McClure – (4) Ranger, Brunneis, Ika Musume, Errantparabola
Persivul – (1) The Fire Hermit,

Not Voting - (3) duppin, Troy McClure, Persivul

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-11-28 23:59:59)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Persivul]

VOTE: Troy

[Brunneis]

^^^ I'm pretty sure that's a scum hammer.

Let's hope it was a bus, too.

(Which is most likely.)

~Taly

[Persivul]

Please, someone - express intent to hammer before you do. Troy is at L-1.

~Taly

Why?

Intent serves to give the prospective lynchee a chance to claim or otherwise defend himself.

We've already claimed, and he has made it clear he doesn't intend to defend himself.

You're just saying things you think sound townie.

[Brunneis]

Please, someone - express intent to hammer before you do. Troy is at L-1.

~Taly

Why?

It's mylo. Everybody should at least have a word on the lynch before it goes through. Judging that Fire wasn't on the wagon, nobody is entirely sure on whos town and not, which ultimately doesn't help us next dayphase.

Your hammer vote was naked - which isn't helpful either.

Intent serves to give the prospective lynchee a chance to claim or otherwise defend himself.

Why do you have a set reasoning for this? Giving intent to hammer is useful in most circumstances for a variety of reasons.

We've already claimed, and he has made it clear he doesn't intend to defend himself.

And how would you know this for certain?

You're just saying things you think sound townie.

Interesting how I've been built up as a townread for most people here - and now I'm being told that I'm trying to sound townie. I'm not going to waste my time doing nothing if I know I could do something.

I haven't heard this argument since D1.

~Taly

[Ika Musume]

if we just lost, i don't give a shit. this game had too much ridiculous crap that it wasn't worth dealing with a hypothetical player who doesn't bother playing the fucking game

[Ika Musume]

if troy is scum, and i'm not alive tomorrow, i think lynching Persi -> Errant is most likely to win. i feel pretty sure about Persi, but don't take Errant for granted (although i will say if i'm right on the first 2 interactions point towards Errant as the last scum).

[Ranger]

Well, I know I'm town, so the only way that we could have lost is if either Brunneis is scum, or duppin is scum and only two scum needed to be on the lynch.
I don't see either of those as being true. (Especially not the second.) So, yeah, Troy is scum.

Errant and Persivul bussed.
Sadly, that probably means I was wrong about Troy being the roleblocker. :(

[Brunneis]

Errant and Persivul's votes were very close together. I could believe they were both bussing.

If that's the case, Troy may not be the RB... but Errant might be. But even then, I'm more sure of Persivul being scum than Errant, so I don't know how valid that is.

Let's just see this flip.... Damnit, the suspense is killing me.

~Taly