In post 497, Sharky5x wrote:@lilith Random wants it to come off as bored townie that wants the day to end (hence 489).
Sounds like you think Random isn't town and wants to seem town.
Notice how I said "whether this is true or not..", which you cropped off my post to distort it a little bit. He wants it to come off that way, as townie or scum. I was explaining why he voted Diego so quickly without reason.
You using the words "wants to come off as (bored) town" seems like you're saying you think he isn't actually bored town. The rest of your sentence is irrelevant wishywashyness.
In post 477, A Simple Plan wrote:Overall Thought: ProbScum. I can see Random/MOHIS as a team. Likely not partnered with itlepip, but possible. @MOHIS: Can we get more conclusive reads on people other than Diamond/an explanation why the reads are so opposite on him?
Okay, I can see your case on me. Its actually decent. But random? I mean, no. That doesn't make sense.
How about everyone stops prod-dodging and actually plays the game.
Is this how all open setups are? Just people lurking and giving shitty reads and prod dodging? If so, I'll just go back to playing only theme games...
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
Oh my god I've started something -m-
I meant that it distorted the post, not that you distorted it on purpose. I disagree with "the rest of your sentence is irrelevant wishywashiness", whether its wishywashy or not, it still means I think it could be either way.
Random seems a bit oppurtunistic there.. why is lilith scum if Diego is scum?
I thought random's post was in this case just a reaction test, that can't be a serious scum read I hope. Associations this early in the game with two scum factions is kinda ridiculous, and that claim was stupid as well. Apricity, if you are going to show up, can you address the big points instead of trying to get Not to talk.
Don't you agree that it was a ridiculously obvious reaction test?
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
I agree that reaction tests in themselves aren't scummy. But when one is made as poorly as those both were, then I feel like it's just scum trying to make one so that they can seem pro-town and get towncred.
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
In post 518, DiamondSentinel wrote:I agree that reaction tests in themselves aren't scummy. But when one is made as poorly as those both were, then I feel like it's just scum trying to make one so that they can seem pro-town and get towncred.
Reaction tests are generally seen as poor scumhunting and are scummy. I have never heard of reaction tests being a big town read unless you get a good result off of them.
Re 510: Okay, I guess the question is, are you posting elsewhere? And if so, why have you decided to neglect this game in particular?
Random
Explain 504 for me please.
Sharky
Re 485: Do you have anything that's not sheeping me?
Itle
I'm satisfied with the response I got in 488 regarding the vote on Diamond. I still disagree with this push on Sharky, and 350 and subsequent response to you in 383 are fairly town-driven posts. I disagree with the Diamond wagon's quickness, too.
Spoiler: N_M ISO
In post 185, Not_Mafia wrote:Diamond is just an easy target, that wagon is boring
I agree with the thought of Diamond being an easy target at the time of the post, and I feel good about NM not jumping on it. However, simply labeling it as "boring" rather than "bad" concerns me slightly.
In post 386, Randomnamechange wrote:I'm not posting much because my posts are concise and to the point.
Diamond is probs getting night killed at some point. Just saying.
Why? Are you planning to kill him?
I like the question toward Random. Glad I'm not the only one interested in seeing where that goes.
Why Diego? I see your reasoning from RVS, but do you have more against him than that, or is that all that push is good for?
N_M might be town, but I'm far from certain. Definitely not in my lynch pool today. I do want to take a look at Diego when I get more time though.
P-Edit: @Itlepip: I tend to agree with you that they aren't something to be town-read for, but I wouldn't exactly call a well-executed one poor scum hunting. Why do you think they're necessarily scummy?
All I meant is that I have never seen a reaction test be a way that scum try to prove that they are town. It is not impressive scumhunting and Random hasn't tried to take credit from it, so I don't understand why diamond thinks its scummy.
In post 521, itlepip wrote:All I meant is that I have never seen a reaction test be a way that scum try to prove that they are town. It is not impressive scumhunting and Random hasn't tried to take credit from it, so I don't understand why diamond thinks its scummy.
Still disagree about the Sharky read.
Then allow me to cite my inexperience as the cause. Where I originally play, reaction tests are often used by town to find if someone is scum. That's why I thought it was to get towncred.
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
Mainly for a reaction, however the timing of the push on me (not the push itself) was suspicious. It seems like she was worried her buddy was going to be flash wgonned and tried to set up a counter. I overexaggerated the extent of the sxumminess though.
