Mini 1739a: Netherspite's SORM II [Game Over]

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:42 am

In post 1847, Spiffeh wrote:Do I really have to explain why lynching shos is better again?

no I think I pretty much covered it. you must be vig target

Titus · Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:42 am

Big flaw, if RC is scum that fucks it

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:42 am

TITUS

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:42 am

Why you think I'm not confirmed?!!!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:43 am

Vigging me is as just bad as vigging you!

Vedith · Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:44 am

I agree FA is confirmed...
It's not possible imo for her and Bella to be scum (the only way that she could be lying)...
As we know Bella is 100% not a cultist.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:45 am

I give up

do whatever you want ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:45 am

VOTE: Shos

as its right thing to do

Vedith · Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:46 am

I want you to join my thread! I'm all alone with Nether as it stands!
Although he is enjoyable company.

Spiffeh · Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:46 am

Titus keep ignoring me pls

Aneninen · Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:49 am

Reading...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:50 am

In post 1853, Frozen Angel wrote:Why you think I'm not confirmed?!!!

there is one way you can assume I'm not confirmed.
if vedith is lieing
and bella is lieing
and I'm lieing

so you should assume both Spiffeh and RC are town (because of the space) which is not fuking possible.

happy now? I'm a Confirmed town citizen. Bella saw my last card because she is Auditor.

so I said whats right and what should be done. I need to go away ...

Vedith · Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:57 am

Regardless, Ika doesn't shoot FA.

shos · Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:59 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:03 am

and why we shod lynch shos not spiffeh and leave the second to vig

we must try to hunt mass murderer in day. which is probably shos. if shos is MM/GF Ika was surly a vig in beginning. Ika must go on the probable cultist in night. if he shoot the right person he can't cult anyone. and he will be confirmed tomorrow no matter what.

I can confirm vedith tomorrow and game will be solved.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:04 am

now I need to walk away ...

Titus · Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:13 am

FA can be anything if Bella is lying auditor.

Vedith · Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:15 am

But for both to go along with that when you can't honestly think that they have a thread...
I don't see it, and it's stupid to put focus there.

Aneninen · Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:17 am

So. I'm trying to deatil it.
If RC is telling the truth, Spiffeh must be Cult. In this case he needs to be lynched and we should find out whom he Cult-ed (if any).
If RC's lying, there's no Cult anymore, so we'll have more time for sorting out everything in this case.

Therefore, we must assume that RC's telling the truth, because we need to expect the worse version.

(This part is true only if I'm not lying, of course. And I can't prove it.)

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As for FrozenAngel's versions.
I'm too tired to check whether they're correct, but here are the players who could be any scums:

Shos – 5 cases
Ika – 4 cases
Spiffeh – 3 cases
Aneninen – 3 cases
RadiantCowbells – 1 case

Also, we shouldn't ignore the possibility that Angel's lying. Eg. what if Spiffeh is cult and he Cult-ed Angel?

Can't be, because of Bella's claim. Unless Bella's lying... but in that case someone would have counterclaimed FA's Citizen claim by now.

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In post 1810, Frozen Angel wrote:we lynch spiffeh today or vig him at night so he can't think about culting people

Most probably he already Cult-ed someone last Night...

In post 1825, Frozen Angel wrote:well people we have a very great problem here. we can't find culted people by investigating them. thats why we must save vedith (at least tonight - for having me as an insurance) to clear the culted spots.
Annen must check FB or RC

Ika, FB or RC, or randomize those three?

Mod: can a recruited Cult recruit others? If so, do the recruits give a result for an investigatior like "Conspiracy, Soliciting"

(Also, will a recruited player keep their PRs?)

In post 1828, Titus wrote:Anen targets Random, if legal. If not, Shos to resolve which immune he is.

Or Shos?

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Also, everyone above me on Angel's list is attacked by some Night Action, but nothing happens to me. So, unless something unexpected happens, I'm the Day3 lynch. Because
(1) There's NO proof that I'm telling the truth
(2) I have no protection against getting Cult-ed and I could easily get to Endgame if somehow my Night Action confirms me.
I'm a double threat.

Titus · Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:20 am

Recruited players close PRs but can recruit others.

If FA was GF or MM, she claims citizen. Bella confirms. I don't think it's likely but FA is not confirmed.

Titus · Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:21 am

@Anen, there's no point in checking ika if we give him the right vig target.

Titus · Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:23 am

I should probably only worry about that if Bella isn't a stump.

Vedith · Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:24 am

In post 1868, Aneninen wrote:If RC is telling the truth, Spiffeh must be Cult. In this case he needs to be lynched and we should find out whom he Cult-ed (if any).

Have we tried asking Spiffeh?

Vedith · Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:26 am

In post 1869, Titus wrote:Recruited players close PRs but can recruit others.

That's a stupid role to ever have been made imo.
It should be the original Cultist that can do this...

Aneninen · Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:29 am

FA can be lying only if Bella targetted a dead player (of if she didn't target anyone). That's not too likely. In all other cases someone would have Conterclaimed FA.

We should summarize the Night Actions we plan. BUT, we should also keep that in mind that EVERY single anti-town faction is working on finding the holes in our plans. Some of them are also trying to "detour" our plans in the wrong way. (Yes, this could be me too!)