Blitz 11: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game over!)
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3dicerolling Mafia Scum
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Also, since we have a lot of duplicates this game, I feel like it's best to spell it out:
There is a maximum of one scum in {Hinduragi, Jeanne}. (Hinduragi is obviously town; I still think Jeanne is scum.)
There is a maximum of one scum in {Kop, tn5421}. (Kop's left a good initial impression. tn not so much, though I doubt the game's so easy as to be Persivul/Jeanne/tn.)
There is a maximum of one scum in {3dice, EspeciallyTheLies}. (I think both are town.)
There is a maximum of one scum in {ika, Pipe Organist, hiplop}. (ika is pretty town. Pipe Organist isn't solidly town, but early indicators do point that way. If there's scum here, it would probably be hiplop.)
There is a maximum of one scum in {Ranger, davesaz, Persivul}. (I'm town, dave looks decently town, and Persivul really looks like scum.)
Keep this in mind at all times.
It might also be worth looking into what numbers were high in previous drafts, if my theory about Persivul being scum is correct--he picked 8, but there must have been other numbers that got high. If people picked those numbers, they might be potential scumbuddies.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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In post 200, 3dicerolling wrote:I see what ranger is saying. Scum had chat during all phases, which means they knew what each other would pick, and wouldn't pick the same number.
Or they did pick duplicates, with the plan of pointing out that scum wouldn't do so.
Interesting that ranger made that false argument, and also interesting that you jumped in to help out.-
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Because scumbuddies choosing the same number are guaranteeing that they both take a nosedive on the order of roles, handing two town playersPersivul wrote:How so?at minimuma higher order on the draft, therefore, a higher chance of drawing a role. It is basically them guaranteeing they become goons and town becomes roles, which is...very obviously, not a pro-scum move, not even for wifom purposes. (Roles trump play, here.)
As 3dice said, scum having chat means they could coordinate which numbers to choose, thus, would not accidentally duplicate.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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More evidence for why I voted Persivul, btw:
If Persivul were town, he wouldn't care about there being a wagon on ika.Persivul wrote:Also can't do my traditional ika policy vote since he already has two.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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In post 203, Persivul wrote:In post 200, 3dicerolling wrote:I see what ranger is saying. Scum had chat during all phases, which means they knew what each other would pick, and wouldn't pick the same number.
Or they did pick duplicates, with the plan of pointing out that scum wouldn't do so.
Interesting that ranger made that false argument, and also interesting that you jumped in to help out.
Sure, I'm in no way saying scum couldn't have picked duplicates, but I do think scum would more likely want PRs over town cred.
Interesting that your definition of "jumping out to help" is explaining something I also considered reasonably viable.-
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In post 207, Ranger wrote:More evidence for why I voted Persivul, btw:
If Persivul were town, he wouldn't care about there being a wagon on ika.Persivul wrote:Also can't do my traditional ika policy vote since he already has two.
Why is that? Scum stands to benefit by an early wagon taking off, as it might stick.
I'm liking my scum team better all the time.
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This is of course highly speculative without a flip, but if Ranger's bit about only 1 scum in duplicates was a scum slip, then:
Scenario 1 - 3dice and ETL chose 13s for cover, Ranger chose 8 hoping to be alone with it and get a decent PR - in my research I found 3 games of this setup, and 8 was top 3 in each of them IIRC
Scenario 2 - Ranger and davesaz chose 8s for cover, 3diceorETL chose 13 thinking it was a safe solo number-
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In post 191, Pipe Organist wrote:Spoiler: .
Pages 1-3 hurt. Really, it was painfull.
In post 18, Hinduragi wrote:Alignment is independent of role here
^^This, so much. Lets not dothisarguementeverygame.
In post 22, Ümläüt wrote:In post 16, Persivul wrote:Double-edged sword though...top drafters will have targets on their backs. Making the draft order public makes it fascinating...tons of wifom possibilities.
Yeah, I was kind of bummed the draft order was public. Wondered if I should just take something lame so it wouldn't matter if I got shot N1. Not saying whether I did or not.
eww
Why does this bother everyone so much? On page 1 there was literally nothing else to talk about yet, and by now the topic would be over if people didn't keep bringing it up to point out how gross it is.
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Misc. thoughts since I'm too lazy to write a carefully fleshed-out post:
I don't know if I agree with 3d about Persivul but I do think 3d is thinking like a townie. I don't agree because Jeanne is the one who kept bringing up her role and Persivul is just responding to that.
Was about to write that I don't see why everyone is townreading Hinduragi because I didn't think he looked that town, then I ISOed him and started townreading him as well. Posts a lot, most posts are at least somewhat useful, gives sane reasons for his reads. I think what made me uncomfortable is the general practice of telling people what to talk about but I don't know if this is actually alignment-indicative or just annoying.
Pedit: Okay,eleventwelvethirteen posts since I started writing this. I'm just going to post and then read them.-
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In post 214, Jeanne11 wrote:My bad, it's L-2.
Yep, and hinduragi and hiplop are the only decent votes on that wagon.-
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